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Frippertronics[edit]

No mention of Frippertronics or of the (acknowledged) debt owed by Brian Eno to the tape delay system Riley used extensively on this work? I'll look for cites. -MaxFlux (talk) 02:11, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wasn't Rainbow recorded a few years before Fripp developed Frippertronics? Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 02:25, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

-MaxFlux (talk) 00:10, 2 November 2013 (UTC) I could have said it more clearly, I think. My understanding is that Fripp learned the system from Eno, who I believe has credited Riley explicitly. I've seen some references to Pauline Oliveros using a similar tape delay construction, as well. Looking into it as I et the time.[reply]

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Eight Track Recording[edit]

This was not the first eight track recording by CBS. These machines were first built by Ampex in the 1950s used then by Les Paul. Columbia/CBS had one of these in their Los Angeles studio in the early 1960s. The Byrds recorded Mr Tambourine Man and other songs on the same type of machine in 1964.24.143.103.204 (talk) 08:14, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think your edit is mostly fine, because a first recording is also an early recording, but the statement that it was the first recording was sourced to an interview with Terry Riley himself. Of course he could be wrong or mis-remembering, so it would be interesting if you have another source claiming otherwise. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 22:23, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update: the recording date of The Byrds' Mr Tambourine Man was January 20, 1965 according to Wikipedia. Terry Riley is a musician not a recording engineer. He could have been one of the first to use 8-track at a Columbia Studio in New York. But he is definitely not among the first at Columbia or the first in New York. Atlantic Records used one of the Ampex 8-track machines in New York City in the late 1950s. One example is the album Giant Steps by John Coltrane from 1958. We know for a fact that Mr Tambourine man was recorded on 8-track in Los Angeles because the song was first mixed for stereo in the 1980s using the 8-track master. Until that time the song was only available in mono or fake "rechanelled" stereo. There are at least 2 different stereo mixes of the song from the 1980s and the whole Mr Tambourine man album was also remixed from 8-track in the 80s for the CD release. Anyone who has read about the liner notes to The Byrds recordings knows this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.143.103.204 (talk) 05:11, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here's an even better example of why Terry Riley is wrong. The first album by Blood Sweat and Tears was recorded on 8-tracks at Columbia Studios in NYC in November and December 1967. It was released in February 1968, before the Terry Riley album was released sometime in 1969. The BST album was remixed from the 8-track tapes by Al Kooper for surround sound and re-issued in the SACD format in 2014. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.143.103.204 (talk) 18:31, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]