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The Facilities worker they took hostage[edit]
https://www.columbiaspectator.com/news/2024/04/30/dozens-occupy-hamilton-hall-as-pro-palestinian-protests-spread-across-campus/ https://www.foxnews.com/us/columbia-university-facilities-worker-speaks-terror-takeover-held-hostage
"A Facilities worker who was in the building exited the building at around 12:40 a.m., after shouting at the protesters occupying the Hamilton lobby to let him leave. As he left Hamilton, he yelled at the crowd, “They held me hostage.” 79.176.106.171 (talk) 18:12, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fox News is unreliable and the Columbia Spectator page is just buffering for me - maybe their servers have been swamped with traffic, so hard to assess. If true, it would echo 1968, when the dean was held captive. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- there are picture of them attacking the Facilities worker in the article.... 79.176.106.171 (talk) 10:14, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- it should be noted, they swamped building for occupation at 12:30 AM, as per columbia spectator article.
- That means they kidnapped the worker for 10 minutes. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 18:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- facilities member and students section in the article https://bwog.com/2024/04/live-updates-gaza-solidarity-encampment-day-13/ 128.59.178.128 (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- So they claimed to be taken hostage, and then other people who were studying or otherwise occupied in the building just left absolutely normally 20 minutes later? I'm not sure it's possible to buy into the level of claimed duress here. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:58, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- The facilities person was certainly under duress, but as for the students, they were a part of one of the school's newspapers according to students around campus. 209.2.225.92 (talk) 20:01, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- So they claimed to be taken hostage, and then other people who were studying or otherwise occupied in the building just left absolutely normally 20 minutes later? I'm not sure it's possible to buy into the level of claimed duress here. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:58, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- "they kidnapped the worker for 10 minutes"
- well, even kidnaping for 10 minutes is an illegal activity.
- "your right ends where the right of others begin"
- what they have done called Imprisonment, you should look it up... 79.176.106.171 (talk) 10:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- lol agreed.
- restaurant kidnapped me when they kept me waiting for ten minutes for food and wouldnt let me leave. sure they said i had to pay, but they didnt have the food out yet! 2600:6C5A:587F:4532:6555:9571:24F9:D58D (talk) 03:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- where the restaurant physically stopped you from leaving?
- there are picture of the protests and the facility member fighting..... 79.176.174.2 (talk) 10:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- When there's a guilty verdict in a criminal trial, wikipedia can call it kidnapping. Otherwise, it's a WP:BLP violation. Kire1975 (talk) 21:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- here is his testimony regarding the incident
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EipsEgdAfA8 79.176.174.2 (talk) 22:42, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- See also WP:INTERVIEWS, WP:RSEDITORIAL, WP:NOROPED, WP:NEWSOPED and Bari_Weiss#Political_views. Kire1975 (talk) 22:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- see also:WP:NPOV,WP:ENEMY
- I didn't understand why you linked Bari Weiss political views, he his not any of the writers of the articles I have linked.
- Francesca Block interview Mario Torres, aka The Facilities worker in the free press
- AMIRA MCKEE, SARAH HUDDLESTON, ESHA KARAM, SHEA VANCE, MANUELA SILVA, AND CLAIRE CLEARY in columbia spectator article.
- Lawrence Richard in the fox news article 79.176.174.2 (talk) 13:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- See also WP:INTERVIEWS, WP:RSEDITORIAL, WP:NOROPED, WP:NEWSOPED and Bari_Weiss#Political_views. Kire1975 (talk) 22:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- When there's a guilty verdict in a criminal trial, wikipedia can call it kidnapping. Otherwise, it's a WP:BLP violation. Kire1975 (talk) 21:38, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
- facilities member and students section in the article https://bwog.com/2024/04/live-updates-gaza-solidarity-encampment-day-13/ 128.59.178.128 (talk) 18:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- See WP:BLPREMOVE, WP:NOR and WP:SOAPBOX. Kire1975 (talk) 21:37, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2024[edit]
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See above for my previous post on May 3rd about: Infobox "Parties" and New York Hostage and Missing Families Forum. [1] I am not extended confirmed and would like to request the following edit/change: In the Infobox "Parties" section, please move New York Hostage and Missing Families Forum from the subsection titled "Pro-Israel counterprotesters" to a new subsection titled "Other Groups". Thank you. Serenity9096 (talk) 23:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 May 2024[edit]
Section on the responses by Shafik and Rosenbury regarding the protests. Graduation Commencement was cancelled due to "security concerns" Text to add: On Monday, May 6, Columbia announced that its university-wide commencement would be canceled following weeks of protests and the shutdown of the University campus. The student response led to a creation of a change.org petition, garnering over 1800 signatures.
Source: https://bwog.com/2024/05/columbia-university-announces-main-commencement-is-canceled-class-days-to-move-off-campus/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/columbia-university-cancels-commencement-rcna150778
Columbia And Barnard Alumni are boycotting reunions and funding.
Text to add: Some Columbia and Barnard alumni have formed a new committee to boycott the University’s scheduled May 31 and June 1 reunions. In place of the reunions, there will be an alternate event that sends funds from the ticket sales to organizations providing aid in Palestine. Source: https://bwog.com/2024/05/columbia-and-barnard-alumni-announce-a-boycott-of-university-reunions-and-plans-to-send-funds-from-alternative-events-to-aid-in-palestine/
President Rosenbury Response to Second Arrests: Text to add: President Rosenbury emailed the Barnard community on May 2, acknowledging the added stress on campus and stating Barnard is "gathering information about the students involved." Source: https://bwog.com/2024/05/barnard-president-laura-rosenbury-sent-an-email-stating-she-is-aware-of-the-added-stress-caused-by-events-on-columbias-campus/
President Shafik Response to Second Arrests: On May 1, President Shafik emailed the Columbia community. She thanked the NYPD for their professionalism and hoped that Columbia will heal together. https://bwog.com/2024/05/president-shafik-thanks-nypd-for-professionalism-hoping-columbia-will-heal-together/ 209.2.231.63 (talk) 23:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
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