[WikiEN-l] Re: WikiEN-l digest, Vol 1 #123 - 15 msgs

Fri Feb 7 21:14:13 UTC 2003

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 14:14, Jesse Alter wrote:
> Apparently, the issue with Lir is a bit deeper than I thought, and I do 
> side with some of the people offended by her--some of the comments were 
> sharp and a bit 'unladylike' (for the record, I think men and women 
> should both behave 'ladylike' in polite company). But one of the things 
> that really got me was where Zoe said she would leave if Lir was 
> unbanned and 'continued his usual obnoxiousness'. That's not cool. Now 
> you're adding some more emotion to the admin's decisions. Now they must 
> worry if it is worthwhile to add Lir if they'd be losing you, and that's 
> really unfair. The decision should be made based on whether the admins 
> feel it would help Wikipedia, overall.
> 
Just so you know, the only admin (in this sense) is Jimbo. He'll take
other people's opinions under advisement, but there isn't a group of
admins making a decision on whether Lir/Adam/Bridget/Vera Cruz should be
allowed to participate in Wikipedia.

I don't think it was unreasonable for Zoe to say that she'd leave if Lir
was unbanned. I don't think she's lying. Weighing the impact of Lir on
the rest of the community's participation is exactly the task that must
be done when considering him.

--tc