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April 28

Lewis Campbell (classicist)

Please repair reference number 7 - it is all in red. I cannot do this. Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 02:02, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: You are missing the journal parameter, which the error message says is required for {{Cite Journal}}. If you add journal=Journal of Education to the citation it should fix it. RudolfRed (talk) 02:10, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Please can you fix it - I tried but got it wrong. Also, can you move the file photo of the church interior to the right hand side of the article/page - it is where it should be I think. Thank you and sorry Srbernadette (talk) 04:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: The Help Desk is for helping editors learn how to use Wikipedia, not to perpetually clean up your errors. Please stop editing articles until you are able to fix your errors. You have been given instructions many times. Use your sandbox to practice RudolfRed (talk) 19:57, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Andrew Bloxam

Reference number 6 is in the "red". I cannot fix it. please assist if you can. Thank you Srbernadette (talk) 06:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Srbernadette, reference number 6 is provided to back up the following: In 1866, his daughter Jane Dorothea Bloxam (died 1921) married Sir Henry Hanson Berney, 9th Bart. (died 1907). Sir Henry and Lady Berney's grandson was cricketer Cecil Middleton, son of Henry Middleton who, in April 1900, reportedly witnessed at Filey Brigg the drowning of his first cousin Margaret Middleton. Margaret's sister Gertrude and their cousin Henry Middleton were both students at Oxford University, Bloxham's alma mater. How does its inclusion help our understanding of the ostensible subject of the article, a man who died in 1878? ¶ However, I think you're asking about reference number 5. An IP whose interests and written style resemble yours already asked, and I already responded. -- Hoary (talk) 12:28, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Srbernadette, it might be helpful to you if you were to read the essay Wikipedia:Coatrack articles. Bright blessings! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.144.58 (talk) 16:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Обновление страницы в WIKI 2

После внесения дополнений на страницу в Википедии, обновления в WIKI 2 не происходит. Что делать? Сергей Александрович Ермаков (talk) 09:40, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Updating a page in WIKI 2 After making additions to a Wikipedia page, there is no update in WIKI 2. What to do? (via Google translate)

Сергей Александрович Ермаков this is a page for questions in English about English Wikipedia. If WIKI 2 copies English Wikipedia, you could try asking them about your edits. TSventon (talk) 09:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Editing a page

I'm not an editor, but with the help of someone who is one I can add to one of your pages.

To your page, "List of fugitives from justice who disappeared", you could add Lester Eubanks, who disappeared while on temporary prison furlough from a shopping mall in 1973, and was never recaptured. Wikipedia has an article on him.

• List of fugitives from justice who disappeared
• Lester Eubanks

Joseph N. Stricker 108.78.29.23 (talk) 16:01, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Done! Joyous! Noise! 16:47, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism help request

I have noticed some vandalism at Yiddish. Namely, a user named CheezDeez appears to have linked their profile in large font on multiple spots on the page. I attempted to fix the vandalism myself, but I could not find the vandalism via the edit window or the view history window. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you very much! --Reported via Help:Simple guide to vandalism cleanup--> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18C:9080:F570:146:DF2:EC63:F453 (talk) 17:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, IP user. Thank you for bringing this to our attention, and trying to fix it. When vandalism apperas like that at multiple points in an article, it is usually an edit to a template that is used in the article, so it will not show up in the article's history or in an edit.

Whatever it was, it now appears to have been fixed. ColinFine (talk) 18:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

In fact, there's an item on the WP:Teahouse#CheezDeez that explains what happened. ColinFine (talk) 19:05, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

English race. English DNA

Hello.A little while ago I was looking at the English race and English DNA. I looked again today and couldn't seem to find the items I previously viewed. Have they been removed? Thank you Jimmythecable (talk) 19:11, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

As far as I can tell no such pages ever existed. Maybe you were on a different website like Conservapedia which might host such nonsense. Simonm223 (talk) 19:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Keep your hair on chap Jimmythecable (talk) 11:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@Jimmythecable: Closest I can find is English_(ethnic_group) RudolfRed (talk) 20:14, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks Jimmythecable (talk) 11:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

How to filter my watchlist to not include redirects

I would like to view a list of all articles I'm watching, excluding redirects. On my Special:Watchlist, I can view my edit watchlist page, and the redirects are in italics, but there is no way to remove them from being displayed so I can see the list of actual articles I am watching. Any way to do this? BhamBoi (talk) 22:21, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Issues with TeaHouse

Someone ate the teahouse? EdenBAnn (talk) 23:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, EdenBAnn. The vandalism has been reverted and I blocked the vandal. Cullen328 (talk) 23:15, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Just Noticed!@Cullen328 EdenBAnn (talk) 23:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

April 29

Vandalism help request from 2001:558:6040:3C:D805:3BB0:6BDB:ECE9

I have noticed some vandalism at Megalodon. Namely, the cladogram under the section 'Evolution' has had species deleted and replaced with large-scale links to a locked sockpuppet account. I am having trouble finding a record of this text being inserted, though it appeared with the last two edits. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, 2001:558:6040:3C:D805:3BB0:6BDB:ECE9 (talk) 00:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

I suspect that this is vandalism of a template used in the article rather than vandalism of the article itself. I suggest that you bring this matter to the Village pump/Technical where editors with that type of skill tend to congregate. Cullen328 (talk) 00:17, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Can confirm a template used in that cladogram was vandalised. It was reverted quickly(diff), but these changes can get cache'd for a while if no one purges the affected article.

– 2804:F14:80C8:4701:F4E7:1EC8:CF9F:1541 (talk) 02:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Newspapers.com working?

I went to edit today, and my newspapers.com free account is inaccessible. Is this resource being a known issue for others too? Any idea when this will be fixed and accessible again? SportsGuy789 (talk) 01:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@SportsGuy789: Probably best asked at meta:Talk:The Wikipedia Library. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Clearing cookies did the trick. SportsGuy789 (talk) 03:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Lupton family

 Courtesy link: Lupton family

In the Hugh Lupton section, I am trying to put a link onto the name Geoffrey Charles Martineau Lupton， who has his own page in the "Chinese Wikipedia" section! Please do the link - I cannot get it right. Thanks - here is the link (Chinese) to Geoffrey Lupton: zh:陆端

Thanks 115.70.23.77 (talk) 04:36, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done. "Geoffrey Charles Martineau Lupton" is still a red link to show that English Wikipedia has no article about them, but now, there's a blue link next to it that says "[zh]" that links to Geoffrey's Chinese Wikipedia article. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 05:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Can you please get rid of the red writing on the name. Geoffrey Charles Martineau Lupton in the "Hugh Lupton" section of this page. It is good to have the link to the Chinese wikipedia page - but the red writing is not good. Thank-you 115.70.23.77 (talk) 05:30, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I was the person who added the Chinese Wikipedia link. I hope you reconsider your position. The link being red lets readers know that English Wikipedia does not have an article on Geoffrey, and the blue link next to the red link lets them know that Chinese Wikipedia has an article on Geoffrey. Without the red link, readers would normally expect to read an English article about Geoffrey, and they would be confused when it shows them a Chinese article. LightNightLights (talk • contribs) 05:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

No; see WP:REDLINK. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 07:51, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

The red writing is how it should be done in this case, Template:Interlanguage link is the way to go. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Complex copyright issue

Over a decade ago, a user rewrote substantial portions of an article as part of a push to bring it to GA status (which it still holds). Unfortunately it appears that that rewrite involved copying or close paraphrasing apparently copyrighted materials from multiple sources; there are also some references that editor used that are no longer available so I can't verify whether they were copied from or not. Fast forward to today, and a few thousand edits later this article contains a mix of content that's novel, content that's still largely identical to the sources, and a lot of content that's a derivative to some extent of that old problematic rewrite. What's the best way of addressing this? Nikkimaria (talk) 04:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

The best that I can suggest is rewriting/paraphrasing the parts you are fairly sure are still close to being copies of the copyrighted material. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.144.58 (talk) 05:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

If it's part of a wider issue, consider posting at WP:CCI. For the specific article, it sounds like it's necessary to disentangle the problematic content from later additions. How complex that is will depend on what the later edits were. I wouldn't consider mild copyediting to change much, but content by other users adding new sources and text should hopefully be easy enough to distinguish. CMD (talk) 06:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi CMD, I've confirmed similarly problematic edits by the same editor at a different article, so will plan to open a CCI. As for the one mentioned here... these additions affected multiple sections (following the instructions at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems#Suspected_or_complicated_infringement would template out most of the article) and there have been thousands of edits since then, so disentangling will definitely not be straightforward. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Fixing citation overkill

I've found a few articles with weird citations where whoever added them seemed to have just searched Google Books for random phrases in the article, not read the results, and pasted them in as citations. This was not noticed by other editors, so they removed the most obviously problematic parts and continued editing the article normally. Here's an example: Special:Diff/1214145527. You can even see the search terms in the URLs.

Because it would take hours to go through all dozen or more citations in edits like this, I have assumed that it's fine to just revert the whole edit. I usually either do a big revert with Twinkle, edit the old revision, or go through the current revision and manually remove every citation added in the diff. All three ways are very time consuming because I have to make sure intervening good edits stay in or are re-added after reverting. Is there a better way to revert big problematic edits when Undo is not available? HansVonStuttgart (talk) 08:09, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

You can load the last revision before the edits, copy the content, and paste it into the current revision, and then account for later changes to the text. However, this risks errors on your part: if you overlook someone else's later changes, you'll revert them. My suggestion is simply to delete the overkill manually, with a link to this Help Desk post as an explanation. Nyttend (talk) 21:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

mistake in the deletion of the Melinda Looi page

Hello, It appears there may have been a mistake in the deletion of the Melinda Looi page on Wikipedia. We believe there is valuable information about Melinda Looi that should be available to readers. We would appreciate guidance on how we can work together to retrieve and restore the page. We are open to collaborating with Wikipedia editors to ensure the article meets all necessary guidelines and standards. Thank you for your assistance. Kunal5651 (talk) 09:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Kunal5651 Who is "we"? Accounts are strictly single person use and may not be shared. Are you associated with this person?

Melinda Looi was deleted per the result of this deletion discussion. Wikipedia is not for merely providing information. 331dot (talk) 09:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I'm part of Melinda Looi's team, serving as her business development manager. Melinda and I are currently addressing the deletion of her Wikipedia page. Could you kindly guide us through the steps to restore and update the page in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines, please? Kunal5651 (talk) 01:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Kunal5651, the next thing that you must do, with your very next edit, is to make the Paid contributions disclosure. This is mandatory and non-negotiable. Please be aware that promotional activity is forbidden on Wikipedia. Read and study Conflict of interest and Your first article. Cullen328 (talk) 02:06, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi there, thank you for your time and clarification. I'm not an editor; I was just asked to find out what is wrong with the article and sort out the issue. I understand there is a part in the article that sounds promotional, which we are okay to edit.

Regarding paid contribution disclosure, as I'm not paid to do this and I'm just helping my boss, could you please explain what it means? Does this mean we need to contribute to Wikipedia? Your explanation would be helpful. Also, is there a way to restore the page again? thank you for your time Kunal5651 (talk) 02:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@Kunal5651: Everyone who makes an edit on here, including you, is an editor. As far as Wikipedia is concerned, if you and Looi have an employer-employee relationship, you are considered to have a paid relationship, even if you don't receive any monetary compensation for this. Kindly make the paid contribution disclosure, preferably on your user page at User:Kunal5651. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:14, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Stefan Braese

HI!

I must get an article about Stefan Braese, my old boss, out of my sandbox and published.

I found some instructions on how to do it in pdf format, but the vital 'move' button next to 'search' is not on the page anymore.

Please, can you get the damned thing published? Or tell me what to do?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AKyeMasters%2Fsandbox&oldid=prev&diff=1217969612

Thanks, you are so good-looking!

Kye KyeMasters (talk) 12:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Did your ex-boss ask you to create an article? If so please read Wikipedia:When your boss tells you to edit Wikipedia. And if he didn't, why the urgency? -- Hoary (talk) 12:26, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

I've added the information to allow you to submit it for a review; new accounts cannot directly create articles. It is completely unsourced, however, and would not be accepted. It reads like a resume and not an encyclopedia article that summarizes what independent reliable sources say about a topic, showing how it is notable; in this case, a notable person. 331dot (talk) 12:28, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

The page needs work. It looks like a translation of de:Stefan Bräse, I have acknowledged that in the edit history per Help:Translation#License requirements. The references from that article have been copied as the documents section, but not linked to the text they are supposed to support. TSventon (talk) 12:40, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Please note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 15:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Deleted

I edited List of game engines and added Soba as an engine. Why is it deleted? Its an real engine: soba.xyz NikShucks (talk) 12:43, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@NikShucks: Your addition was reverted by a bot, maybe for another reason but Template:Editnotices/Page/List of game engines should be displayed when you edit the article. Soba doesn't have its own article so it doesn't belong on the list. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, NikShucks. Like most list articles, that article would be more accurately titled "List of Wikipedia articles about game engines". Write the article first.

But note that existence is not enough for something to be the subject of an article: it must meet Wikipedia's definition of notable, which broadly means that enough independent material about it has been reliably published to base an article on, remembering that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 15:53, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Write about someone

How can I start writing on someones life Ogoodnews (talk) 13:55, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

We generally don't recommend new contributors to start be creating a new article - it is better to gain some experience editing existing conent first. If you really want to start that way, first read Wikipedia:Notability (people), and only then, if you are confident that you can show that the person meets our notability criteria, see Help:Your first article for how to proceed. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:04, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

what are the25 similarities between 4H R school of thoughts as by article read written by Marie Benedicte Dembour

what are the25 similarities between 4H R school of thoughts as by article read written by Marie Benedicte Dembour 41.210.147.152 (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Your question makes little sense to me, but in any case it does not appear to be a question about editing Wikipedia, which is what this Help desk if for. ColinFine (talk) 15:54, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Do your own homework is relevant here. Cullen328 (talk) 19:00, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

You forgot to sign!

From early in my time on Wikipedia (registered 2006) until I went inactive in 2021, I used a feature that makes it hard not to sign edits on talk pages and other discussion pages: if I saved an edit without a signature, the interface would give me a reminder saying something like "did you mean to save this edit without a signature?" Of course it would let me save it without a signature if I wanted (I'd just have to hit "save" again), but this way I couldn't easily omit the signature by accident.

This edit showed me that such a feature is no longer active for my account. How do I reactivate it? I assumed it was in Special:Preferences, but I can't find it in the Gadgets or anywhere else. Nyttend (talk) 20:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Welcome to the new world of the reply tool. I'm using it right now to reply to you, it is indenting and signing my post automatically. It doesn't have the exact functionality you describe, but it is pretty great. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 20:16, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@Nyttend: Are you sure it was about a missing signature and not a missing edit summary? Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing has "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary)". PrimeHunter (talk) 20:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Oh, oops, yes you're right. I guess I can't think how such a feature would distinguish a new comment from an edit to an old one. Nyttend (talk) 20:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

viewing history of a specific section of an article

Is there any way to filter an article's history to see edits made to a specific section of said article? Probably not, I'm just curious I guess. Thanks, have a nice day! ¿VØ!D? ✨ 20:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Edits to a particular section will typically include the section title in the edit summary. For example, my last article edit was to Hinche#Colonial era, and the edit summary is Colonial era: Wording improvements. Since sections are merely portions of an article — not distinct entities — it's possible to delete, rename, merge, etc. them, and aside from manually reviewing everything, there's no way to review edits to a given section if the name doesn't stay exactly the same. Nyttend (talk) 20:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

It doesn't exactly fit what you're looking for, but there is a browser extension Who Wrote That? that allows you to hover over text and see who wrote it, which will let you see who made the most recent changes to a particular section and when that revision was made. Reconrabbit 22:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

April 30

Creating an account

I am so confused. I am trying to create my own Wiki page, but it seems like I am going through a rabbit hole. I have never been blocked. What should I do? 76.176.79.181 (talk) 01:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

You need to be much more specific. What is the precise name of your account, and what specific problem have you run across? Cullen328 (talk) 02:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I'm guessing from your wording that you think that Wikipedia is like social media, and when you have an account you will automatically have a "page" where you can tell the world about you.

It is not like that. There is no connection between creating an account and editing Wikipedia articles; in fact, you can do most things as an editor without ever creating an account.

There is a kind of "page" associated with an account, but it is called a "user page", and it is not part of the encyclopaedia and doesn't get indexed by searcfh engines: it is for sharing information, if you choose, about yourself as a Wikipedia editor.

If your purpose here is creating a Wikipedia article about yourself, then I must tell you that writing about yourself is strongly discouraged here, and so difficult that very few people have ever been successful doing it.

If you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability - broadly, that there has been enough material wholly indepenent of you published about you to base an article on - then an article on you is possible; but as I say, you are strongly discouraged from creating it yourself.

If not then no article about you is possible, whoever writes it.

If I have misunderstood, and you were not meaning an article about yourself, then I apologise: please explain more fully what you want. ColinFine (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Railway lines in Townsville in 1960

Are there any drawings/Maps of Railway lines in Townsville From 1955 to 1965? 2001:8003:F406:5B00:3CAF:AE71:912:85F4 (talk) 01:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

I presume that their copyright status would prevent their appearance in Wikimedia Commons. (I haven't looked there, as I presume that you've already done so.) -- Hoary (talk) 02:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps our article Great Northern Railway (Mt Isa line) and its references may be useful to you. My experience as a fan of historic railroads is that there is a wealth of locally published but quite useful books and journals about various railroads worldwide. The websites of the relevant railroad historical societies and museums often have plenty of information about route maps and related books for sale. That being said, the Help Desk is for asking and answering questions about editing Wikipedia. The Reference desks are for general knowledge questions. Cullen328 (talk) 09:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Cannot add content

I am not able to add content on few topics like Digital Signature, the content will help the readers in better understanding of the topic. Whenever I try to add it, it gets removed within24 hours along with the reference link , I am trying since past few times but no luck. Tell me how I can do it Cathy.miller123 (talk) 04:30, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, Cathy.miller123. Decide what needs to be added or amended, based on one or more reliable, disinterested sources, unrelated to the company of which -- you say on your user page (and thank you for saying it) -- you are Vice President. Then, as you are not disinterested, don't make the edit but instead ask for it (of course specifying the source(s)), at the foot of Talk:Digital signature. -- Hoary (talk) 04:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Cathy.miller123, I took a look at one of your reverted edits. You were using non-neutral, advertising language to promote your employer. The Neutral point of view is a core content policy. Promotional editing is forbidden by policy. Cullen328 (talk) 05:55, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Looking for a tutor

I am quite new in English Wikipedia and need some quick lesion. Who can please help? מתיאל (talk) 08:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Hardly new? You have edited here since 2017 and paid editors will generally not be given much help here. Theroadislong (talk) 08:21, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Have you tried WP:TUTORIAL? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

I guess that I am old fashioned, but every time I applied for or accepted a job, going back over five decades, starting with delivering newspapers as an adolescent, moving on up to restaurant dishwashing and then on to increasingly responsible positions including 30 years of self employment, I was always fully confident that I could do the job well, and proved it in every job I ever held. Here you are, a paid editor asking highly experienced volunteer editors to train you to do your job that you should have already fully understood when you accepted your first paid editing gig. Doesn't that seem a bit strange to you? Cullen328 (talk) 08:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

With a bit more respect, if you are looking to learn how to use Wikipedia better for non-PAID/COI reasons, I'd be happy to help you understand a bit more about the site. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:53, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Can i write you. It's about the English WIkipedia. מתיאל (talk) 18:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

That's what User talk:Lee Vilenski is for. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:32, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Engineering

What is the engineering requirements and what does an engineer do on his daily basis lastly how much does it earn per month 41.115.31.128 (talk) 15:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

This is not a general Help Desk or question asking forum, please use your preferred search engine to find information on being an engineer. 331dot (talk) 15:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Information on Google Side Bar

There is information on our Google Side Bar that is incorrect, however, when I go to our wiki page to change it- I can't find the information. 97.64.208.178 (talk) 17:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

On a related note, Niabi Zoo stands in need of help in the tone and sourcing areas - not surprising if there's been COI editing going on. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 19:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Do you have to pay to have vandalism stopped on your profile?

A year ago I (paid) contracted with WikiModerator.com to have a page/profile created for my company Wainwright Global, Inc. which has been around since 2006, graduated over 6,000 students as Certified Professional Coaches, holds the CPC® credential USA Registered Trademark for Certified Professional Coaches.

The company, WikiModerator.com, is now asking for $1800 to put a "lock" on the account to prevent vandalism. I'm curious if that is legitimate or if the company is trying to take advantage of me.

This is the link they shared with me for my Wiki Page: https://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Wainwright_Global_Institute_of_Professional_Coaching

I look forward to receiving a response.

Sincerely,

Barbara BarbaraWainwright (talk) 19:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@BarbaraWainwright, this is a scam (you may want to read WP:SCAM). Please do not give them any more money. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 19:03, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Additionally, wikialpha.org is not associated in any way with Wikipedia. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your quick response. What is the correct way to get a page added to wikipedia? BarbaraWainwright (talk) 19:10, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@BarbaraWainwright, ideally, someone entirely unconnected to your company would take notice of significant coverage in reliable sources and decide to write an article based on them. If you want to make the attempt yourself, you would first need to read and comply with WP:PAID, then start at Help:Your first article. Our notability guideline for companies is at WP:ORG, if you want to look that over. 57.140.16.48 (talk) 19:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Please see conflict of interest and paid editing. I think that you misunderstand Wikipedia and what we do here- this is not a database of things that exist, and is not a place for companies to tell about themselves. We are interested in what others say about your company, not what it says about itself. 331dot (talk) 19:16, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@BarbaraWainwright: To further expound on 331dot's comment, when he says what others say about your company, he refers to sources that Wikipedia considers reliable, not testimonies. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you @Tenryuu, for the edification. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. As far as I am aware, there are not too many sources that are writing about my company. And thank you @331dot, for your explanation as well. "Not a database of things that exist." I imagined that Wikipedia was a site where one could look up information a company for background, founders, when it was founded. I guess that is more appropriate for Zoominfo.com Thank you again for your time. BarbaraWainwright (talk) 20:40, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Alas (from your point of view), "there are not too many sources that are writing about my company." is another way of saying "is not a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article at this time". --Orange Mike | Talk 23:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

BarbaraWainwright, in my opinion, while Wainwright Global is a respectable business, it is not notable enough (in Wikipedia's weird sense) to warrant an article about it here (we call them articles, not profiles). But that's a matter of opinion. Things I am sure of: while WikiModerator.com will take your money, they have no power to put a "lock" on a Wikipedia article; and wikialpha.org is unconnected with Wikipedia. Maproom (talk) 20:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much @Maproom. I appreciate understanding about "articles"... and that my company doesn't warrant an article. There are a lot of companies that market the fact that can get you a Wikipedia article. I've got to admit it hurts a little bit (mostly in the wallet) to know they can't. Thanks again. BarbaraWainwright (talk) 20:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

The Wikimedia Foundation, which owns Wikipedia, only accepts donations, not payments. And donations are never leverage over the content of Wikipedia: the Wikipedia Community is in charge of the content, since the Wikimedia Foundation only ensures the servers, the software, the legal assistance, and so on, required for running Wikipedia. While the Wikimedia Foundation can sometimes intervene in Wikipedia, that is reserved for very blatant abuses. The Wikipedia Community is theoretically independent of the Wikimedia Foundation. tgeorgescu (talk) 21:08, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

BarbaraWainwright, your instincts were sound to ask here before paying them money to "lock" your page at WikiAlpha. The good news is, no one seems to have vandalized the page over there, and if you're interested in keeping an eye on it, you (or someone you trust) can get an account there and request to be notified over email if there are any changes to it, and that's free of charge. Even that may not be necessary, however, because for various reasons, Google rarely includes WikiAlpha pages in its top search results. I did not see that page in the first few pages of results when I searched for your company just now. The silver lining to that is, the sites that you have control over (your main website, your LinkedIn, Facebook, YouTube profiles, etc.) appear at the top of the search results, and if there were a Wikipedia article, it would likely also be in the top results, and you would not have control over its contents, even if a third party "guaranteed" that you would in exchange for payment. I apologize if all of this is confusing; the bottom line is you are wise to avoid paying for anything that cannot be guaranteed. 28bytes (talk) 01:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Learning to Program templates.

I'm looking to upgrade a template for an infobox for a Wikiproject that I am on. (adding a few maintenance categories). Where can I find documentation and/or pages where I can ask questions. (this template is used on less than 500 pages and I have editted it in the past, just with a less complex request).Naraht (talk) 21:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@Naraht: H:IB should give you the answer. If you still have questions, reach out to the people on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes project. They know a lot about infoboxes. If you still have questions, ask them here. @Avishai11 Avishai11 (talk) 23:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Socks with no masters

I've got a situation where, based on edit behaviour and the circumstances of their account I'm nearly certain an editor I'm engaging with is a sock. Specifically they are acting in a way that I've seen in the past where an editor protects their principal account for blow-back for WP:AFG and WP:NPA violations by having an attack-account. The problem is that I don't have any sense of who the sock master might be. I would normally take a sock to WP:SPI but you really need at least one other account to do so. Is the only recourse WP:AN/I or is there some other method I could use to raise these concerns? Simonm223 (talk) 21:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@Simonm223: If you know of a checkuser who is receptive to being asked if an offender(or DUCK) is a repeat-or-multi-accounted offender and there's things you can point out to convince them to do so, you could ask them to check: Wikipedia:CheckUser#Grounds for checking. That's the non-bureaucracy way that I know of at least. – 2804:F14:80C8:4701:4D4A:EEE9:FF56:A392 (talk) 22:52, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

The 'CheckUser and the privacy policy' and 'Contacting a checkuser' sections expands on that a bit more as well. – 2804:F14:80C8:4701:4D4A:EEE9:FF56:A392 (talk) 23:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, that's very helpful Simonm223 (talk) 23:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Deletion Criteria

Hi,

Am I allowed to propose deletion if all of the sources are in a different language (Arabic)?

Best,

@Avishai11

Avishai11 (talk) 22:49, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Avishai11. No, that is not a valid reason for deletion. English language sources are preferred if abundant. But references to sources in other languages are perfectly acceptable. Cullen328 (talk) 00:35, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Relevant link: WP:NONENG —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)