Talk:Donald Arthur

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Please pare this down[edit]

I just deleted 14000 bytes from this digressive and disorganized article, and it's still way too long. Please, don't just dump every fact that you can find that's tenuously related to the subject. Long digressions on the Naval Honor Code or the Hurt Report that don't even mention Donald Arthur simply don't belong here, except perhaps as a wikilink. An article is supposed to have some shape and organization, not just be a data dump, no matter how admirably well-researched it is. An article author needs to know how to summarize, how to link, and when to leave stuff out. · rodii · 23:23, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Current article state[edit]

I pared down this article to bring it into compliance with Wikipedia policy on biographies of living persons. The previous version was a gross violation of several basic principles of this policy: It was peppered with original research, worded poorly, and it made use of primary and unreliable sources. The discussion into the subject's motorcycle riding habits (seriously?) and the subsequent use of those "conclusions" to inject clever commentary into further aspects of his career were completely inappropriate. The use of scanned congressional record pages hosted in Commons to support addition of excessive personal details was also inappropriate. And so on. The current version reflects what I could source regarding the subject's career (for example, positions with some healthcare organizations are no longer valid and cannot be verified anymore), plus the "controversy" over his education credentials. To the extent that the bio is now shortened, the issue with the credentials cannot create undue weight, and even if the bio was longer I'm not sure this would merit much more. I'm sure some people believe it does, and if that information can be found and sourced correctly then it can be added after discussing it here or at WP:BLP/N. Wikipedia articles, and especially biographies, are not "whitewashed", but are also not the place to further agendas of any type. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 01:56, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]