Talk:The Death of Expertise

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needs to evolve into an actual article[edit]

At this point in time, the book -- officially published barely two weeks ago -- still needs to be properly presented in an article supported by more than marketing hype and a handful of largely laudatory pre-publication reviews.

The article focuses on Nichols ("He blames…" "Nicholas condemns…" "…he says…") rather than on the argument as laid out and examined by the book, which after all is the intended focus. A good start might be to expand upon outlining what sort of corrective measures are presented in the book, rather than a sort of back-jacket teaser ("…the self-correcting presence of other experts…" – in what way is such a presence "self-correcting"?).

Is the author Thomas Nichols as stated here, or Tom Nichols (academic) as in his (stub-like) bio?
Weeb Dingle (talk) 16:34, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

quote in summary is ugly[edit]

The quote in the summary does not flow well and should be moved elsewhere or removed. Sanpitch (talk) 23:39, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kahneman and Klein?[edit]

Shouldn't this article say something about Daniel Kahneman; Gary A. Klein (1 September 2009). "Conditions for intuitive expertise: a failure to disagree". American Psychologist. 64 (6): 515–526. doi:10.1037/A0016755. ISSN 0003-066X. PMID 19739881. Wikidata Q35001791. and / or chapter 22 in Kahneman (2011) Thinking, Fast and Slow?

Kahneman (2011, p. 234) wrote, "My most satisfying and productive adversarial collaboration was with Gary Klein". Kahneman (2011, ch. 22) says, in sum, that experts in most fields can be beaten by simple heuristics developed by an intelligent lay person. Genuine expertise requires feedback about the quality of judgment that is good, quick, and often. Without high quality feedback that is relatively quick and in sufficient quantity to allow the person to practice, experts rely on established "knowledge", which can often be beaten by simple heuristics developed by lay person, who bothers to do a reasonable review of the available literature and summarize it thoughtfully. This is based on research and is, I think, an extremely important result that I couldn't find in The Death of Expertise. Caveat: I have not read every word. I have searched in the book for "Kahneman" and "Klein" and found nothing.

Are there no published reviews that mentioned this deficiency?

I think it should be mentioned, but it would be best if it were mentioned on a review of this book that could be cited. Thanks, DavidMCEddy (talk) 06:04, 1 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]