Talk:Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull

Why no early history?

I'd be interested in finding out her family, religion, schooling etc. I think it would be relevant. Also why she choose to parody the actor Parker Posey's name. 14.200.155.254 (talk) 01:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

I think it's a spin on Nosey Parker rather than Parker Posey?

Not sure her early life etc. is going to be very interesting but you could do some research and see what you turn up. If it's properly sourced it would go into the article. Lukewarmbeer (talk) 16:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

photo

may i update the photo to be something more recent from her lws event in edinburgh? i’m not sure the protocol on this. let me know! Sugar, Spice, and XX (talk) 19:55, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

hey again! still wondering this. new to wikipedia editing, but i’ve been browsing all my life (as i’m sure most have) — i just always thought it was interesting that you could tell if editors disagreed with the person the article was written about based on the photo chosen for the article. anyway, keep me updated! Sugar, Spice, and XX (talk) 07:50, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

The main issue is copyright and personal rights, i.e. licensing and permission to use an image on Wikipedia. You can't just upload a picture you found elsewhere to Wikipedia, not even a picture you took yourself; you need to get – or grant – permission to use it in this way.

See Wikipedia:Uploading images, Wikipedia:Non-free content and Wikipedia:Images, and especially the Wikipedia:Image use policy, which contains a summary of the potential issues. TucanHolmes (talk) 14:40, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Disgraceful management of this topic

It is beyond clear that whomever is in charge of managing this page is biased. This page is not informative—it is the pet project of someone who cannot engage with views that oppose their own. This page is why we decided to stop donating to Wikipedia. 71.168.164.239 (talk) 04:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

No one manages this, or any other, page on Wikipedia. It is an agglomeration of contributions from a variety of editors

I doubt if any of those editors thinks themselves biased - which is part of the many problems with the way it all works - but until someone comes up with a better way (I can't) this is what we've got to work with. It's not bad overall.

One of the basic prinsiples is assuming good faith. People often don't but the 'better' editors try. Keep your money - we will manage without - but if you feel like contributing editorially try and be one of the 'better' editors. Lukewarmbeer (talk) 16:40, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

unfortunately i agree with this sentiment Sugar, Spice, and XX (talk) 06:21, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Doxxing

It is doxxing to reveal someone's personal information online without their consent. It should be linked as this in the article, if far-left Wikipedia editors care. 92.27.180.7 (talk) 12:17, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• Or alternatively those pesky far-left editors could have just written the sentence in plain English, without needing to use a term that some may not understand. Black Kite (talk) 12:20, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

Links to far-right

Given there is adequate sourcing from reliable sources and that it seems to be one of the main reasons for her notability (at least where I'm from), should we describe Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull as having links to the far-right in the lede? An example would perhaps look like:
Current - Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (née Keen; born 1974 or 1975), also known as Posie Parker, is a British [gender-critical and anti–transgender rights activist and the leader of the political party, Party of Women.
Updated - Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull (née Keen; born 1974 or 1975), also known as Posie Parker, is a British gender-critical, anti–transgender rights activist who has been described as having links to the far-right. Keen-Minshull is the leader of the political party, Party of Women.

Sample sources

References

TarnishedPath^talk 05:18, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

I am not opposed to a short mention, but I would probably suggest expanding on it more in the body as well. Lead feels pretty short in general tbh, though I suppose it is within the guidance of MOS:LEADLENGTH. Maybe it's just that the 2 paragraphs are pretty short ones. E: Just to be clear, I mean both expanding the stuff about links to the far-right in the body and (for the second part of my comment) expanding the other stuff as well in the lead and adding the mention as a part of that. Alpha3031 (t • c) 06:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC) E 06:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

The first 3 sources set out above are basically PinkNews reporting the Hope not Hate mention. So the fact that there are 3 sources is just repetition – these are not to be treated as independently signifying importance. The 4th source is not accessible to me. The Hope not Hate report is included in the article under ‘Biography’. I don’t see any reason to consider this is important enough to be included in the lead.

And if we are to mention the alleged links to the far-right in the lead, we should also mention that K-J K-M has said that she abhors anything to do with Nazis, as stated in the article in the ‘Australia’ section.

She has also recently settled a defamation claim against John Pesutto concerning the alleged association with Nazis. I don’t think this is important enough to be mentioned in the lead, but I think it goes against the idea that links to the far-right are one of the main reasons for her notability.

Sweet6970 (talk) 14:42, 2 June 2024 (UTC)