Talk:Habte Giyorgis Dinagde

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Introduce my self!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![edit]

i am the family of Fitawrari Habtegyorgis Dinagde!!! please there let me introduce you in detaile. I am the son of Welansa Fitawrari Taye, who is the brother of Kegn Azmach Kebede Habregiyorgis!!! Therefore, i need to contact with the family of Habtegiyorgis Dinagde and know each other since i am the close family!!! please i am asking you help to reply me by soon!! my mother strongly wants to get her Kins!!!! you cn contact me by my email address (breosho@gmail.com) or facebook brehanu Bogale Birhanu Bogale Addis Ababa Ethiopia!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.55.105.248 (talk) 07:03, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oromo, Gurage, or both?[edit]

There are editing disputes as to whether he was Gurage or Oromo. Often in Ethiopia, people are descended from more than one group. (Pondering this could change some current political extreme tendencies.) Instead of edit wars, I call for citing evidence.Pete unseth (talk) 20:36, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In the book Ethiopia by Paulos Milkias P221, it stated that Habte Giorgis was a pure Oromo. It mentions that his lands and units he commanded where from Chebo. This misunderstanding of people thinking he came from Chebo started in here. Jpduke (talk) 23:56, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings @Jpduke: do you happen to know the page number of Paulos Milkias book, where it states Habte Giorgis ethnicity? Just to confirm. If sources are equally prominent, maybe we could also add that his background is disputed. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 21:50, 9 January 2022 (UTC) Update Here's one with Paulos Milkias writing Habte Giorgis ethnicity is Gurage. ^[1][reply]

Hello, it’s on page 221. It claims that he is a “pure Oromo”. This is why I named the place of birth because of the dispute of his ethnicity. We can definitely state that his ethnicity is disputed in order to end the edits. Also, when you undo the edits make sure to undo specific parts of the edits since it reverts all of the work I did that doesn’t relate to ethnicity like his military and political articles. Here is a citation for the book, Milkias, Paulos. Ethiopia. Santa Barbara: Abc-Clio, 2011. Print. Jpduke (talk) 09:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Dawit _S_Gondaria it’s on page 221. It claims that he is a “pure Oromo”. This is why I named the place of birth because of the dispute of his ethnicity. We can definitely state that his ethnicity is disputed in order to end the edits. Also, when you undo the edits make sure to undo specific parts of the edits since it reverts all of the work I did that doesn’t relate to ethnicity like his military and political articles. Here is a citation for the book, Milkias, Paulos. Ethiopia. Santa Barbara: Abc-Clio, 2011. Print. Jpduke (talk) 09:13, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Jpduke: You added Bahru Zewde History of Ethiopia, on which page does it support the claim? Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 12:08, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sources that say he is Gurage[edit]

●Paulos Milkias: Quote; ‘‘Fitawrari Habte Giorgis, another outsider with a humble background, came from the Gurage ethnic group and served as Minister of War.’’^[2]

Sources that say he is Oromo[edit]

●Paulos Milkias's book "Ethiopia" on page 221, it is stated he is "pure Oromo": ^[3]

Sources that say he is both Gurage and Oromo[edit]

Discussion[edit]

Please provide page numbers for verification. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 18:43, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have verified both Paulos Milkias book, contradictery one he is ethnic Gurage other Pure Oromo. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 19:44, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Writing name[edit]

There is no war on his first name being Habte Giyorgis. I am wonderig why there is space between his first name. It seems like Giyorgis is his father name. I am moving the page in a week to Habtegiyorgis Dinagde if there is no oppose.(Mercy for my English) Maammee (talk) 21:08, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

^ Milkias, Paulos; Metaferia, Getachew (2005). The Battle of Adwa: Reflections on Ethiopia's Historic Victory Against European Colonialism. Algora Publishing. p. 182. ISBN 9780875864143.
^ Milkias, Paulos; Metaferia, Getachew (2005). The Battle of Adwa: Reflections on Ethiopia's Historic Victory Against European Colonialism. Algora Publishing. p. 182. ISBN 9780875864143.
^ Milkias, Paulos (2011). Ethiopia. Santa Barbara, California: ABC-CLIO. p. 221. OCLC 728097838.

No acces to Obnoromia.com[edit]

@J@Pduke: I have no acces to this non-English, Oromo source so i can't verify your claims in the edit summary whether its scholarly or not, english sources are prefered. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 18:33, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated the link for the citation. The website "Obnoromia.com" is not the correct website.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpduke (talk • contribs) 19:32, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Milkias, Paulos; Metaferia, Getachew (2005). The Battle of Adwa: Reflections on Ethiopia's Historic Victory Against European Colonialism. Algora Publishing. p. 182. ISBN 9780875864143.

[2] Milkias, Paulos; Metaferia, Getachew (2005). The Battle of Adwa: Reflections on Ethiopia's Historic Victory Against European Colonialism. Algora Publishing. p. 182. ISBN 9780875864143.

[3] Milkias, Paulos (2011). Ethiopia. Santa Barbara, California: ABC-CLIO. p. 221. OCLC 728097838.

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