Talk:Challenge 21

These seem to have nothing to do with Challenge 21

"The scheme has at times been operated in an overzealous manner. The BBC reported that a grandmother, aged 47, was refused the ability to purchase alcohol despite being 29 years older than the legal age limit. The woman's daughter, aged 22, was similarly refused even though she could provide ID as the staff-member was concerned that the daughter could have passed the wine to her mother."

This is a case of operating something entirely different in an overzealous manner: a policy of asking all members of a group for ID in order to proceed with the sale. But this is in itself ridiculous:

• somebody buying alcohol for somebody under 18 to drink need not bring that somebody into the shop at all
• you might need to find somebody to babysit your toddler just so you can buy alcohol while on your normal weekly shopping trip
• if your child is 5 or over, it isn't even illegal to give him/her alcohol, so what does the retailer think it's doing anyway?

"The Blackpool Gazette reported that a 72-year-old man had been refused the purchase of alcohol because of the failure to produce a form of Identity card."

From what I can make out, this can only be due to a policy of asking all customers for ID, regardless of how old they look. While this may just as well be overzealous, it's the only policy that makes logical sense given the strict policies many places have on what forms of ID they'll accept. As I once wrote: if you don't think student ID cards, dedicated proof of age cards or whatever are verifiable forms of ID, what on earth makes you think that any judgement of how old someone looks is? -- Smjg (talk) 00:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Out of date - challenge 25

This article is out of date, as most of the major retailers (and many smaller ones) are now using Challenge 25, not just Asda. http://www.talkingretail.com/news/industry-news/retailers-launch-challenge-25-alcohol-scheme 86.161.29.90 (talk) 01:57, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

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