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Article naming convention[edit]

Before going all out and creating articles for all GA clubs, I wanted to get some form of consensus on article names. The two main options are the club's legal name or the Div One team name.

For example, in NSW Illawarra Gridiron Inc is the legal name of the club though it would be more well known by their Div One team Wollongong Mustangs.

I'm more in favour of the team name, with university teams shortened to "uni" and common acronyms preferred over the full wording (examples Sydney Uni Lions and UTS Gridiron, respectively). The complete name can be in the opening overview paragraph of the article. This is based on rugby league articles after searching around wiki for a while to get a feel for what the standard is. Bren talk 02:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Colts teams[edit]

Can Colts and Div One share the same article or is there enough info to warrant separate atricles? The Template:Infobox aus sport club and Template:Infobox sports league were not designed with separate divisions in mind, though it would be easy enough to create new infobox templates. Bren talk 02:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notability[edit]

Can someone explain to me how these individual teams are notable? I looked at a few articles and didn't see any published sources. Also, in the U.S. there are thousands of youth football teams, what makes these teams so special? KnightLago (talk) 03:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

in fact I will expand on that: please demonstrate the notability of Gridiron / American football in Australia. Then demonstrate its' notability in each state. Then demonstrate notability of each league. If you can manage that .... go ahead and identify the notability of individual teams. I suggest that there are not even any notable leagues in Australia, as in "unless you are interested it is a suprise that this game is played in Australia".Garrie 02:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was bold and redirected all the teams to their leagues. KnightLago 14:17, 30 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Update, these have now all been redirect to the articles below. KnightLago (talk) 19:46, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mergers[edit]

I have tagged several articles for merge to Gridiron Australia. That is the article I will watch for discussion. Please don't visit my talk page to discuss it, any comment there about the merge suggestion itself will be removed.Garrie 03:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not that it was completed by me but as of right now there are only two articles:
Please make every effort to achieve notability within those two articles prior to splitting off individual leages, then achieve notability within each league prior to splitting off individual teams. Cheers, Garrie 10:03, 4 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Project viability[edit]

This project consists of two active members; one category: Category:Gridiron in Australia; and three articles. None of the articles have had significant editing recently.

As a courtesy, I am raising this here first, but unless a justification is shown, the project may need to go to WP:MfD for discussion. —Moondyne click! 02:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Given the lack of a reply, ive decided to go ahead and take it to MfD. Five Years 14:15, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme[edit]

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GAN backlog reduction - Sports and recreation[edit]

As you may know, we currently have 400 good article nominations, with a large number of them being in the sports and recreation section. As such, the waiting time for this is especially long, much longer than it should be. As a result of this, I am asking each sports-related WikiProject to review two or three of these nominations. If this is abided by, then the backlog should be cleared quite quickly. Some projects nominate a lot but don't review, or vice-versa, and following this should help to provide a balance and make the waiting time much smaller so that our articles can actually get reviewed! Wizardman 23:39, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfC on the use of flag icons for sportspeople[edit]

An RfC discussion about the MOS:FLAG restriction on the use of flag icons for sportspeople has been opened at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons. We invite all interested participants to provide their opinion here. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:45, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

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WikiProject X is live![edit]

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WikiConfererence Australia 2015 - Save the date 3-5 October 2015[edit]

Our first Australian conference for Wikipedians/Wikimedians will be held 3-5 October 2015. Organised by Wikimedia Australia, there will be a 2-day conference (Saturday 3 October and Sunday 4 October) with an optional 3rd day (Monday 5 October) for specialist topics (unconference discussions, training sessions, etc). The venue is the State Library of Queensland in Brisbane. So put those dates in your diary! Note: Monday is a public holiday is some states but not others. Read about it here: WikiConference Australia 2015

As part of that page, there are now sections for you to:

  • indicate your interest in possibly attending the conference (this is not a binding commitment, of course)
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It would really help our planning if you could let us know about possible attendance and the kind of topics that would make you want to come. If you don’t want to express your views on-wiki, please email me at kerry.raymond@wikimedia.org.au or committee@wikimedia.org.au

We are hoping to have travel subsidies available to assist active Australasian Wikipedians to attend the conference, although we are not currently in a position to provide details, but be assured we are doing everything we can to make it possible for active Australian Wikipedians to come to the conference. Kerry (talk) 00:18, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Folks, just letting you know we will not be proceeding with Wikiconference Australia 2015 originally proposed for 3-5 October 2015. Thanks to those of you who expressed your support. You are free to attend the football finals instead :-) Kerry (talk) 08:09, 3 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There has recently been a discussion at the talk page of the WikiProject on Accessibility regarding Template:Infobox gridiron football person. In the past, the template only had a single set of parameters for playing_years and playing_teams. This caused editors to create lists using <br>. This violates Wikipedia's policies regarding accessibility (see WP:VLIST). To correct this issue, the template has been edited to include numbered parameters playing_years1/playing_team1 through playing_years20/playing_year20 (and similar for coaching, administrating, etc). Eventually, the parameters playing_years and playing_teams will likely be removed from the template and all articles will need to use the new parameters, in order to prevent future issues with accessibility. This template should generally not be in use in articles primarily related to this project, but in practice, many articles that this project will be interested in use it.

There is further discussion ongoing about whether these changes should be done manually or with a bot. You can read and contribute to the discussion at the talk page. ~ RobTalk 21:46, 14 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RFC on sports notability[edit]

An RFC has recently been started regarding a potential change to the notability guidelines for sportspeople. Please join in the conversation. Thank you. Primefac (talk) 23:08, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]