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U.S. Route 16 in Michigan[edit]

U.S. Route 16 in Michigan (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) review

Suggestion: Promote to A-Class
Nominator's comments: Grand River Avenue dates back to before Michigan's territorial days, and after I replaced one source, I feel this merits review for A-Class.
Nominated by: Imzadi 1979  04:43, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First comment occurred: 04:46, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Review by Dough4872[edit]

Review by Dough4872
  • I will review the article. Dough4872 04:46, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

  1. "The modern road cuts across the Lower Peninsula in a northwest–southeast fashion from Grand Rapids to Detroit.", didn't US 16 run from Muskegon to Detroit?
    • Clarified, that refers to Grand River Ave, not US 16. Imzadi 1979  06:32, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2. You should move the history about Grand River Avenue to earlier in the lead as to be in chronological order.
  3. A reference is needed for "(Later, the I-96 and I-196 designations west of Grand Rapids would be flipped, but at the time leading up to US 16's decommissioning in the state of Michigan, this had not yet been approved.)", I don't think the 1962 map alone can support this.
  4. In the sentence "The freeway turned more directly east in Nunica past the eastern terminus of M-104, and continued east through more mixed forest and grassland terrain to serve the communities of Coopersville and Marne." you use east twice. One of the instances should be removed.
  5. "Grand River Avenue carried the highway past the airport and east to Larch Street, where US 16 turned south along US 27 north of downtown Lansing.", you should mention the name of the airport.
  6. You should mention more details about attractions that were along the route when it was decommissioned.
    • The sources don't specify any "attractions", so this can't be added. We'd need to identify period sources for such a thing, which have not been shown to exist. Imzadi 1979  06:32, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  7. The sentence "An economic panic in 1837 drove settlers from New York to Michigan, settlers that followed the Grand River Road." sounds awkward.
  8. I noticed that US 16 has had bannered routes during its history in Michigan but there is no coverage of them. You should possibly include them in this article or an article about all the bannered routes of US 16.
    • There's just the one, and I suppose I could add BUS US 16 from Grand Rapids to this article in the next day or so... Imzadi 1979  06:32, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • I forgot the other BUS US 16 and the BYP US 16 when I replied, but all three are now added to the article. Imzadi 1979  00:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  9. Since Business US 16 in Grand Rapids is gone, what is the former routing now called? Dough4872 00:57, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • There is no state highway along the former BUS US 16. Instead it followed what is now a series of city streets from Walker through Grand Rapids into Cascade Township. Imzadi 1979  06:32, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Issues resolved. Dough4872 01:19, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Review / Image review by Admrboltz[edit]

Extended content

I will do a prose check later this weekend. --AdmrBoltz 18:33, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Images done and links fixed. Imzadi 1979  23:39, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thx. Will review the prose at a latter point. --AdmrBoltz 23:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comments from me.

  • MSHD is mentioned twice, but is never explained what the abbreviation is.
  • Yellow Book - you had previously mentioned to me if you are not going to refer to it again to just leave it with the official name and not mention Yellow Book.
  • Lansing History has gone dead

Otherwise the article looks good to go to me. --AdmrBoltz 22:16, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Imzadi1979: Just these items to address and I can support. --AdmrBoltz 18:20, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • First usage of MSHD (not counting the infobox) has it spelled out.
  • Dropped.
  • Archive url added to resurrect the link. Imzadi 1979  21:45, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support --AdmrBoltz 21:58, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • One afterthought. If the highway was in service until 1962, why not use the 1961 US Route shields, or did MSHD not place the new signs on the road before decommissioning it? --AdmrBoltz 06:37, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      • As far as we can tell, the MSHD never adopted the 1961 specs and retained the 1948s until the 1971/73 update. Imzadi 1979  08:21, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Review by Rschen7754

I will do review number 3. --Rschen7754 04:53, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Preliminary check
  • Sources good, though source 24 could be problematic in the future.
  • RJL good.
  • A map would be nice, though since this is a former route I won't be as strict about this as I usually am.
Lead
  • The freeway was then designated only Interstate 96 (I-96) or I-196. - could be a bit more clear - both at the same places?
  • Later starting two sentences in the second paragraph
RD
  • So at the time of decommissioning... it was I-196?
  • metro - expand
  • Downtown Detroit - capital D on the first one?
  • and I-96/US 16 met the northern end of then-built US 23 freeway - of the?
History
  • I assume it's okay to say "Indian"....
  • was included as one of Five Great Military Roads - by who?
  • modern Grand River Avenue - comma
  • that distance being a good day's travel by horse. - cannot stand alone
  • Approximately 124 - ?
  • When the state capital was moved to Lansing in 1847, an improved road was needed to the capital city. - really sounds like a topic sentence...
  • The Lansing–Detroit Plank Road was a toll road until the 1880s. It eventually evolved into the eastern part of the modern Grand River Avenue. - combine
  • Previously motorists - comma after previously
  • Another business owner cited the work the Old Town Commercial Association has done to market the area using the Grand River Avenue name; marketing that would be useless after a name change. - should be a comma, not a semicolon
  • The compromise solution reached in August 2010 was to rename lot 56, where Old Town holds festivals to Cesar Chavez Plaza. - should be a comma after the appositive

Should be a support after these issues are fixed. --Rschen7754 08:07, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All should be done. Imzadi 1979  09:26, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support issues resolved, but noting the few comments above for a future FAC. --Rschen7754 16:03, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spotcheck by TCN7JM[edit]

I will do the spotcheck. TCN7JM 09:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I will be checking 15 sources, the citation numbers are accurate as of this revision. TCN7JM 04:56, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Source 2  Good on V and P
  2. Source 3  Good on V and P
  3. Source 12  Good on V and P
  4. Source 13  Good on V and P
  5. Source 14  Good on V and P
  6. Source 15  Good on V and P
  7. Source 16  Good on V and P
  8. Source 17  Good on V and P
  9. Source 23  Good on V and P
  10. Source 26  Good on V and P
  11. Source 27  Good on V and P
  12. Source 33  Good on V and P
  13. Source 50  Good on V and P
  14. Source 51  Good on V and P
  15. Source 52  Good on V and P

Well, well, well. Flawless. I've no choice but to support. Great job. TCN7JM 04:56, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Promoted - Another fine piece for Michigan! - Floydian τ ¢ 05:06, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.