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Relationship between and [edit]

Let and be ideals of a ring. Is there a relationship between and ? Other than the obvious one ?--AnalysisAlgebra (talk) 01:09, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If the ring is commutative, they have the same radical: . This also means that if P is a prime ideal, then P contains IJ if and only if it contains I∩J. Rckrone (talk) 05:07, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Canonical map[edit]

What is the canonical map from a ring to where ?--AnalysisAlgebra (talk) 05:26, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(p.s. and showing that its kernel is would be nice too...)--AnalysisAlgebra (talk) 05:29, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is a natural inclusion of R in R[x]. R[x] is the ring of polynomials in x with coefficients in R. The elements of R can also be considered polynomials (with degree 0). Then there is a natural surjection from R[x] to R[x]/(ax-1) mapping a polynomial to its equivalence class mod (ax-1). The composition of these two is the canonical map from R to R[x]/(ax-1). Rckrone (talk) 05:54, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Generalization of the Laplacian and partial derivative[edit]

Let be the solution of the steady-state heat equation with
A generalization of repeatedly applying the Laplacian is and it is quite easy to show that this coincides with the regular Laplacian when a is a positive integer, if f is in the Schwartz space ( is the Fourier transform of ).
Show that for positive integer .Widener (talk) 11:07, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Take the Fourier transform of u wrt to the x variables and solve the steady state heat equation: (this has the correct initial conditions in y=0 and boundary conditions at infinity). Apply an inverse Fourier transform and again differentiating enough times under the integral gives . Sławomir Biały (talk) 00:36, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heisenberg Principle Implies Theorem[edit]

Show that the Heisenberg uncertainty principle implies for every in the Schwartz space.
I have a version of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle which states that . I can get the integral on the left hand side of the inequality to but this is a sum instead of a product, and I don't see how you can get the inequality anyway. Widener (talk) 14:57, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your version of Heisenberg is wrong. It should be
So, this is an inequality of the form and you want to show an inequality of the form . You can use the AM-GM inequality. Sławomir Biały (talk) 00:40, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Properties of the generalized Laplacian[edit]

How do you verify smoothness of a vector valued function? In particular, I want to show that the function , where is in the Schwartz class, and real , is smooth.
Also, unlike the standard Laplacian, the function is not necessarily in the Schwartz class if is not an integer. How do you prove this?Widener (talk) 18:56, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Differentiation under the integral sign proves smoothness. Non-Schwartzness follows since the frequency domain representation, , is non-smooth. Sławomir Biały (talk) 22:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, but remember, this is a vector valued function. What exactly do you mean by "differentiation" in this context?
That is to say, x is a vector. Widener (talk) 23:23, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Partial derivative Sławomir Biały (talk) 23:40, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. . Hmm. The partial derivatives commute essentially because multiplication is commutative. Does this prove that these partial derivatives are ? I know the converse is true at least. But do you even know that the integral still converges?Widener (talk) 23:47, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Integral converges because is rapidly decreasing. Sławomir Biały (talk) 00:25, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, of course. Is my logic about the partial derivatives being commutative therefore correct? I know that partial derivatives that are commute, but I don't know if the converse is true. And does that indeed imply that the whole function is smooth? Widener (talk) 00:32, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
BY the way, how do you justify interchanging the partial derivative and the Integral?Widener (talk) 00:54, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That's an argument that requires using dominated convergence theorem. Sławomir Biały (talk) 01:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Also, could you explain the non-Schwartzness in more elementary terms?
Thanks Widener (talk) 23:21, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A function is Schwartz iff it's smooth and its Fourier transform is smooth. Sławomir Biały (talk)|
So, for instance, choosing , is not differentiable at ? Widener (talk) 23:54, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]