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LaTeX arithmetic[edit]

(Not sure which board is most appropriate.) I'm trying to use LaTeX, specifically Kile, to do some basic arithmetic. However, I seem to be stuck right back at the start, as I can't seem to get /multiply to do anything meaningful. Is this the command I want? All I want to do is perform some command on say, "5" and "4" and get "20" or "9" or "1" or whatever, as appropriate. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 15:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused about what you're trying to do. As far as I know, LaTeX is for typesetting, not for computation. You can use
5\cdot4=20
To typeset , but LaTeX isn't supposed to do the calculation itself. If I missed your point completely, can you provide more background? -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 16:42, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was hoping it could basic arithmetic as is suggested by places like this, but I couldn't follow what I needed to do off any of them. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 17:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Yes it can do that. I don't know how... Staecker (talk) 20:27, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK I figured something out. I've never done this before, so I don't know if I'm doing it the right way. Integers can be stored in numbered "count registers". Here I'll define two count registers equal to 2 and 3, then display them, then multiply them and display the product:

\count1=2 
\count2=3
\the\count1 
\the\count2 
\multiply\count1\count2
\the\count1

The displayed output is 236. The registers are displayed using "\the", and "\multiply" overwrites the first register with the product. Staecker (talk) 20:40, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant. Do you happen to know what addition, subtraction, and division will be? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:41, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
/advance is addition, it would seem, and /advance/count1-/count2 (for example) works for subtraction. I can't imagine / is going to work, though, in multiplication. Lucky for me, I don't have to do any. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:48, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
\divide is for division. See wikibooks:TeX/count for this and basically no additional information. Staecker (talk) 22:34, 9 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Make sure to use the backslash \ for LaTeX commands, and not the forward slash /. So it's \count and \multiply and not /count or /multiply. Fly by Night (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting series...[edit]

Dear Wikipedians:

I am trying to find the sum of an interesting series whose general term is:

I realized that the power forms the triangular numbers, and the general term of triangular numbers is , therefore the general term of the interesting series above can be written as:

So at this point it is clear that there is a geometric sequence subcomponent, , to my interesting series. However, I am at a total loss about what to do for the subcomponent, and also about how to separate the two subcomponents so that I could sum each one up individually.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

70.31.155.244 (talk) 16:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there's a closed-form expression for the sum up to a finite term. For the infinite sum, Mathematica gives the result (assuming I'm reading it correctly) (see Theta function) which is 1.371759117358... . I have no idea how to arrive at this result. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you'll be able to separate the two parts you're talking about. Note also that n2 + n is always even, so your exponent is always an integer. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:39, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article titled theta function says this:

There you see a sum of two terms in the exponent, in which one is a constant times n2 and the other is a constant times n, just as in your series. So we would want

Recall that that

So

So we want

This will hold if the coefficients of n2 and n agree. Thus we need

and

So

and

But you probably intended your series to run from 0 to ∞ rather than from −∞ to ∞, so mutatis mutandis....

To be continued...... Michael Hardy (talk) 17:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC) So[reply]

To be continued.... Michael Hardy (talk) 17:22, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To be continued.... Michael Hardy (talk) 21:04, 8 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Michael, and so that
and the final result is
Bo Jacoby (talk) 14:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Or even simpler:
Bo Jacoby (talk) 07:37, 11 May 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks to everyone for your contribution. Now I know that the series in question cannot possibly have any closed form expressions using elementary functions and their combinations/compositions thereof. L33th4x0r (talk) 17:15, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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