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November 16

Help with Dutch language source

I need some help with a Dutch-language reference - https://www.delpher.nl/. I know it is similar to Newspapers.com but the main thing is I don't understand Dutch. The previous (now blocked) editor who found these references didn't translate the titles or the content of the articles. If someone with the technical & Dutch-language know-how could take a look at User:Shearonink/Gerard van Beek and translate the blurbs or articles (including the titles) and then adjust Refs 2/3/4 & 6 to Wikipedia Cite web standards, and then explain what they did over on my user talk I would be ever so grateful. If all that is too much - I know this is a big ask - maybe you could translate all the needed bits on my user talk and I could take over the Cite web clean-up. The article needs to have its references adjusted before I transfer it to mainspace. I am stumped on how to best craft the references since I'm not even sure what the titles of the articles are or what the names of the newspapers are or what the articles/blurbs state. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 20:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

My Dutch is pretty rusty, and partly just guesstimating from similar words in German, English or Scandinavian, but if I understand the source [1] correctly, Gerard van Beek did indeed compete in the 1948 Tour De France. (If you could copy the text, you could probably get the gist through web translation, though.) 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 02:59, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

But are actual titles really meant to be translated on Wikipedia, by the way? Shouldn't they be cited as they are? 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 03:00, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Perhaps the wonderful native Dutch speaking and very active editor Drmies might have something to say about this. I know only about seven words of Dutch, six of which he taught me. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:09, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Cullen328. That newspaper article from De Zaanlander--well, de Zaanstreek is the area where I grew up. On that page, right column, is the cheesiest of poems, about how one can spend a nice vacation or a summer day, and the poet's favorite is to drive a little boat through the Westzijderveld--there is no article for that, but Zaanse Schans is on the edge of it. The poet talks about the windmills that brought wealth and fame to the area, that you can still see the foundations of some of them, etc.--and of course that's the same place where I once rowed around with a certain other young person, in a little boat, with a bottle of champagne, and then made out in her father's windmill. Yes sir. Drmies (talk) 04:16, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

That reminds me, Drmies, of the rock festivals of the greater Detroit area in the very late 1960s and the very early 1970s, when things seemed simple and gorgeous. Then, I came to Northern California where things were more complex since I was growing up. And here I remain, after 49 years. Lazy, I guess. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:48, 17 November 2021 (UTC)