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restaurant and marina near airplane crash site[edit]

I'm trying to figure out the name of a restaurant and connecting marina. It's located on Long Island, New York, near the TWA Flight 800 crash site. Could anyone help me figure out what I'm referring to please? Thank you.2603:7000:8106:C149:78D4:457E:B241:48B0 (talk) 05:27, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In Google Maps, I went to the crash coordinates given in the Wikipedia article and searched on "marina". One of the closest hits was the Atlantic Cove Marina, about 11 miles from the crash position, and I found the Coral Restaurant (or Coral Tapas and Wine Bar) adjacent. --174.94.31.124 (talk) 06:45, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Amount of French speaker in France at the times of the Revolution and 1870s?[edit]

At the time of the French Revolution, what estimated percentage of the French population spoke French as their native language and what estimated percentage could at least understand it? What about during the late 19th century around 1870s just prior to the educational reform campaign of Jules Ferry? StellarHalo (talk) 08:45, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Define "French." Are you contrasting it with languages like Basque and Breton, or are you contrasting it with Provencal and Corsican too? 74.98.192.38 (talk) 15:06, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@StellarHalo: If you read French: fr:Français#Enseignement du français en France:
Jusqu'à la fin du XVIIIe siècle, les élèves de France apprennent toujours à lire en latin, qui a toujours le statut de langue de transmission du savoir. Le français est enseigné de manière rudimentaire : simples notions d'orthographe et de grammaire. De plus, les classes se déroulent toujours en dialecte local afin de se faire comprendre des élèves, car ces dialectes sont toujours utilisés comme langue courante en France.
Dans son rapport112 de juin 1794, l'abbé Grégoire révéla que le français était uniquement et « exclusivement » parlé dans « environ 15 départements » (sur 83). Il lui paraissait paradoxal, et pour le moins insupportable, de constater que moins de 3 millions de Français sur 28 parlaient la langue nationale, alors que sur le territoire de la Nouvelle-France, celle-ci était utilisée et unifiée depuis plus de 100 ans de Bâton-Rouge à Montréal113
En 1863, d'après une enquête lancée par Victor Duruy, 8 381 communes sur 37 510, environ le quart de la population rurale ne parlait pas français118.
Pourtant en 1863, sur 38 millions de Français, 7,5 millions ne connaissaient pas la « langue nationale ». D'après les témoignages de l'époque, les enfants des villages ne retenaient presque rien du français appris à l'école, celui-ci « ne laisse pas plus de trace que le latin n'en laisse à la plupart des élèves sortis des collèges ». Les élèves reparlent leur patois à la maison.
The numbers intruding in my copied text are references in fr.WP.
--Error (talk) 16:07, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Quick translation without assistance:
Up to the end of the 18th century, students/pupils in France always learned to read Latin, which always had the status of the language used to transmit knowledge. French was taught in a rudimentary manner: simple ideas of spelling and grammar. Also, classes were always conducted in the local dialect so that the students would understand them, as these dialects were always used for everyday language in France.
In his report of June 1794, Abbot Gregory revealed that French was uniquely and "exclusively" spoken in "about 15 departments" (out of 83). It seemed paradoxical and unsupportable to him to state that less than 3 million out of 28 million French people spoke the national language, even though in New France, it had been in unified use for over 100 years from Baton Rouge to Montreal.
In 1863, according to an inquiry started by Victor Duruy, 8,381 out of 37,510 communes, or about a quarter of the rural population, did not speak French.
Also in 1863, out of 38 million French people, 7.5 million did not know the "national language". According to testimony of the period, children from villages remembered almost nothing of the French they learned in school, which "left no more trace on them than Latin left on the majority of students leaving college." At home the students spoke their patois (dialect).
--174.94.31.124 (talk) 23:23, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

U.K. BUNKER HUNTER (looking for ROC observation posts)[edit]

I’m looking for a comprehensive list of ROC (Royal Observeor Corps) bunkers/observation posts because I can’t seem to find a comprehensive list.

I know one can drive on a motorway and expect to see them on the side of the road but one may not have Time for this.

I know multiple sites show nuke bunkers in London and would be appreciative if someone could get that too me!

Assuming you're interested in Cold War facilities, Nuclear Monitoring Posts from www.subbrit.org.uk seems to be the best fit. Alansplodge (talk) 18:37, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A way to access German army records[edit]

I have a great grandpa who fought in WW2, I know everything but his operating number, how would I go about getting all of the search done without this?

I don’t want to use third party sites that you pay for I would appreciate if someone could tell me a way to do this on the bundeswher website!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a01:4c8:1090:3178:ec46:8bda:e5e9:81eb (talkcontribs)

I'm not sure any of this is online, but the institution in charge of those archival materials is the Bundesarchiv-Militärarchiv of the German Federal Archives in Freiburg (http://www.bundesarchiv.de). You'd have to contact them, but I wouldn't expect individual soldiers' records could easily be researched online. Fut.Perf. 14:07, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Finding German World War II Service Records has more details about obtaining records from the Bundesarchiv and other sources. Alansplodge (talk) 18:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]