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July 12[edit]

The ABC of Chairmanship, Walter Citrine[edit]

Does anyone know if Walter Citrine says anything about votes of no confidence in The ABC of Chairmanship? DuncanHill (talk) 10:48, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is getyourshare.ca a phishing site?[edit]

Is getyourshare.ca[1] a phishing site or a legitimate website? I've heard of banks offering sign up bonuses of $10 or $20, but $200 sounds way too high. And this site isn't even a bank or a credit union, but instead just direct you to other credit unions, which adds to the fishiness. If credit unions were indeed offering $200 sign up bonuses then they would at least advertise it on their own sites. Crudiv1 (talk) 15:07, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It seems legit. From what I can tell, it's a promotion put on by Central 1, a trade association for credit unions in British Columbia and Ontario. clpo13_(talk) 15:19, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Were the Zhou dynasty ethnically different from Shang dynasty[edit]

Were the Zhou dynasty ethnically different from Shang dynasty? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C6:4000:609E:CDD7:2F72:5DCC:640B (talk) 21:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Zhou dynasty c. 1046 BC–256 BC followed directly after the Shang dynasty c. 1600 BC–c. 1046 BC. The aforementioned articles mention that many Shang clans migrated northeast after the dynasty's collapse. A legend says a disgruntled Shang prince named Jizi left China with a small army and founded a state known as Gija Joseon in northwest Korea. AllBestFaith (talk) 00:01, 13 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

According to modern historiography, at the time of the early Shang the ancestors of the Zhou rulers lived in Ban, in modern Shaanxi. Where the Shang came from is debated, but generally regarded as being in modern Henan province. There is some distance between the two, and it is generally accepted that they were different tribes. During the Shang dynasty, the Zhou tribe was by all indications only a loose vassal of the Shang. Whether they are different ethnic groups in any modern sense is debated and possibly not possible to answer with certainty, given limitations in how much we can learn from linguistic and archaeological evidence available. If you delve deeper you'll see plenty of debate and lots of theories in this field - there is even debate about whether the late Shang rulers were more Turkic than the early Shang rulers and therefore ethnically different. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 10:18, 13 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]