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Are there Sith Jedi?[edit]
I mean Force adepts like the Jedi Order, but on the Dark side, and not counting the two Sith lords at the top. I saw the first few movies but am not versed in this stuff. Thanks. 2601:644:8501:AAF0:DC2F:54F8:9B31:AE51 (talk) 02:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes: by definition, Sith and Jedi both use the same 'Force', but broadly Sith use it for
goodevil and Jedi forevilgood. Some may change sides. See the article Sith for details. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.186.221 (talk) 05:25, 17 March 2024 (UTC)- Thanks, that helps some. It says there was historically a Sith order, but Darth Bane instituted the rule of having just two Sith at a time. So I guess my question really is whether the Sith lords have any other Force adepts working for them, or just "muggles" (regular folks like Moff Tarkin, without Force abilities). If yes, any idea how many? It's ok if the other adepts aren't officially called Sith as long as they are Dark and serve the Sith Lords. That would include e.g. doing special ops for the Empire by the time Darth Sidious is running it. Thanks again. 2601:644:8501:AAF0:DC2F:54F8:9B31:AE51 (talk) 06:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Jedi are good, Sith are evil, not the other way round (unless you're a MAGA Republican). Clarityfiend (talk) 07:40, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- D'oh! Corrected. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.213.188.170 (talk) 04:27, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Jedi are good, Sith are evil, not the other way round (unless you're a MAGA Republican). Clarityfiend (talk) 07:40, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, that helps some. It says there was historically a Sith order, but Darth Bane instituted the rule of having just two Sith at a time. So I guess my question really is whether the Sith lords have any other Force adepts working for them, or just "muggles" (regular folks like Moff Tarkin, without Force abilities). If yes, any idea how many? It's ok if the other adepts aren't officially called Sith as long as they are Dark and serve the Sith Lords. That would include e.g. doing special ops for the Empire by the time Darth Sidious is running it. Thanks again. 2601:644:8501:AAF0:DC2F:54F8:9B31:AE51 (talk) 06:31, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- According to the section Sith § Timeline, "At an unknown point in time, numerous Jedi become disillusioned with the Jedi Order and exile themselves, forming the Sith Order." In the non-canonical Tales of the Jedi the break-away faction are called "Dark Jedi" and exiled by force. "Sith" was originally a name for the native species of the planet they settled on; after subjugating them, the head-honcho Dark Jedi proclaimed himself "Dark Lord of the Sith". Again, this is not canon. --Lambiam 23:50, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'm mostly interested in the timeframe of the movies, let's say during the lifespan of Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader. In that era there were two Sith lords at any given moment. Of course the Sith lords had various underlings piloting their spaceships or whatever. I'm trying to find out if any of those underlings were Force adepts, maybe to counterbalance the Jedi, so it's not 2 against N. Any idea? 174.160.238.145 (talk) 03:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Star Wars franchise is extensive – very extensive; you would need to read, listen and watch through the relevent canonical print books, audio books, radio adaptations, comics, and films to find out. Perhaps someone reading this thread has and will respond, or perhaps you can adopt this as a hobby for the next couple of years. {The poster formerly known nas 87.81.230.195} 90.213.188.170 (talk) 04:37, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Well I thought maybe it would be an important matter in the saga, ion which case someone would know about it. Oh well. I see in Count Dooku's biography that he had several Sith apprentices, maybe before becoming Darth Tyranus, the junior Sith lord. So that sounds roughly parallel to the Jedi order. That helps. 174.160.238.145 (talk) 05:57, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- The Star Wars franchise is extensive – very extensive; you would need to read, listen and watch through the relevent canonical print books, audio books, radio adaptations, comics, and films to find out. Perhaps someone reading this thread has and will respond, or perhaps you can adopt this as a hobby for the next couple of years. {The poster formerly known nas 87.81.230.195} 90.213.188.170 (talk) 04:37, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'm mostly interested in the timeframe of the movies, let's say during the lifespan of Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader. In that era there were two Sith lords at any given moment. Of course the Sith lords had various underlings piloting their spaceships or whatever. I'm trying to find out if any of those underlings were Force adepts, maybe to counterbalance the Jedi, so it's not 2 against N. Any idea? 174.160.238.145 (talk) 03:29, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
- Wookieepedia is likely to be a more comprehensive encyclopedia than Wikipedia on this kind of thing. For example, it has an article on the Imperial Guard, which states that some of them were "Force sensitive". AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 13:10, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes the Sith Lords do have "other Force adepts working for them". Asajj Ventress is an example. Staecker (talk) 19:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, there are force adepts working for the Sith. The inquisitors are good examples. Industrial Insect (talk) 18:36, 27 March 2024 (UTC)