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October 7[edit]

How does a movie become tagged everywhere on the Internet with a patently incorrect description?[edit]

I just watched a terrible movie, The Banana Splits Movie (2019), that has this associated description when I pulled it up on Spectrum on Demand:

"A maniac dressed in a dog costume wreaks bloody havoc during the taping of a popular children's television show".

After I watched it, I went to Rottentomatoes to see what this piece of garbage got rated, was gobsmacked to see 63% there, but was more shocked to see under "Movie Info" the identical description—which is is completely incorrect. The movie is about four robots (gorilla, elephant, lion and dog) that populate a children's show (i.e., only one of them is a dog), that after the show gets cancelled, terrorize the attendees for the last taping of the show after the four of them learn of that cancellation. So, not singular, not "maniac[s]" (implying human[s]), not "dressed" in "a" dog "costume". The description, word for word, populates numerous official corners of the Internet--e.g., per Google, also at TV Guide, SYFY; Apple TV, DirecTV; Fandom; Roku; Tivo – and on and on. How does a movie get an apparent official description attached to it that's not just subtly wrong but grossly incorrect, and have it parroted everywhere, without correction? Your article's description, by the way, supports this, but gets it wrong in one aspect, saying they are "animatronic characters", rather than robots (as the the film makes fairly clear, they receive a software update but have their own electronic brains and are self-directing—so not merely animatronic puppets with their actions being directed from some remove as they act).--2603:7000:8841:7600:CCF5:5C06:42B0:1FEB (talk) 03:39, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever wrote the description on wikipedia probably actually watched it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:03, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The description is not present on Wikipedia itself. It is the text of the Movie Info section for this film on Rotten Tomatoes.^[1] The carnage does not occur during the taping of the television show – it has been cancelled. There is not just one "maniac" – all four robots go berserk and engage in the killing spree. If whoever wrote this faulty description actually watched the film, they must have been smoking something. --Lambiam 07:14, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The term animatronics is only loosely defined. As used in this news story: "Kid-friendly Westworld? Disney leveling up park animatronics with new breed of free-roaming robots", it does not exclude a certain amount of autonomy. --Lambiam 07:28, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on'" Matt Deres (talk) 03:51, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Musicology?[edit]

Hi refdeskers, so "dominant-tonic juxtoposition" is significant to harmony somehow, but could anyone explain precisely what it means to a layman? If a simple 'translation', perhaps with a couple of refs, is possible, that'd be grand. I'm afraid the Harmony article did not really help me, while T1 doesn't even get a mention on an other wise long disambig. page. Thanks in advance! Happy weekend all. Serial 16:33, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know where to start. Are you familiar with the concepts of chord and chord progression? "Juxtaposition" of two things just means they occur immediately next to each other, so in this case a dominant chord (usually V) is immediately preceded or followed by a tonic chord (usually I). The first image in Chord progression shows an occurrence of V–I. In List of chord progressions you can find examples of both I–V and V–I. Why it is important is another story: it establishes the tonality, also known as key. Most classical music pieces in traditional harmony conclude in a progression V–I. --Lambiam 06:52, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

For a sophisticated presentation of the dominant—tonic juxtaposition, Tl, we turn to the comic song ^{[clarification needed]} by ^{[according to whom?]}, whose elevation (at 1'28—31 of 2'41 total: 55 per cent) is used to illustrate the Welsh at the line 'he sings far too loud, far too often, and flae. While the word 'flat' suggests a downward shift, the key in fact rises Tl from Bb major to B major. The melodic line over F7 is, as heard previously in the track (at 0.40—2), A leading to C through Bb as passing note and BÅ as chromatic passing note (CPN in the example). But now the BS is excruciatingly held (for 'and flay), under which the piano plays the familiar melody 'Oh du lieber Augustin', starting with and in B, and the music continues in B major (See Example 5).

Thanks Lambian, that is useful, thanks, and being directed to the right articles was a great help. Here's the orioiginal; quote I was asking about. Perhaps I should have put it up earlier if specifics would have helped you–apologies for that! Serial 13:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The song is 'A Song of Patriotic Prejudice' by Flanders and Swann. DuncanHill (talk) 23:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The text in the box suffers from scannos. The quoted line should be 'he sings far too loud, far too often, and flat', while the parenthesis (for 'and flay) should be (for 'and flat'). "Bb" is obviously B♭. Less obviously, "BÅ" and "BS" are both B♮. Finally, in the last sentence something is missing: "starting with and in B" should be starting with F♯ and in B. --Lambiam 09:12, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I like "scannos" Whether or not you just coined it, I'm stealing it! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.220.114.13 (talk) 18:52, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Entry on Wiktionary: scanno. --Lambiam 02:53, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The text seems to come from this article. --Wrongfilter (talk) 10:03, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have not seen the notation "T1" before, but this is how it is used in this context. We can assign a number from

\mathbb {Z} /12\mathbb {Z}

to a note by numbering (say) A as 0 and increasing the value by 1 for each semitone step up on the chromatic scale, so A♯ and B♭ are both 1, B is 2, and so on until 11 for G♯ and A♭, after which the circle is round. Let the tonic of key

{\text{X}}

be assigned value

x

and that of key

{\text{Y}}

be assigned value

y,

and let

z\equiv y-x~~({\text{mod}}~12).

A modulation from

{\text{X}}

to

{\text{Y}}

is then called a T

z

modulation. For

{\text{X}}=

B♭ and

{\text{Y}}=

B, we have

x=1,

y=2

and

z=1,

so the modulation from B♭ to B is a T1 modulation. In the opposite direction it becomes a T11 modulation. --Lambiam 09:46, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On your talk now, Lambian. Congratulations on other parties knowing how to ctrl/f :p thanks everyone! Serial 10:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]