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Help me find a video![edit]
I saw a win/fail compilation video on Facebook, the kind where someone does something awesome and then someone else does the same thing and royally screws up. The very first clip pair if I remember correctly was the basketball beer challenge (I.e. dropping a beer on a basketball and catching it and drinking). The “win” was this high production value clip of a younger guy leaving a house and all while in motion dropping a beer on a ball, catching it, tearing the cap off, and taking a swig. Super suave. It almost looks like it might have been from a music video or something. That clip or that full video or anything pertaining to it is what I’m looking for, but I can’t for the life of me relocate the original compilation.
Other fails from that compilation are a woman tripping and falling face first into a pool, and a guy throwing a beer to his buddy in a boat and it konking him in the noggin. Lol! Maybe that helps.
If anyone can help me, would be greatly appreciated!! Jared (t) 03:29, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Facebook has recently added a new way to look for recent posts you've already looked at so you can find them again. If you're working on the mobile (android) version, there is a menu that will appear on the top of the screen while you are scrolling that says "Home - Recent - Seen". If you click "Seen" it will bring up recent posts you've looked at. Perhaps that will help you find it again. As far as the functionality on other operating systems/platforms I don't know if this has been changed on those, but that's my best idea for how to find it again. Good luck! --Jayron32 12:40, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- For clarity while this functionality may be new, you've been able to look at the videos you've watched on a Facebook account for many years now. Since at least 2016, it's been part of the activity log [1]. (The activity log should be under settings & privacy. You probably need to click on filter to find the "Videos you've watched" filter now.) This post suggests it was somewhere else since at least 2015 [2] unfortunately it's been updated since then and I can't find an archive and my searches failed to uncovered where or earlier evidence. I have the vague idea I may have checked out watched videos back in 2012 but I'm not certain. Nil Einne (talk) 00:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! I actually figured that out and did a complete search (twice!) before posting here but the history only went back a few weeks, not sure if it was capped at number of videos or at time period. I think the video I’m looking for I watched a little over a month ago. Appreciate the suggestion though! Jared (t) 01:28, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
@Jared: Are you sure your browser didn't just break or you didn't wait long enough for it to load after scrolling or something? (I assume you gathered that this is one of those infinitely scrolling pages?) Note that the filter for the activity log also allows you to filter by date (year and month on the browser on a desktop, range on the app) if you're having problems of your browser not being able to cope with a long list.
Anyway, I'm not convinced there is any limit to watched videos in the activity log. This is Facebook after all a data mining company and even with all the controversy they got in to, and EU regulation etc, I find it unlikely there is much of a limit. (And keeping a record but hiding it from you seems likely to be worse for them.) And even if there is a limit, a few weeks sounds a very, very short limit. Unless you managed to watch 5k videos in that time or something. (Definitely Youtube doesn't seem to have a limit, if they do it's something extremely massive.)
My watched videos goes back 21 May 2015. To be fair, this is long after my account creation but I think this most likely is because the feature only started sometime in 2015 or maybe 2012-2014. I don't use Facebook that much and especially not for videos so can't be sure I watched a video in 2015 (but I do think I probably did see some in 2012 as a I was a bit more active for a while then). The number of videos is 624 (and odd number for a limit and the last/earliest video didn't change even when I "watched" a bunch more to test (it was 608).
Another reason I think you may be mistaken, even if you did watch 5k or even 1k or something which did reach a limit, how did you analyse all your watched videos? Did you use a script or something? Because even with my 624 over several years, if I did want to search all of them but had absolutely no idea when I watched it, I don't know if I'd bother without a script. While the video might be there, as they don't even show the title and just show that tiny screenshot thing, working out what it is is likely to be difficult.
BTW, while testing, I did find out that Facebook only records a video as watched if it's 75% or something, compare to Youtube's history which seems to record a video much more readily. (Even if you aren't counted in the number of views.) Also again unlike Youtube, Facebook seems to only show a video in the log once. If you watch it again, it will remove it from the earlier date.
- Thanks! I actually figured that out and did a complete search (twice!) before posting here but the history only went back a few weeks, not sure if it was capped at number of videos or at time period. I think the video I’m looking for I watched a little over a month ago. Appreciate the suggestion though! Jared (t) 01:28, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- For clarity while this functionality may be new, you've been able to look at the videos you've watched on a Facebook account for many years now. Since at least 2016, it's been part of the activity log [1]. (The activity log should be under settings & privacy. You probably need to click on filter to find the "Videos you've watched" filter now.) This post suggests it was somewhere else since at least 2015 [2] unfortunately it's been updated since then and I can't find an archive and my searches failed to uncovered where or earlier evidence. I have the vague idea I may have checked out watched videos back in 2012 but I'm not certain. Nil Einne (talk) 00:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Song- The Lovely Northern Lass[edit]
Wikipedia search shows no result for the song "The Lovely Northern Lass" but I have a recording of it, sung by an unknown singer & I have discovered the lyrics elsewhere*. It is apparently a very old song about an innocent maid who suffered as a result of the beguiling charms of a young man & is sung to a haunting Scottish tune called "The broom of Cowden Knowes" I only raise the query because it would be a shame if the song & especially the tune were to disappear completely & Wikipedia might be able to help keep it from being lost. I tried to upload a copy of the lyrics but seem to have been prevented by copyright concerns, even though the web site I copied it from had copied it from a University of Glasgow source which had itself copied the page from a version printed for Fr Coles of the Old Bayly [sic] [Date unknown]. How many centuries does copyright last?
Egregious Guern — Preceding unsigned comment added by Egregious Guern (talk • contribs) 22:46, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- To answer your question regarding copyright - please see: Public domain music. "In the United States, any musical works published in 1924 or earlier, in addition to those voluntarily placed in public domain, exist in the public domain. In most other countries, music generally enters the public domain in a period of fifty to seventy-five years after the composer's death." Maineartists (talk) 01:55, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, but he's talking about the text of the song, not a particular recording. It's hard to believe that the lyrics of a centuries-old folk song are protected by any kind of copyright. In answer to the OP's other query: we can only have a Wikipedia article about this song if you can prove it's notable, i.e. has already been written about in reliable sources such as newspapers, journals and books. If you can find such sources, go ahead and start the article. --Viennese Waltz 07:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- This isn't legal advice. But the centuries old lyrics are unlikely to be. The lyrics of a specific modern recording may be in part. Any creative elements of a modern or semi modern interpretation, including lyrical changes may be eligible for copyright protection. The details in the link above don't really give us much to go on for those particular lyrics. But this does provide info on certain sets of lyrics [3]. Nil Einne (talk) 06:37, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, but he's talking about the text of the song, not a particular recording. It's hard to believe that the lyrics of a centuries-old folk song are protected by any kind of copyright. In answer to the OP's other query: we can only have a Wikipedia article about this song if you can prove it's notable, i.e. has already been written about in reliable sources such as newspapers, journals and books. If you can find such sources, go ahead and start the article. --Viennese Waltz 07:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)