Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Hayley Westenra/1
Hayley Westenra[edit]
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- Result: Delist Clear issues here. I think 2007 is too long ago to revert back to, but it could be a good base to build this article up again if anyone desires AIRcorn (talk) 08:32, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Fails WP:GAFAIL 3. Pinging @Drmies: who added the tags and pruned content, and also @Nerd271: who also pruned some content. FoxyGrampa75 (talk) 01:15, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- It is going to take a lot of work to get this to GA level: the article is just littered with promotional and semi-promotional stuff, including trivia and fluff, and the sourcing is really below par for much of the content. Go through the history and you will find the COI--maybe restoring the version before that is a good start, but that's very drastic. Maybe. Drmies (talk) 01:40, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- See this edit, for instance, by User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, and I see they reverted such edits back in 2011 already. No, Eastenra did this article no favor with edits like this--and I see that I tagged it in 2011 as well; Eastenra reverted right after; they should never return to the article. Now, this is the version that got promoted; this was reviewed later in 2007, and this is the version that was reviewed and kept in 2009. But none of these really impress me; I do not think they'd stand as GA today. And this review, Talk:Hayley Westenra/GA1, no. I'm hoping some more people will look at these three versions, and maybe I'm too harsh on them--but today's version is certainly not a GA. Drmies (talk) 02:00, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- It is understandable that what was acceptable as for the Good Article status is no longer so today. Standards can and do change over time. Any case, more work is needed before we can reinstate its former status. We should take our time. By the way, I did a bit of digging and found she has suffered because of her fame. That's another reason for being careful what we include. Nerd271 (talk) 02:16, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- See this edit, for instance, by User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz, and I see they reverted such edits back in 2011 already. No, Eastenra did this article no favor with edits like this--and I see that I tagged it in 2011 as well; Eastenra reverted right after; they should never return to the article. Now, this is the version that got promoted; this was reviewed later in 2007, and this is the version that was reviewed and kept in 2009. But none of these really impress me; I do not think they'd stand as GA today. And this review, Talk:Hayley Westenra/GA1, no. I'm hoping some more people will look at these three versions, and maybe I'm too harsh on them--but today's version is certainly not a GA. Drmies (talk) 02:00, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- Going back to the version some time in 2007 before a user who clearly was overly enthusiastic about this singer is not an entirely bad idea. There is no need to restore that version, however, as we can use it to get a feel of what this article was like before someone dropped a ton of unsuitable content. I agree with Drmies that more reliable sources are needed. Nerd271 (talk) 01:46, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
- FoxyGrampa75, I think you should go ahead and yank this GA symbol. The article is atrocious, and I don't see anyone bringing this up to GA standards. Drmies (talk) 02:54, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
- FoxyGrampa75, if you'd opened this as an individual reassessment, Drmies would be right. However, since this is a community reassessment and you opened it, you cannot close it; that needs an independent closer. And there needs to be a few people giving their opinion that the article needs to be delisted. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:40, 7 October 2019 (UTC)