Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Siegfried

Siegfried[edit]

This is a piece from Siegfried, the third of Richard Wagner's four operas that make up Der Ring des Nibelungen.

The funeral march and finale from Siegfried.

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These are major pieces from one of four operas composed by Richard Wagner to make up the Der Ring des Nibelungen. These files significantly enhance the following articles:

Nominate and support. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:59, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose The 20-minute Siegfried Fantasie is a pastiche. It's not from the opera. Possibly arranged by Arthur Seidel [1]. Not Wagner. The 10-minute Siegfried Funeral March and Finale is an arrangement commonly played in the concert hall — not the opera house obviously — though in this case without a full orchestra. The music is not from Siegfried but from Götterdämmerung. These files do not significantly enhance the articles they have been placed in — the reverse is true! --Klein zach 07:43, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Why would Siegfried Fantasie be on the album it is on (Music of Richard Wagner) if it is not by Wagner? Are you sure. I am not a classical music buff. Feel free to move files to articles you think they belong in and remove them as necessary. Just let me know what you are doing. You sound like you might know how to make it complement Götterdämmerung.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:16, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes, I am sure. Arrangements are commonly made of music to fit new situations — in this case a brass band. Pastiches are also common — joining up pieces of music that were written separately. The music here is representative of brass band music, rather than Wagner. --Klein zach 11:00, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose As Kleinzach has pointed out, one of these is mislabelled (it's from Gotterdammerung) and the other isn't actually from Siegfried but is a mashup of themes from the opera. On top of that, they are not in the original instrumentation. I think that to suggest they are "major pieces" from the operas is therefore misleading - you might as well claim that my famed kazoo renditions of Tristan und Isolde represent major excerpts from that opera :-). We do have a real need for excerpts from all the Wagner operas in Wikipedia, but I don't think these help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dogbertd (talk • contribs)
- Nomination withdrawn.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:10, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]