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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was removed 20:29, 15 March 2008.
List of Planetes episodes[edit]
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: Open 26 days, Significant issues not addressed. Delisted -- Scorpion0422 20:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is almost no lead to this list at all, and the episode summaries are too short, being more teaser than summary. Collectonian (talk)
- I agree that the lead is too short, but generally the plot summaries for these anime related lists aren't that long. Perhaps another sentence could be added to each. -- Scorpion0422 18:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The episode summaries are supposed to be thorough. These are not, they are teasers, many no different from what you'd see in the TV guide listing for the episode. Collectonian (talk) 18:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there a general television episode guideline for how long a summary should be? If enough of these lists have gone to FL, surely someone's distilled a rule-of-thumb, so that people don't have to guess at these things. Also, it'd be good to have something that could be propagated to descendent Wikiprojects (like the Anime project). —Quasirandom (talk) 22:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There is a rule-of-thumb, of a sort, of 1-2 sentences per 10 minutes of show, so for a standard anime episode, there should be about 3-6 sentences. However, the guidelines regarding plot also note it should be thorough enough to cover all major plot points, and should not be a teaser. I agree, the TV project has really fallen down on the issue, despite our having many more episode lists going to FL now. This particular one was promoted almost two years ago, and the view may have changed since then on what constitutes completeness. It no longer meets completeness when we compare it to our recent FLs. If the TV project is doing anything, I think the Anime and Manga project has enough FLs now that we could expand our own MOS to cover episode lists, but that's probably a discussion to bring up in the project :) Collectonian (talk) 00:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As a descendent project of TV, Anime should follow the parent's guidelines unless there is compelling reason. Do you know where the TV project's guideline is documented? I'm apparently blind this morning. —Quasirandom (talk) 18:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That's part of the problem, it really isn't and my several attempts to prod the project into clearing it up have gone unanswered. While we should follow some TV guidance, in the absence of any existing guidelines beyond vague notions brought up in FL discussions or if you ask in the project talk page, I think we can/should take the initiative and make our own. Then maybe the TV project will pick it up as well. :P —Preceding unsigned comment added by Collectonian (talk • contribs) 19:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- As a descendent project of TV, Anime should follow the parent's guidelines unless there is compelling reason. Do you know where the TV project's guideline is documented? I'm apparently blind this morning. —Quasirandom (talk) 18:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- There is a rule-of-thumb, of a sort, of 1-2 sentences per 10 minutes of show, so for a standard anime episode, there should be about 3-6 sentences. However, the guidelines regarding plot also note it should be thorough enough to cover all major plot points, and should not be a teaser. I agree, the TV project has really fallen down on the issue, despite our having many more episode lists going to FL now. This particular one was promoted almost two years ago, and the view may have changed since then on what constitutes completeness. It no longer meets completeness when we compare it to our recent FLs. If the TV project is doing anything, I think the Anime and Manga project has enough FLs now that we could expand our own MOS to cover episode lists, but that's probably a discussion to bring up in the project :) Collectonian (talk) 00:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Is there a general television episode guideline for how long a summary should be? If enough of these lists have gone to FL, surely someone's distilled a rule-of-thumb, so that people don't have to guess at these things. Also, it'd be good to have something that could be propagated to descendent Wikiprojects (like the Anime project). —Quasirandom (talk) 22:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The episode summaries are supposed to be thorough. These are not, they are teasers, many no different from what you'd see in the TV guide listing for the episode. Collectonian (talk) 18:18, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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