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National Film Award for Best Direction[edit]

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Nominator(s): Yashthepunisher (talk) 09:44, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My second National Film Award nomination. I feel its a well written and well sourced list worthy of promotion. As always, all the constructive comments and feedbacks are welcomed. Yashthepunisher (talk) 09:44, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Jmnbqb (talk) 20:33, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments from Jmnbqb
Done
  • Is there a reason for the "/-" in the infobox after the reward?
Removed
  • I believe recipient should be plural in "Ray and Adoor Gopalakrishnan are the most frequent recipient..."
Done
  • Run-on sentence: " Mrinal Sen has been awarded four times, he is also the only..."
Split
  • As of what year is "The most recent recipient is Rajesh Mapuskar..." referring to?
Mentioned
  • Why is there a key? The reason for the year can be explained in the lead. Plus it's just explained again in the table header note.
Removed
  • Not sure if first names are surnames with Indians, but if not sort by last name per WP:NAMESORT. If first names are surnames, switch lead paragraph to refer to Satyajit Ray as Satyajit after his mention.
The first names are not surnames in India.
  • Can you redo the sizing of the table or add more pictures? There's a lot of white space.
I don't see any issue with that. I have modelled it on the existing National Film Award FLs.
  • There seems to only be one language in each entry, so change language(s) to language
Done
  • Change Refs to Ref
Done
  • Why does the table title include showing "role(s)" when the table has "recipient(s)"?
Fixed
  • In note A, "till" should be "until"
Done
  • Remove capitalization in "The" in Note B
Done
  • Reference 26 needs to be reformatted
Replaced

Overall good job! If you get time, I could use a review on one of my listed FLCs. Jmnbqb (talk) 13:41, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jmnbqb Thanks for your comments, I have hopefully resolved them all. I will review your nominations soon. Yashthepunisher (talk) 17:10, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yashthepunisher Couple things still. The names still need to be sorted by last name and there's still a redundancy with having a note and a key saying the same thing. Also you have a new problem with not having an MOS:ENDASH in your infobox date range. Jmnbqb (talk) 17:21, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Jmnbqb All done this time, hopefully. Please have a look. Yashthepunisher (talk) 14:31, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – Also need to add alt text to images per MOS:ACCESS. Other than that looks good! Jmnbqb (talk) 20:33, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments and support. Yashthepunisher (talk) 06:10, 15 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from BeatlesLedTV (talk) 14:44, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments from BeatlesLedTV
  • "Satyajit Ray has won the honour maximum number of times, six." – shouldn't it be "honor THE maximum"? I also think "with six" would read better than just "six".
Tweaked.
  • I think the year & ref cols would look better centered
Hope its fine now.
Fixed it.
  • The infobox subheader looks weird. It and the "awarded for" basically say the same thing
Removed
  • With the year col, you seem to have the years represent the year of film the ceremony represents rather than the year the ceremony takes place. I think the years should mark when the ceremonies take place, especially since the lead says "as of 2017" while the table and infobox both say it was last awarded in 2016. Just seems a little inconsistent. (I'm also sure other award lists mark the year of the ceremony rather than the year in film)
Tweaked the lead sentence. Actually most of the existing NFA FLs use the same format. The emphasis is on the "year" the event happens.
  • Table heading doesn't need a period
Removed.
Replaced.

Looks good. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 22:28, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BeatlesLedTV I have hopefully resolved your comments. Please have a look. Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:43, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments and support :) Yashthepunisher (talk) 15:05, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support-Great job. My only comment is that Ref2 is dead. Just replace it and the list will be good to go — FR+ 06:40, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
FR, done as suggested, thanks for the comment and support. Yashthepunisher (talk) 06:57, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review[edit]

  • You might want to check that "deadurl" field as yes if the link is dead as was the case of the first ref. Make sure all the links have been checked.
Archived.
  • Ref. 1 says that the awards were instituted in 1968, the article says it was 1967. Does ref. 2 say 1968? I haven't been able to look through the entire document so it would be helpful if you tell me where to look.
The reference says: "Separate awards for artistes and technicians were instituted in 1968 for the films of 1967."
  • Why does the url field in ref. 2 have the archived url? Also, is this ref of any use, I haven't been through the entire document?
Removed, seemed unnecessary to me as well.
  • Ref. 3 mentions Mukherjee, but does not say that the awards are presented by President in general.
Fixed.
  • Wikilink Outlook, Business Standard, The Asian Age and the likes.
Done
  • You might also want to be consistent with wiklinks in refs. You link International Film Festival of India on multiple occasions, but the rest only once. Either link only on first occurrence or link everywhere.
Fixed. Yashthepunisher (talk) 14:22, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Going through the contents of the table, VedantTalk 09:27, 26 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Further:

  • I have to say Yash, I am fairly confused on how you've given​ the titles to the refs. 58th National Awards has a unique instance of the year mentioned​ in the title and none of the other do; the 64th National Awards pdf has the year in the title but the ref does not. You'll have to help me out here.
The title of ref's are consistent now. Most of the references have year mentioned in them, but some don't have that. I don't think its necessary in any way.
  • Also, I still think that the "deadurl" field in the refs issue has not been addressed. Most of the "original" URLs are dead and should say yes in their​respective "deadurl" field as it is in the last ref. In that scenario the archived URL comes first which is ideal.
Replaced dead urls.

They are all available and working in the archived forms otherwise. VedantTalk 16:03, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Numerounovedant I have hopefully resolved your comments now. Have a look. Yashthepunisher (talk) 13:06, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Everything looks good, but you've misunderstood me on the last point again. You do not have to change the URL with archived url as you did here. All you need to do is this, just replace the no with a yes. Other than that, consider the source review done. Good luck getting this promoted! VedantTalk 14:22, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Numerounovedant Done as suggested. Rest of the links are working. Is their anything else? Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:11, 29 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. that should be it then. Consider this done. VedantTalk 05:25, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review Vedant. Yashthepunisher (talk) 06:21, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed above, thanks Numerounovedant! Made one tweak- the date formats were mixed between DMY and MDY. Promoting. --PresN 21:45, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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