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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 19:31:33 27 March 2019 (UTC) [1].

List of national lakeshores and seashores of the United States[edit]

List of national lakeshores and seashores of the United States (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Reywas92Talk 20:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I started this list about eight years ago in the model of List of national monuments of the United States and List of national parks of the United States and decided to finally finish it up since the only one of them I've actually visited was just taken off this list! Looking forward to your comments. Reywas92Talk 20:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Lirim.Z[edit]

Resolved comments from Lirim.Z
  • Quick first comment, in depth review later today:
  • The lead looks huge imo, WP:Lead As a general rule of thumb, a lead section should contain no more than four well-composed paragraphs and be carefully sourced as appropriate. This has five.
    • Since this is a list (without a corresponding main article) and the lead isn't typical summary-style I don't think it must match that exactly. However I could certainly move the History into a separate section.
  • Is there a reason there isn't a main article?
  • Link United States in the first sentence
  • Use ! scope="row" for the names in the table
  • All the date formats for the refs should be the same
  • It's surname, Given name. Change Ref 5, 8, 10. Use
  • Support--Lirim | Talk 02:40, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comments from BeatlesLedTV
    • I agree with Lirim.Z the lead does seem a little long. You could get away with separating the history into its own section
    • Tables need scope cols and rows per MOS:ACCESS (if you need help I can do this for ya).
    • Fixed date formats for ya

    Everything else looks really good. Great job to you! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 18:03, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    • I made this edit for ya (unbolds the names). If you don't like it you can undo it but if you do let me know. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 22:05, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Hmm can't decide if I have a preference, bold may look better on the gray background but it was regular before without a need to change so whatever others like is fine; regular is more consistent with the other articles. Reywas92Talk 22:18, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unbold is the right way to do it.--Lirim | Talk 02:40, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Comments by Dudley[edit]

    • "Long term planning for all sites must address erosion and visitor access." This is POV and should be attributed to a named author.
    • "but debate over the meaning of this status and how the land would be acquired delayed action". "how the land would be acquired" and comments below seem to imply that national lakeshores and seashores have to be owned by the Park Service. The rules regarding ownership should be spelled out.
    • Seminole Rest and Mosquito Lagoon should be linked.
    • "The museum on the mainland preserves Timucua Indian history, Nathaniel Green and Eli Whitney's works, and War of 1812 battles." "preserves" sounds odd. Maybe "displays".
    • "the most at any NPS site". You should have "National Park Service (NPS)" at first mention of the National Park Service.
    • "Ice caves" should not be capitalised.
    • Article looks good. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:24, 22 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • All done, went with "exhibits", and yes, the land is owned by the Park Service. Thanks for your comments, Reywas92Talk 00:21, 23 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Does land have to be owned by the NPS in order to be designated a national lakeshore or seashore? I think you should spell out the general rules, not just the situation in some specific cases. Dudley Miles (talk) 10:56, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes, with very few exceptions all of the units of the NPS are fully owned by the federal government, which is what makes them public lands. Added a couple phrases to clarify. 18:43, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

    Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 19:31, 27 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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