Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of games by Epic Games/archive1
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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:30, 7 May 2018 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of games by Epic Games[edit]
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Continuing my series of 90s video game developers/publishers (3D Realms/id Software/Raven Software), I bring to you Epic Games and its products. Started by Tim Sweeney in his parents' house as first Potomac Computer Systems and shortly thereafter Epic MegaGames, in the mid-90s it was the main shareware developer/publisher in competition with Apogee Software (3D Realms) with Jazz Jackrabbit and a bunch of also-rans. Since then, it's made 3 major transitions: from mostly shareware publishing external titles, to retail PC game development focusing on the Unreal series, then to console game development focusing on the Gears of War series, and now is moving back to self-publishing multi-platform experimental games: extended early-access games like Fortnite, collaborative development with the player community in Unreal Tournament, collaborations with film studios in Spyjinx, etc. They can afford to do all this due to their series of successful Unreal Engines, which power tons of AAA games across the industry.
This nomination was a bit more of a collaboration than many of my previous ones: I started making this list in a sandbox in March, only for Deltasim to make a parallel version in article space 6 days later after a discussion at Talk:Epic Games. That kicked me into moving a bit faster, so I'd like to thank them, along with along with Lordtobi and Hakken, for helping get this list up to a solid state up from a small table in Epic Games. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 17:08, 13 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment:: - I have a question. How do we know that this list is comprehensive? With many of your lists you generally have one primary reliable source that has a definitive listing of the items in the featured list, but this list is very much a labor of many sources put together. How do we evaluate it when I am not personally sure that it includes all titles Epic has had? Great work though! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:41, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Judgesurreal777: Same as any other similar list- in the case (such as this one) where the company itself does not have a comprehensive list available of the games they have worked on, that no games database (reliable or otherwise) has games for Epic in it without a reason to exclude (e.g. AllGame had a game marked as published by Epic that was actually published by Safari, which Epic later bought- see the page history for justifications on removing each game like that). This is standard for video-games-by-company lists; I've actually never had a company list with a single comprehensive source, as far as I remember, which is both the challenge and the interest of these kind of lists- it means that this list is the only one on the internet (or in books, as far as I can find) that is consolidated and comprehensive, much less sourced. --PresN 19:31, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Support - Excellent. Since standard procedures for obtaining reliable sources and ensuring completeness were followed, and well reasoned justifications are given for any exclusions or modifications, I support the nomination for this list. Another in a long chain of great work! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:38, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Judgesurreal777: Same as any other similar list- in the case (such as this one) where the company itself does not have a comprehensive list available of the games they have worked on, that no games database (reliable or otherwise) has games for Epic in it without a reason to exclude (e.g. AllGame had a game marked as published by Epic that was actually published by Safari, which Epic later bought- see the page history for justifications on removing each game like that). This is standard for video-games-by-company lists; I've actually never had a company list with a single comprehensive source, as far as I remember, which is both the challenge and the interest of these kind of lists- it means that this list is the only one on the internet (or in books, as far as I can find) that is consolidated and comprehensive, much less sourced. --PresN 19:31, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment:: - I have a question. How do we know that this list is comprehensive? With many of your lists you generally have one primary reliable source that has a definitive listing of the items in the featured list, but this list is very much a labor of many sources put together. How do we evaluate it when I am not personally sure that it includes all titles Epic has had? Great work though! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:41, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
| Resolved comments from Courcelles (talk) 20:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply] |
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*"best-selling Gears of War series of games," Need an independent source for this qualifier.
Grasping at straws here, good work. Courcelles (talk) 18:19, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support Courcelles (talk) 20:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Support I tried to find something, but failed. Once you address Courcelles' issues above, this is good to go. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:24, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Support, same situation as Rambling. --Golbez (talk) 18:27, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Support as above. Don't feel obligated but I'm looking for comments on my FLC nomination if you've got the time. Freikorp (talk) 11:03, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Source review – All of the references are well-formatted and appear to be reliable enough. The link-checker tool shows no issues. I spot-checked a few sources: references 24, 39, and 52.
Ref 24 lists the title of the game, but doesn't seem to have some of the other information mentioned, in particular the developer.Refs 39 and 52 have no issues,so some better support for the game cited by ref 24 is the only thing I'd like to see.Giants2008 (Talk) 22:25, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Giants2008: At first I was confused and a little embarassed... but now I just feel too clever for my own good. Check ref 24 again, specifically the picture (not the text) for the Epic Baseball section- it's the title screen, which says "By Microleague Interactive Software". I can look for a second source if you'd like, as well. --PresN 01:31, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Can't believe I missed that before. I'm so used to looking at text that I didn't think to check the photo. I'd say the source review has been passed now. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:03, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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