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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Matthewedwards 22:48, 16 May 2009 [1].

List of New York Mets seasons[edit]

Nominator(s): Giants2008 (17-14)
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Under the new criteria, there haven't been nearly as many nominations, and the number of sports lists nominated in particular has dropped substantially. Even before the changes occured, seasons lists had rarely been seen at FLC in the previous few months. I had always planned to work on a fifth seasons list at some point, and this is the perfect time for it. The list works in ideas I've gleaned from the previous lists I've improved, and from a peer review. As before, I'll be around to address reviewers' concerns. Giants2008 (17-14) 14:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural: I peer-reviewed this list; I believe it to be of featured quality and support this nomination. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 16:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in terms of the writing. It's good, at least in terms of prose and my knowledge of tables. Haven't yet looked properly at the new criteria, though.
  • "forty-five" and "47"? See MOSNUM. And "In 47 seasons" depends on the year this was written. Would it be repetitious to say "As of 2009"? Tony (talk) 17:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Those two aren't comparable quantities. "As of 2009" would also have to be updated just as often as the number of seasons (once per year). KV5 (Talk • Phils) 17:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The sentence in question reads, "after playing two years at the Polo Grounds and forty-five years in Shea Stadium." Are these not comparative quantities? And who said that comparative quantities should be treated differently than regular numbers in the first place? That's always been the most annoying part of the MoS for me. I suppose I should leave it for now, though I would have no problem switching to a numeral if Tony insists, and would actually prefer it that way. As for the sentence, I went with "Since their inception in 1962" to avoid repetition, and tweaked the second paragraph for the same reason. Giants2008 (17-14) 00:06, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Your previous write-up was actually correct (two and forty-five are comparable, which forty-five and 47 are not in this case). However, it could be rectified by going to 2, 45, 47, which wouldn't be a problem since there are an equal number of >10 and <10 numbers in the sentence using comparables. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's no big deal. And MOSNUM just says "We may write [using the "comparable units" thing". I'd use "two" and "45" in the same sentence, because a single digit just seems to stick out unless a value next to a unit. Whichever. Tony (talk) 12:34, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps we should take it out of MOSNUM then? That's been one of my pet peeves; i.e., I hate seeing "five cats and 32 dogs". Dabomb87 (talk) 13:25, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • "The Mets compete"-->They compete to avoid "The ... Mets" in consecutive sentences.
  • "After six more years in which their best division finish was ninth," I thought there were no divisions until 1969.
  • "After winning two pennants in five years, New York struggled for the next decade, not coming within 10 games of the NL East leader until 1984." Please clarify what a "pennant" is for us readers who don't follow baseball. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Made the changes. Giants2008 (17-14) 14:27, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from SRE.K.A.L.24

Comments from -- SRE.K.A.L.24[c]

  • "In 1986, the team posted 108 wins, the most in franchise history, and won its second World Series championship by defeating the Boston Red Sox in seven games." You talk about the 1969 World Series blowout, but not game 6 of the 1986 World Series?
  • NL pennant, NL title, NL championship...suggest you stick with only one of them, most preferably pennant or championship, as it could confuse the readers.
  • Why is there a picture of only Gary Carter on the article? Ehh...

-- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 07:26, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I added a little bit about Game 6, but I didn't want to go into too much detail in a list of this format. If any baseball game deserves its own article, that's the one (well, except for this one :-))
  • Thought I took all of the pennants out earlier, but apparently I missed one. I went with NL championship throughout
  • Blame a lack of space in the list format, along with a lack of good free photos for the job. I really wanted a photo of Tom Seaver, but unfortunately we don't have one yet. One option would be to place photos besides the table, but I'm concerned that will end up squeezing the table. Giants2008 (17-14) 03:00, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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