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The list was promoted by IMatthew 16:47, 7 November 2009 [1].

List of 125cc Motorcycle World Champions[edit]

Nominator(s): NapHit (talk) 20:23, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list because I believe that is close to being at Featured list standard. NapHit (talk) 20:23, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments The point system mentioned at the prose is the current point system. I believe that in the older years the point system were different. I haven't had time to confirm this and find a reference, but I think it should be noted that the point systems weren't always the same. Other than that, it's a great list, good job on completing the list of champions to complement the previous FLs (250cc and MotoGP). — Martin tamb (talk) 09:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted this, added a sentence to clarify. Thanks for the shout-out, still got the 350cc, and 50/80cc to come yet, as well as an overall list of winners. NapHit (talk) 20:32, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Great list, meets FL criteria. — Martin tamb (talk) 21:19, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • "historically, there have been a number of different points system's." Remove apostrophe from last word.
  • Why is there an empty Refs column in the table? Having a large empty row makes the appearance less appealing. Giants2008 (17–14) 16:11, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done NapHit (talk) 20:06, 4 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Other than the couple of addressed comments, I found the list to be very good when I first read it. With no further comments, I see no reason not to support. Giants2008 (17–14) 19:37, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Made a few tweaks, but otherwise another good list motorcycling racing list. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:02, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:02, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Nice. I only noticed one thing, and that was "Great Britain riders". It just sounds wrong, but I'm not sure if it is. "Riders from Great Britain" is ok though. Support Matthewedwards :  Chat  03:01, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Is there a reason why Gilera aren't included in the constructors table?
  • I count 14 individual Italian winners, lead and table say 13.
  • The key may need some clarification that the rider won the other championship in the same season.

--Jpeeling (talk • contribs) 17:03, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I count 13, done the other requests. NapHit (talk) 22:36, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I also count 14 individual Italian winners (Bianchi, Cadalora, Capirossi, Dovizioso, Gramigni, Gresini, Lazzarini, Locatelli, Pagani, Pileri, Provini, Rossi, Ruffo and Ubbiali), fixed the lead and the table. — Martin tamb (talk) 06:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 09:15, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Slightly confused - you say that sidecar is discontinued but then link it to Superside which, as far as I can tell, is very much not discontinued. Would a link direct to sidecar be more appropriate?
  • "125cc is the class in which young riders first participate in Grand Prix motorcycle racing. "125cc" refers to ..." Two sentences starting like this is not brilliant prose, and it looks even odder since one of the two 125cc's is in quote marks
  • "Grand Prix Road-Racing World Championship" is this the formal name of the championship? It's only mentioned once. If it is the formal name then perhaps it should appear earlier in the lead.
It is the official name of the championship, but I don't think it needs to be mentioned earlier seeing as before it is mentioned talks about the sport in general not the championship itself. NapHit (talk) 22:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The driver's championship and constructor's championship are separate championships..." do we need that last (and third in the sentence) "championship"? Or could you remove the first one?
  • "Results from all Grands Prix count towards the championships; in the past, only a certain number of results were counted." You should make it clear that the first part o the sentence is relevant to the championship today.
  • 80cc is in the table but not mentioned in the lead at all.
  • "Each link goes to the article ..." - "Each year is linked to the article..."?
  • Worth being clear what "margin" means. And perhaps note in the lead who won with the largest margin.
  • Do you mean "rider" instead of "driver" in the Multiple winners and By nationality tables?
  • That note needs some context, date, referencing.
  • Ref 3 has odd spelling of January.

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:07, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done all requests. NapHit (talk) 22:49, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Comment – Just a minor comment, are Morbidelli and MBA the same constructors? Perhaps a note should explain why are they considered the same constructor or a note that explains Morbidelli's total win of 5 includes 2 wins as MBA. — Martin tamb (talk) 09:29, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Or probably you should split MBA and Morbidelli as two separate constructors, Morbidelli with 3 wins and MBA with 2 wins. From Morbidelli's article, it mentions that MBA (Morbidelli-Benelli-Armi) bikes was produced in a separate factory and was helped by Benelli. In my opinion, they were two different companies producing different bikes. MBA was more like a joint venture between Morbidelli and Benelli. — Martin tamb (talk) 18:27, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've split Morbidelli and MBA win totals, because all the reference I found does not recognize them as the same constructor. — Martin tamb (talk) 16:26, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, seems to be a well constructed list, also well researched, no obvious blatant errors that I can see. --Lightlowemon (talk) 04:13, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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