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Jack Adams Award[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page. No further edits should be made to this page. The closing editor's comments were: 14 days, 4 support, 0 oppose. Promote. Scorpion0422 23:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Modelled upon the Hart Memorial Trophy, a relatively recent FL. It is a bit different from the other NHL trophies, as it involves coaches, non-players. All concerns will be addressed. Maxim(talk) 22:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Any source for the notations for President Trophy, Stanley Cup, etc.? ludahai 魯大海 13:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shouold be, but it's never directly stated, as you need the lists of team winners for each, that the name of the team's coaches... Should I add a general reference which points to the three lists I mentioned before? I think the teams are already there. Maxim(talk) 19:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think some source should be provided. What do others think? ludahai 魯大海 11:49, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try to do something. I think I'll try to implement my solution above. Maxim(talk) 11:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Maxim(talk) 12:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Oppose - I had the following minor concerns:
    • The overlinking in the captions should be removed, as each pictured coach already has an entry on the list.
    • The list in the "History" section would look better if it were merged into prose. I don't think you really need all of the infomation about what team they played on and what year it occurred it in, as is is already clearly presented in the list.
    • The last sentence of the History section is very stubby. It would better if this could be combined with another paragraph. The third paragraph ios also border-line stubby; perhaps it can be merged with one of the first two.
    • The "adjudged to have contributed the most to his team's success" quote in the lead and the infobox needs to have a citation.
    • Perhaps the lead can be expanded with one or two more senetences? It does not seem up to par with the other trophy list leads.
    • Why is National Hockey League Broadcasters Association italicized?
  • Overall, I am very confident that these concerns will all be addressed and/or explained, and I'll re-assess my opinion then. Raime 19:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Due to recent improvements, list certainly meets all criteria. Great job, Maxim :) Rai-me 00:31, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: Great looking list, very well-sourced.
  • Oppose: I take my support back. The history section needs sourcing. For a cite for the bit about the closest vote, simply search the NHL news archives for last years NHL awards results and I'm sure you'll find one. Google Ruff Laviolette and "Jack Adams" together and you'll probably have no trouble. -- Scorpion0422 00:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I found the ref, with a bit of trouble, I have to admit. It's the fifth link down, for a search with <- Ruff Laviolette "Jack Adams" "point" -blog -blogspot -> Will you reconsider? :) Maxim(talk) 01:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Support: It wouldn't hurt to have a citation for the other point in the section, but I am satisfied. Good job. -- Scorpion0422 01:39, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per Raime and Scorpion. I am not certain it is necessary in a list of coaches, but would it perhaps help to use the highlight on coaches who are still currently active in the NHL, as we do with players on the other awards pages? Resolute 01:46, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm afraid highlighting coaches is a POV slimepit, because they maybe active in many different ways, and that's the problem. Now if I define criteria, then it's another slimepit. Players are very well defined, they "officially" announce retirement, that's what I think makes the difference. Maxim(talk) 01:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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