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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:The Rambling Man 16:02, 24 August 2008 [1].

2008 Summer Olympics venues[edit]

Timely, and I think it's up to speed. Le comte de monte christo (talk) 19:39, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Happy with the changes. Support now. Woody (talk) 21:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Simply put: we have Peer review for a reason.
Always nice to hear words of encouragement. Le comte de monte christo (talk) 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just re-read it, not the most welcoming I agree, and I apologise for that. The point was that FL is not PR and this would have benefited from a Peer review. There are some obvious mistakes, spellings etc. Woody (talk) 20:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That was just my haste. Apologies. Le comte de monte christo (talk) 22:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The lead is inadequate: it does not sum up the list and it does not provide enough background.
Will work on it. Some guidance or suggestions for expansion would be helpful.Le comte de monte christo (talk) 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
WP:LEAD is the first place to go. Then look at some of the recent promotions and see what the Leads hold. We need a paragraph explaining the 2008 Olympics, what they are, who they involve etc. Not everyone knows this. Summarise each section, how many new venues, how many exisiting, how many temporary etc. At the moment it does not summarise the list and it does not give any further information on the topic. So, it needs a lot of expansion. Woody (talk) 20:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Expanded. Let me know if it works. Not really sure where else to go. Would have added information about oldest and most recently completed venues, but couldn't find sources.Le comte de monte christo (talk) 23:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are some spelling errors: "openening" jumps out at me.
Spell-checked. Le comte de monte christo (talk) 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Something that might be useful in the list: cost of the sites.
Couldn't find any breakouts of individual venue costs, but added total spending to lead.Le comte de monte christo (talk) 23:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • There needs to be inline references really, at least for each section.
Done. Le comte de monte christo (talk) 00:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • All of the tables should be the same width.
Done Le comte de monte christo (talk) 20:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • So, it needs some work to meet FL standards. Woody (talk) 19:56, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose The most significant thing to me is that the lead needs a lot of work. Simply put, there is plenty of information to add, what with this being a current event and all. Gary King (talk) 20:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Have expanded lead. Let me know if there is more that you think is worth adding.Le comte de monte christo (talk) 00:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks better now, so I have struck out my oppose. Gary King (talk) 00:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • Avoid that kind of opening sentence. "The following is a list"... blah. Featured articles don't start "The following is an article..." so FLs shouldn't either. Look at some of the other current FLCs for inspiration.
    • "2008 Summer Olympics. The 2008 Summer Olympics " repetitive prose.
    • "Over 10,000 athletes from 204 countries are participating in 302 events in 28 sports, held in 37 competition venues." where is this referenced?
    • "Beijing won its bid for the 2008 Olympics on July 13, 2001. " "bid to host the" and citation needed.
    • Link the currencies.
    • Check image captions - those which are fragments do not take full stops.
    • Not keen on sorting by sport since it's free text.
    • I would right-align the capacity col so the commas line up.
    • "national aquatics center " shouldn't that be in capitals?
    • Make columns the same width from table to table so the list has a good look and feel.
    • Explain what n/a means and why it's n/a for the sailing venue.
    • Center or Centre? Be consistent, check the article for any lingering non-US-Eng.
    • I think the 2008 Summer Olympics cat is a supercat of the Venues cat so you don't need it.
  • The Rambling Man (talk) 07:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Couldn't some extra detailsto introduce the "temporary" venues section be added? Although it makes sense when you think about it and some articles do mention their temporary natures), at first I was just confused. Circeus (talk) 19:35, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm unclear as to what you mean - just an explanation of what is meant by a temporary venue? And if so, do you think it would be better placed in the lead of at the beginning of that section? Le comte de monte christo (talk) 01:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Maybe saying the types of temporary venues (some will be converted afterwards, other won't, I think), and if they are particularly numerous or not compared to the average games? And definitely in the lead to that section. Circeus (talk) 18:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • What, no link to 2008 Summer Olympics?
  • date format please. The Olympics are an international competition, and dates should be dd-mmmm-yyyy format.
  • "A total of US$1.9 billion (RMB¥13 billion)" Is there a reason this isn't "A total of RMB¥13 billion (US$1.9 billion)"? I'm sure they spent Chinese money, not American
  • I'd prefer a separate reference column in the tables. The references cover all three entries in the row, not just the name.
  • According to the MOS, {{reflist|3}} shouldn't be used. |2 is the max

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 01:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose My concerns are still outstanding, and five days should have been enough time to sort them out. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:38, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look good. Links checked out with the link checker tool (that I accessed by myself (sniffles)). Ealdgyth - Talk 14:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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