Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Karen Dotrice/Archive01

Karen Dotrice[edit]

One week after requesting peer review, I've received exactly no comment, so I've no clue how this will turn out. Nevertheless, why not try? Radio Kirk talk to me 21:47, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Object. There are no inline citations and no References, failing criteria 2(c). The lead is a bit too short; while it should be succint, it should contain a bit more information. The "On Matthew Garber" section is simply a quote and should be merged with the Film section. The personal life is very lacking, missing all details from her early life. Years should only be linked to if they either help in the context of the information or have a specific month or date with them. Many of the paragraphs contain only 1 sentence are are lacking. Other sentences are too long and are run-ons, namely That same year, she and Thomasina co-star Matthew Garber were hired to play Jane and Michael, the children of George Banks (David Tomlinson), who gets more than he bargained for when he hires a nanny named Mary Poppins. AndyZ 22:43, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Allow me to note, please, that the talk page references the external links as the article's sources. Also, if you're aware of any information that this article does not contain (that is publicly available), please feel free to point me there. Radio Kirk talk to me 01:02, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You can use external websites as sources but you must still attribute particular statements or sentences to particular websites, see 2c in WP:WIAFA & also Wikipedia:Citing sources Mikkerpikker 17:00, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not objecting to the use of websites; listing it under external links automatically makes the assumption that they are not references, and should be converted to proper reference format in a reference section. AndyZ 01:57, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Further note, if I may: The "On Matthew Garber"" section is intentionally separate—here is a co-star whose death in 1977 went virtually unnoticed for nearly 20 years, including by Disney. Radio Kirk talk to me 18:35, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree with that, "On Matthew Garber" is only one quote. It doesn't matter that Matthew Garber's death went virtually unnoticed (which if that was the reason why it was the separate section that should be the reason should be incorporated somewhat into there). AndyZ 00:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Object. No references whatsoever. JoaoRicardo^talk 05:25, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Object - it's a sad fact that a lot of people don't bother looking at Peer Review, and it's very frustrating when you ask for help there and don't get it. I think the article is lacking any sort of depth, notwithstanding Dotrice is known for only a few films, even these are covered too briefly. Each section consists of barely a paragraph. One little thing about grammar - there are a couple of bits where it says "Dotrice would pair up" or "would star" and these things should be changed to past tense. Suggest read through other featured articles to get an idea of the style and depth of other articles. For an example of a featured article on a person who was famous for basically one event maybe try A. E. J. Collins. Also have a look at Wikipedia:Image description page which explains what is needed in terms of attributing copyright and stating a fair use rationale. Also the references must be stated on the article page, rather than the talk page. Rossrs 08:17, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Object. Not much more than a CV converted to grammatical sentences. It's hard to believe that the subject's work has never been commented on in reviews or in other forms of criticism. Monicasdude 15:11, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Strong object. It's not quite ready, it fails all the critrea except maybe 2d and 3b. I suggest the nominator look again at WP:WIAFA Mikkerpikker 16:55, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Response—Thank you all for your comments. When this is done, I will make the necessary revisions and resubmit the self-nom. I write for radio for a living; writing for print is a different animal... Radio Kirk talk to me 18:28, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]