Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Guns N' Roses/archive1

Guns N' Roses

Self-nomination. Article has been heavily revised since it was last considered. 26 Dec 2005

Partial self-nom.This article was previously nominated and it failed because some people considered that the history section was too short. This has been fixed. More than five paragraphs of additional information has been added, as well as new photos. The article has all the qualities for being a featured article. References, lenght, pictures, point of view. If you compare any heavy metal band article in wikipedia with this one, you will see a great difference. This article looks extremely profesional. It should be a Featured Article. <<Coburn_Pharr>> 00:09, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Support, comprehensive well written article. Should be an interesting read. Marine 69-71 01:18, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Object. The article is way too fannish, especially the lead, which reads like liner notes or material from a fan's web page. There are no inline citations, which I think are pretty important when you're stating that people are heroin addicts, threatened to kill other people, etc. For instance, "Members of the crew at the time even stated that Slash had to be carried on to the stage by a group of people and that he often passed out after the concerts ended." Which members of the crew? Where can this statement be verified? Or this: "His excessive elusiveness has led to several stories that claim that he is suffering from serious bipolar disorder." Is there any way to verify this statement that he's mentally ill? Almost all the photos are claimed to have been used under fair use, and Rose.JPG has no legal information. The article has essentially no critical discussion of the band's music. Were there any themes that were important in their songwriting? How does their music compare stylistically with other heavy metal bands' music? --Bcrowell 01:59, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Object. What Bcrowell said was right: the article in general, but especially the lead, is on the "fannish" side. I am not one that complains about hidden citations, but I would like to see much more referencing. This article has a lot of potential, but I don't think it's there quite yet. My suggestion would be to get it copyedited by someone who is relentless at it (Bishonen might actually be willing to help if you ask her nicely), do a peer review, and go from there. It will get there; you just need to work a little more on it. Linuxbeak | Talk | Desk 04:57, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
• Object. I didn't even make it past the first sentence before POV became an issue. The rest of the article didn't improve upon that issue. I remember I objected to this article last time because there was no singles discography (a standard on even stubbed artist articles); there still isn't one here. --FuriousFreddy 06:55, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)