Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Columbine High School massacre/archive1

Columbine High School massacre[edit]

Self Nomination. I have been working on this article for eight months now, with the help of countless contributors. I believe this article now exemplifies the qualities for featured article status. It has been peer reviewed twice, and has gone through FAC status twice. Every issue brought up in all four reviews has been attended to. Almost every portion of the article can be supported with facts and information found through official investigations and several sources on the internet. It is comprehensive, concise, and should be featured as one of wikipedia's best works. - PRueda29 - 13:08 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Links to its archived candidate and peer review pages:

Support. After the recent edits and the addition of inline references, I fully support this article. I know I was initially hard on the article, but that was b/c the subject matter had to be fully researched and sourced to avoid future trouble with reverts and edits. In response to concerns raised, PRueda29 has done some amazing work on this article over the last day and it fully deserves to be a FA at this point.--Alabamaboy 14:11, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Support. A great article that has addressed the concerns I had for it in Peer Review. Cedars 14:42, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Mild object~~. This is a detailed and extremely well written article, but I have a couple minor quibbles. Image:ColumbineLibrary.jpg does not meet the Wikipedia:Fair use guidelines, as it would possible for us to create a free version of it. I would also like some information on what happened prior to the shooting, specifically the bowling question is not covered in the article. - SimonP 17:27, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Comment. The Bowling question was covered but I decided to remove it since I couldn't find a good place for it. I'll add it back. Thanks. - PRueda29 - 17:33 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Comment. Reference to bowling added. As for the image, ~~even though it can be recreated, It is a screenshot placed in a relevant article and no larger than required for the web based article. So I believe its rationale is fine, but I could be wrong.~~ I have replaced it. - PRueda29 - 10:45 23 August 2005 (UTC).

Support, thank you for the changes. Using the CNN map may very well have been legal, but overusing fair use conflicts with Wikipedia's own goals, since such images can only be used in the United States. - SimonP 13:44, August 23, 2005 (UTC)

Object.
1. ~~The image Image:Columbine High School.jpg, Image:Evacuating Columbine.jpg have no source information. Fair use cannot be claimed without information on the creator and copyright holder.~~
2. The images Image:Columbine High School.jpg, Image:Evacuating Columbine.jpg, Image:Columbine Breaking News Photography.GIF, Image:Columbine1.jpg are claimed as fair use, but have inadequate fair use rationales. See Wikipedia:Fair use and Wikipedia:Image description page#Fair use rationale for what is needed.
3. The image Image:ColumbineLibrary.jpg is claimed as fair use. However, it is quite possible for a replacement for this image to be created by a Wikipedian: there is no reason to use a fair use image here.
4. ~~The image Image:Columbine1.jpg doesn't make for a very good lead image.~~
--Carnildo 03:50, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I specified the rationale for Image:Columbine High School.jpg, Image:Evacuating Columbine.jpg, and Image:Columbine Breaking News Photography.GIF so that it is clear that the images relate to this article. However, I don't know the exact source of Image:Evacuating Columbine.jpg. I also didn't bother with Image:Columbine1.jpg since it was marked for deletion. As for Image:ColumbineLibrary.jpg, I am not artistically inclined. Is there someone who is up to the challenge? Pentawing 23:38, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - Now found the source of Image:Evacuating Columbine.jpg and noted it. Pentawing 00:12, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - I doubt that's the source. The image description page says "a local Denver news station", and that isn't the home page of a news station. --Carnildo 05:21, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      - The Image Image:ColumbineLibrary.jpg has been replaced and is currently up for deletetion, it will not be used in the artcle. --PRueda29 10:42 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Support. This article made me sick to my stomach in its brutally efficient summary of the events. A great article about a terrible incident. Let's never put this on the main page though, please. --Matt Yeager 23:31, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

Support, text is great, the only thing I found distacting was the section headings in the Aftermath section, which could be shortened or done away with since the section is quite short anyway.--nixie 13:54, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
~~Neutral~~ - The article lists "The final grand jury investigation was released in September 2004." In reguards to the county sheriff having prior knowledge. expand on it and this will have my support. --ZeWrestler ^Talk 15:49, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Suppport-Nice expansion on the investigation.ZeWrestler ^Talk 17:07, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support. The topic is still controversial as well as a touchy subject amongst many people. Nevertheless, the article is quite comprehensive and detailed. Pentawing 23:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Support-Nicely researched article, and author surely went great extents to make sure everything is told about this subject. Airodyssey 01:58 24 August 2005 (UTC)
Support - Excellent article! Well thought and researched. Jigglz2003 19:28 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Support. A very interesting article. I read it months ago and it was great. Front page is a maybe, I don't think its still that big of a deal 6 years later. (note: please don't go and shout me down for saying that.) I say that not in an insensitive way but in the most-people-don't-flinch-anymore-at-its-mention way. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:47, 26 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]