Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Benjamin Harrison V/archive1

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The article was archived by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 4 October 2020 [1].

Benjamin Harrison V[edit]

Nominator(s): Hoppyh (talk) 20:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This article is about the life of an early Virginia patriot and governor, who was also one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. Hoppyh (talk) 20:42, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image review—pass

What is the evidence that File:Benjamin Harrison V miniature portrait.png is available under a free license?

@Buidhe: Thanks for your review. I’ll see what I can do. Hoppyh (talk) 11:40, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is not my forte, so let me know if this helps or not. The Virginia Museum of History and Culture, which is the source and owner of the portrait, provides a description of the item. This indicates the painting was created in Virginia by the (unknown) author from life in the latter half of the 18th century. Does this establish evidence that the painting is in the public domain based of the lifespan of the author? Thanks again for your help. Hoppyh (talk) 14:45, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think that the underlying object is public domain (you can use {{PD-old-unknown}} on commons), however, there is a secondary copyright for the photograph as the object is three-dimensional. One way to fix it would be to photoshop out all the parts of the locket and its edge, leaving just the 2-d portrait (which would be {{PD-art}}). (t · c) buidhe 17:39, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to find someone with that skill set–if you know of anyone here, of course I’d be grateful for the assistance. Thanks yet again. Hoppyh (talk) 18:52, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See the new image in the article infobox. I have captured the portrait as you suggested, without the locket etc. I used the PD-art license, but it appears more classification is required. Can you help? Hoppyh (talk) 02:08, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Now fixed (t · c) buidhe 05:16, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Other images appear to be freely licensed (t · c) buidhe 04:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Buidhe

Books should ideally have an OCLC or ISBN to indicate which edition is cited (t · c) buidhe 04:20, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Hoppyh (talk) 11:40, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Hoppyh (talk) 14:36, 1 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review

Why is the "hold these truths to be self-evident" quote in the lead and not elsewhere in the article?

Removed. Hoppyh (talk) 21:21, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the other details in the lead don't appear to be supported or cited anywhere - for example, that he rarely disagreed with Washington

I removed this and another. Hoppyh (talk) 21:21, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly some of the infobox details aren't cited anywhere, such as the names of his children (and actually there's a child named in the text who's not listed in the infobox)
Be consistent in whether page ranges are truncated
FN15 is incomplete
What makes FN25 a high-quality reliable source?
Fns12 and 39: the title is spelled out in full at the given source
Fn43 does not support that Harrison was "frequently" the chair
Fn12 is not a sufficient source for what it is being claimed to cite
Most of the sources cited are quite old, although there are more recent books that discuss the subject - why is this?
The quote cited to FN48 does not match that provided in that source
What makes Bridgehunter.com a high-quality reliable source?
Be consistent in whether locations are included for books

I can't access the books that support the majority of the content, but I'm concerned by spotchecking in the accessible sources. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:38, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If possible, I think the nom should be withdrawn. More work is needed here. I apologize to you for taking up your valuable time and effort. Your comments will provide a starting point for the work required. Thanks. Hoppyh (talk) 22:14, 3 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@FAC coordinators: Nominator requests withdrawal. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. --Laser brain (talk) 02:08, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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