Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/WinBot

The following is copied from Archive 4: --WinHunter ^(talk) 07:05, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

User:WinBot[edit]

I am requesting to run an AWB bot to 1. Subst talk page templates listed in Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace, especially {{unsigned}} and test templates. 2. Unicodfying China-related articles, with article list from categories and stub categories. --WinHunter ^(talk) 16:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subst'ing of unsigned is a tad contoversial, the 2nd option would be interesting, can you provide an example diff? -- Tawker 18:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about subst other non-controversial user talk templates? As for examples of unicodfying China related articles, here are a few examples: [1][2][3][4][5]. --WinHunter ^(talk) 20:13, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unicodifying is a good idea. It appears, however, that you are also using the "Apply General Fixes" setting in AWB. This will probably lead to a lot of unneccessary edits for things like page reordering and the like. Is there a way to make it only apply those general fixes on pages WITH unicode changes?Alphachimp ^talk 20:18, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Appearently not, so I think I am going to turn that option off in bot edits. The option in the bot would be "Auto tag" & "Unidifify whole article" with "Apply general fixes" unchecked (those diff links are human-assisted, so it's ok to edit with that option). --WinHunter ^(talk) 20:24, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That seems a lot better to me. Obviously having "apply general fixes" checked is OK for human-assisted edits, but for bot edits it can be a bit troublesome (you don't want your bot just moving whitespace). I'm still a little confused about the "auto tag" feature (see here on AWB page]. I've racked up a couple thousand manual edits using AWB, and have never really seen it in action. Do you have any examples of that option at work? Alphachimp ^talk 20:35, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yea.. auto tag rarely kicks in, so I think I can't really provide diff links. In my memory, it only happened a couple times in some very short articles where it automatically tagged them with {{stub}}, so I think it's ok to unicodify with that option on (though I don't really mind turning it off since it rarely kicks in anyways). --WinHunter ^(talk) 21:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've had the same experience. It rarely kicks in. Personally, I would not check that option, just because we don't really have any hard and fast diffs. But yeah, looks good to me. I guess you just need approval from someone in the Bot Approvals group. Alphachimp ^talk

Barring any objections from Tawker, who has already commented, a week trial run of the unicodification is fine. Throttle to 2-3 a minute, don't use "auto tag" or "apply general fixes." Check back with us after a week and we can approve the full run, a bot flag, and deal with the subst:ing issue. (Don't do subst: for now.) Essjay (Talk • Connect) 05:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Similar to KonstableBot, WinBot have gone through at least 10,000 articles (can't remember the exact count though) and made 1,464 edits to this moment, everything looks good so far. While I am doing this, I came up with a method to find articles that needs to be unicodified from DB dump, using the regex similar to this one: "&#(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9);". I am wondering if it is possible to use this method to generate list of articles to work on? Many thanks. --WinHunter ^(talk) 09:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - The dump scanning software that comes with AWB has an option to detect unicode, which can be combined with the other options. If however you do want to use your own regex then &#[0-9]{2,5}; is a much nicer answer. Martin 10:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - Thanks for that regex. Can you point out where in the AWB dump scanning software contains that detect unicode option? --WinHunter ^(talk) 10:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      - Checkbox called "Has HTML entities". Martin 10:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        Thanks. Though I'd prefer regex more since it'd not catch those minor unicodifications. (e.g. sup) --WinHunter ^(talk) 10:59, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
        Btw, for subst, I'd subst templates listed in Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace where it says needs to be subst'ed. --WinHunter ^(talk) 11:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Everything seems fine to me; any objections to full approval and a flag? Essjay (Talk) 09:23, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- No objections here. The unicoding looks great. I'm interested in what's going on with the subst'ing (but I assume the approval is for the unicoding). Alphachimp ^talk 18:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - Essjay approved the trial run for unicodification and then asked me to discuss about the subst'ing afterwards. It'll be a simple task of finding those unsubst templates from what links here and then subst them. (e.g. replace {{test -> {{subst:test) w/the list from Wikipedia:SUBST#Templates that should be substituted. --WinHunter ^(talk) 01:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hearing no objections, full run approved, flag set, and subst: approved. Essjay (Talk) 10:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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WinBot, task #3[edit]

Operator: Winhunter

Automatic or Manually Assisted: Automatic

Programming Language(s): AWB

Function Summary: Orphan/merge/rename category per Wikipedia:CFD

Edit period(s) (e.g. Continuous, daily, one time run): Whenever I close a CFD / I see a backlog in CFD

Edit rate requested: 5-6 edits per minute

Already has a bot flag (Y/N): Y

Function Details: The bot would mainly assist me to close CFD, perform the necessary actions for the determined concensus. I would also help with backlog (if any) listed in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working. --WinHunter ^(talk) 07:05, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

go ahead 50 edit trail approved Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 07:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Done. (WinBot's contrib) --WinHunter ^(talk) 11:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So you see the items listed of CfD/W, and verify them, then run the bot?Voice-of-All 17:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'll go into the CfD page concerned to verify it's being closed properly before I pass it on to the bot. --WinHunter ^(talk) 21:46, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Approved Betacommand ^{(talk • contribs • Bot)} 01:14, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]