User talk:William Mirglip

Hello, William Mirglip! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 03:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Getting started A tutorial • Our five pillars • Getting mentored How to: edit a page • upload and use images Intuitive guide to Wikipedia Getting help Frequently asked questions • Tips Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and guidelines Neutral point of view • No original research Verifiability • Reliable sources • Citing sources What Wikipedia is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The community Build consensus • Resolve disputes Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • No legal threats Community portal • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Writing articles Be bold in editing • Develop an article The perfect article • Manual of style Stubs • Categories • Disambiguation Pages needing attention • Peer review Miscellaneous User name • User pages • Talk pages Clean up: General • Spam • Vandalism Join a WikiProject • Translation Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Your first article

Hello, I found your user page from your post at the New User's help page, and took a look at your article in development. I made a few changes; if you don't like them, feel free to revert. I added a reflist section to make your references visible. I added a description to one of the references, you can add to the others by inserting it between the URL and the right square bracket. I didn't look at the YouTube link, but take care that it contains no copyrighted material. If it does, it cannot be used at Wikipedia. Another task is to look up all the people and institutions mentioned and see if articles exist for them. If so, you should turn the word into a wikilink using double square brackets. The article should have more citations to prove notability, and these should be added before making the article "live", otherwise it could be deleted. Are there external articles about the company he founded, and on his writings? Let me know if you have any questions I might be able to answer. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 03:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll be honest with you, I don't see any evidence that Newman was notable enough to have an article here. If and when this is moved into article space, it's likely to be nominated as a bio of a non-notable person. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:50, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

You asked me for further comment. The article looks a lot better, and I think it has enough points to demonstrate the subject's notability, which is very important. Citations are sitll a problem, and I can suggest some other improvements.

The is a lot of information for just 1 paragraph. Make the first section a brief summary, using the first 2 sentences you already have. Put the rest in a new section by inserting a heading (perhaps "Biography") and make each topic or occupational endeavour a separate paragraph, which is done with double spacing. A single line break does not start a new line, though it looks like it does in the edit box.

Song, story, and poem titles should be surrounded by double quotes. Book titles (and other things like record album titles, and, I think, titles of newspapers and magazines, and probably the Anvil Revue) should be in italics. To make text show in italics, surround it with 2 single quotes on each side. Example: "Black Cross" from Perishable Poems.

A list of published works could be shown again in list form, in a separate Bibliography section. It would need to be properly formatted with publisher names, etc.

Do not use reference tags to link to other Wikipedia articles. Make the article name a wikilink using square brackets. Even if Wikipedia pages could be used for citation, those pages would not be adequate, because neither the Bob Dylan nor Lord Buckley articles mention the song or poem "Black Cross", so they do not back up what is being stated in this article. I do notice there are 2 other Dylan related articles that do mention the song, but again, WIkipedia cannot use itself as a citation. You might look at what those other articles are using for citations, and if it backs up what you need to have cited, you can use the same citations.

So your biggest problem now, is to find more citations. Ideally, every fact in an article should be backed up with a citation. In real life, they aren't always, but you do need to have some for the key points, such as the companies he worked for. Even though you are related to Newman, you may be getting some of your information from published sources that are available to everyone (they don't necessarily need to be online, as long as they were published somewhere), and these can be used for citation.

Hope this is useful. Let me know if you would like more help. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 12:40, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I haven't replied in a while, I've been away from Wikipedia for a week. The article looks good, and is ready to move to an article space. I recommend moving the whole page using the "move" tab near the top of the screen, which will preserve edit history (, but uncheck the "move talk page" option on the next page. Congrats on your article! --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 11:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

File source problem with File:JosephSNewman.jpg

File Copyright problem

Thanks for uploading File:JosephSNewman.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link. Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the image is copyrighted under a non-free license (per Wikipedia:Fair use) then the image will be deleted 48 hours after 02:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC). If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. (ESkog)^(Talk) 02:05, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:JosephSNewman.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:JosephSNewman.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under fair use but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia constitutes fair use. Please go to the file description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 02:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:JosephSNewman.jpg

File Copyright problem

Thank you for uploading File:JosephSNewman.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the file. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their license and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following this link.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 02:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)