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Your submission at Articles for creation: Predictive Skip tracing (May 8)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by MatthewVanitas was:

You can't cite Wikipedia on itself, that's circular logic.

You need to find news articles, books, etc. that specifically discuss "Predictive Skip tracing", get facts from those, and cite your sources (see WP:REFB for how to make footnotes).

Alternately, if there isn't enough coverage of "Predictive Skip tracing" to make its own article, maybe just a new section at Skip tracing?

Articles generally require significant coverage
in reliable sources
that are independent of the topic.

Explanation: Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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MatthewVanitas (talk) 02:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Vunoo! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! MatthewVanitas (talk) 02:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Citing Wikipedia[edit]

In brief, please don't.

In this edit, you cite Wikipedia.

Above, MatthewVanitas writes "You can't cite Wikipedia on itself, that's circular logic." It isn't, but nevertheless you can't. It's proper for the author of a book to take what's in her section 5.6 as premiss for what she writes in section 7.3, and, if it seems helpful, to write in the latter "(see section 5.6 above)" or similar. No circular logic in that. Similarly, if a Wikipedia article deftly summarizes the sources that it laboriously specifies, common sense says that you should cite the Wikipedia article, or the relevant part of it, rather than the sources. However, common sense applies to Wikipedia only intermittently. Policy dictates that we do not cite Wikipedia:

Content from websites whose content is largely user-generated is also generally unacceptable. Sites with user-generated content include . . . most wikis including Wikipedia. . . .

Contrary to first impressions, this actually does make good sense. (And although "generally" may make you think that loopholes exist, these loopholes are very minor indeed.)

Therefore, laborious though it may be, please faithfully provide a reliable source for everything that you write, remembering that Wikipedia should not be regarded as a reliable source. (You may, if you wish, consider this as Wikipedia's institutional modesty.)

Happy editing! -- Hoary (talk) 09:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

South Ripley, Queensland[edit]

What exactly were you trying to say here? It seemed a bit confused. Something about schools I gather. If you need help, please ask. Kerry (talk) 03:43, 8 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]