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New proposal

Happy New Year again Sportsguy! please check this out User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox5 and move it to Sausage Party (film) - Waiting for your action, thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 18:46, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Proposal 3

There may or may not be a missing word in point 1 of Proposal 3, and it looks like ChrisGualtieri may have misread it (sounds like he thinks he can't touch the articles, which I don't think is what you meant), so you might want to clarify. —Steve Summit (talk) 01:37, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Into the Storm (2014 film)

Hello, please take a look at User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox1 and move it to Into the Storm (2014 film) - if it's okay. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:29, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

You instructed me to ping you when I have addressed your concerns. I think I have.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:03, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Forgot to mention, but  done. Sportzilla | ROARR!! 22:08, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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Blackbird (2014 film)

Please review this User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox3 and move it to Blackbird (2014 film) - Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:29, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Sports, please take a look at sandbox, give it a minute - thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:20, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
 Done -- Moved and also, I missed your message, my apologies. Sportsguy17 (TC) 03:23, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
No problem :) - I thought you're ignoring me or busy some where. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:41, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
I was busy with an essay, but I was not ignoring you . As always, feel free to come to me with drafts. I will be busy for the nest 10 days, since my semester ends January 17 and I have some semester and midterm exams to take. Luckily, not all of my professors are giving me exams. Sportsguy17 (TC) 03:45, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Yeah I know, it's hard to get time out of exams days, these things are after study so give your study full time. I don't take much time, you know, just review sandbox and move if it is good, that's it. By the way thanks for help and keep yourself busy in study. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 06:12, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Check this out now User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox1, and move it to The Legend of Michael Mishra - thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 10:01, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

What's your malfunction dude? Did you read the edit, or did you just assume because I'm anon and deleted something that I vandalized. The page had an ad complaint and I've been attempting to revise it, but bots and presumptive users such as yourself keep inhibiting the process. I'm going to try it again, and you're going to look it over, and then you're going to do nothing because I'm in the right on this, and you're being the kind of bureaucratic little shit that made me quit this site 5 years ago. 142.136.138.10 (talk) 02:38, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Dude you're blanking a complete section. It is really written like an advertisement. That said, bring a copy to your sandbox if you want to rewrite it, but you may not tell editors not to edit an article, see WP:OWN: that comment above is a WP:OWN attitude and keep it cool. We all mistakes, even the Bots. But blanking part of the article will only ping the bot to revert you and it doesn't improve the article at all, it might even make it worse. Sportsguy17 (TC) 02:44, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

[redacted- high tensions all around]. We'll agree to disagree on OWN, STiki, when blanking is "blanking", and when it's appropriate notwithstanding. One article down, millions to go. Happy new years mate. 142.136.138.10 (talk) 03:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Trust me, I understand that tensions can get high. Just keep it cool, because it has deleterious effects to both sides. I appreciate your redaction, albeit you could've said a lot worse. I hope you've settled into 2014. Sportsguy17 (TC) 03:28, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Gods Of Egypt (film)

Hello Sports, please take a look at User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox2 and move it to Gods Of Egypt (film) - thanks for help. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 18:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

 Done -- Sportsguy17 (TC) 18:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 18:31, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

99 Homes

Please take a look at User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox5 and move it to 99 Homes - thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 04:29, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the update on how you are doing. A while ago I took some time and trouble to offer you some advice, when it would have been easier to just walk away and leave you. I did that because I thought there was a good chance that if you thought about things and made an effort you could get past the rocky start you had had here. It looks as though I was right, and that's great. It's great for you, and great for Wikipedia. I haven't been watching you, so I had no idea what you had been up to (though it turns out that, without realising it, I have sometimes almost stepped on your heels: [1]) but I have now had a look at some of your recent edits, and you are clearly doing some good work. Keep going. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:49, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh wow you really were right on my heels. Right now, I'm mostly working at getting some baseball and [American] football articles to GA and/or FA status. Thanks for the kind words. Sportsguy17 (TC) 18:45, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hey bro, I sent a message at the top of the section. Now personally requesting you to join the drive and improve some stubs here. We'll really appreciate your help.--Pratyya (Hello!) 13:46, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

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Tekken: A Man Called X

Hello Sports, please take a look at User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox2 and move it to Tekken: A Man Called X - Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 15:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Manny Ramirez

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Hershey Bears

Hey, just wanted to check if you were still planning to do the GA review for the Hershey Bears page, since there hasn't been a response for some time. Let me know! — Hunter Kahn 18:22, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm very sorry for not getting to it. My classes have been time-consuming, since my semester ended yesterday, so I had a lot of midterm exams and some are coming up. I will not be available most of today, but should be able to finish it through Sunday and Monday. Sportsguy17 (TC) 14:10, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

RfA

If you have something constructive to say at RfA which you feel will help a bureaucrat's decision, please do it, but please consider moderating your language - RfA has enough problems as it is. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:46, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Inaam Ghar

Hello, Please take a look at User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox1 and move it to Inaam Ghar - thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 19:55, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

 Not done -- This article, even for a stub is way too incomplete and short to be in mainspace right now. It needs to ber expanded into sections, add an infobox, etc. Sportsguy17 (TC) 19:57, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
Review it now. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:53, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 Done -- Thanks for expanding. Sportsguy17 (TC) 03:54, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, and please make an alternate spelling article Inam Ghar and redirect it to Inaam Ghar. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 04:08, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for 2000–01 Louisville Cardinals men's basketball team

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Hi Sportsguy; I'm afraid I've had to remove 2000–01 Louisville Cardinals men's basketball team from your submission page. While it's a great little article, it was mostly written last year, it was nominated last year, and it was expanded to the length it needed to be last year, and so it's not eligible for this year's WikiCup. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me on my talk page. Thanks, J Milburn (talk) 17:31, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Yikes, that was a dumb mistake. Anyway, thanks for the notification and let me trout myself . Sportsguy17 (TC) 02:28, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Survivor (film)

Hello, please take a look at User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox1, and move it to Survivor (film) - the filming has begun already, sources added, thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 09:36, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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Move like this

I liked your appreciating honesty, - one link goes to "awesomely weird", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Sportsguy17 (TC) 02:06, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Did you know that his blue duck attacks the German Main page right now? I guess with 28 bites, - had to happen on the 28th ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK hook promotion

Hi, just to note that in neither of the edits during promotion did you "indicate which prep area you are moving the hook to". Just a heads up, thanks, Matty.007 21:03, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Unless I'm mistaken, isn't it common to put it into the first prep area, since that's the next one to be moved to the queue? Tell me if I'm wrong, but it's illogical IMO to put a newly promoted hook into a completely empty prep area that doesn't go into the queue for another 40 hours than to put it in a half-full prep area that is almost overdue for the queue. I've never promoted before Matty.007, so please correct me if I'm wrong . Sportsguy17 (TC) 21:35, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
No, what I was saying is that in the edit summary you need to say to (for example) 'To P2', i.e. Prep area 2. Thanks, Matty.007 11:22, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
@Matty.007: -- Oh I gotcha know. Yeah, in that case, my mistake. Thanks for making me aware. That was my first time moving a hook and promoting one, so my apologies. Sportsguy17 (TC) 17:38, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

The Night Crew

Hello, please check out User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox4 and move it to The Night Crew - thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:55, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Sporty, will you please give me a second here? :) --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:32, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
 Done -- It for some reason wasn't letting me move it earlier, but it finally worked. Have fun. Sportsguy17 (TC) 17:36, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

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The Diary of a Teenage Girl

Hello, please take a look at User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox2 and move it to The Diary of a Teenage Girl - thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 19:23, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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More on the etiquette of DYK

Hi. I see that you approved the hook for Premier League Golden Glove, then moved it into one of the prep areas. For future reference, I want you to know that DYK "etiquette" says that, under normal circumstances, the same person shouldn't approve a hook and move it to prep. Having different people do these jobs provides an extra level of review -- to prevent errors. I approved that prep set for the queue after checking it out, but I wanted you to know the proper procedure for the future. Thanks for your contributions! --Orlady (talk) 05:39, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Got it. I'm fairly new to the whole process, so I used what I thought was logical, but obviously I will defer to wikiquette and I'll remember for next time. Thanks. Sportsguy17 (TC) 01:08, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of 2001–02 Louisville Cardinals men's basketball team

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 Fixed Sportzilla | ROARR!! 22:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

MBTA Commuter Rail roster

I totally agree with the result of your edit here; north/southside assignments aren't within the purview of Wikipedia. However, you should know that it's not necessarily original research - there is a source that can be cited. This roster is for all intents and purposes an official document; it is updated daily by someone who very clearly works at the MBTA (due to the high level of access required to know where equipment is). It's used for internal purposes as well as external, so the management tacitly allows it. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Pi.1415926535. While what you say is understandable, the given statement I removed is not verifiable. It does have its roster in the document, but nowhere does it say anything of route assignments, such as a generic example like Locomotive 1024 is assigned to the Framingham/Worcester Line, while 1065 is used on the CapeFLYER. There is slim to no chance that a reliable source about route assignments exist. That said, I understand your concerns and I did look through MBTA's website to see if I could find anything first. Thanks. Sportsguy17 (TC) 22:53, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Route assignments are much more variable - a single set may run on multiple lines out of the same terminal in a single day - while north/south assignments tend to be pretty constant. The statement you removed, while not appropriate for Wikipedia, is in fact verifiable on that roster (the "Active passenger locomotive assignment Snap Shot" section at the end of the locomotive roster). Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:49, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
Sure enough, locomotive assignments do exist in the document. That said, as stated above, it can really vary. Sportsguy17 (TC) 00:15, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Ed Oxenbould

Hey Sports, I'll be glad if you take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ed Oxenbould. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 18:19, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

@Bgwhite:, please check out my talk page too, what a mess there of PRODs. Articles have enough sources to have an article, I didn't create them directly but if those have been created they have enough sources. All the biography articles have significant roles in TVs and films, just Courtney Eaton have both future films but she has filmed lead role in Mad Max, in which she got fame. S. Craig Zahler has written a released film, and have other future projects, I added with sources. And now about films' articles, those can be redirected to their parents' articles for now, like Tarzan, Adaline, Pitch Perfect 2, and Last Days in the Desert to their directors. While Max Steel has parent page, and Someone Marry Barry has completed filming and source confirmed its released date. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 18:48, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Assassin, I agree with the Prod of Courtney Eaton. Not really any refs about her. The movie is a year away and she is not the title character. There is more info about Oxenbould and he is the title character in the upcoming Disney film. I'm not say a Disney film is more important or better than others, just they have a publicity machine.
S. Craig Zahler is more difficult. The Prod states he has only written one screenplay. While that is true, it is not necessarily a reason for deletion. There are more references about Zhaler that might make him notable.
Personally, I don't see Eaton passing an AfD, so let it be deleted. I'd contest the Prod on Zahler. Bgwhite (talk) 19:26, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
As you say Bgwhite, I'll follow you, leave Eaton to the other admins. But what about films' articles, redirects will be better for now if they are not much significant or have enough sources to have an article. When filming commenced, redirect edits will be undone then with addition of reliable sources. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 19:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Captain: Please keep in mind that the central point of your block was your strong desire to start film articles too soon and create redirects out of a desire to somehow get "credit" for them. It would probably look better for you in the long run if you let the prods expire and allow someone else to create any appropriate redirects. - SummerPhD (talk) 23:02, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

@Captain Assassin!: - Please read the note I left on your talk page. There is a scent of your old behavior returning and it does not end anywhere good, so please stop, listen, and focus on quality over quantity. Sportsguy17 (TC) 01:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

The Face of an Angel

Will you please take a look at User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox5, and move it to The Face of an Angel - Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:46, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

 Done - Much better . Keep coming to me or Bgwhite anytime. Sportsguy17 (TC) 17:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks and sorry, I didn't mean to do that or wasn't gotten greedy to get credits. It was just, I saw some articles are created before the filming commenced. Otherwise why would I do such hard works on those articles if I knew this would happen. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Hero (2014 film)

Hello Sports, please move User:Captain Assassin!/sandbox5 to Hero (2014 film). The filming has begun, given sources confirmed. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 04:44, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for 2001–02 Louisville Cardinals men's basketball team

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