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Date format[edit]

I see you have changed my correction of the date format on Otzma Yehudit. We have a manual of style on date formats (WP:MOSDATE) and they must be either "19 July 2017" or "July 19, 2017"; you cannot use "19th". Please could you correct it. Thanks, Number 57 23:39, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

On it, sorry wasn't aware of the format. ShimonChai (talk) 23:40, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Ben Ari[edit]

You may wanna take a look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_Ben-Ari&diff=793312505&oldid=792952705--190.137.234.135 (talk) 00:18, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, thank you for informing me, however I can't edit the page anymore since the user access level required to has been changed, no doubt that it was an attempt by a bias editor (proof in the fact that the sources used are known for being bias.) in an attempt to try and silence any sort of attempt to make Wikipedia less biased. So sadly I cannot do anything about said editor changing it back. ShimonChai (talk) 02:26, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, the article was already deleted wasn't it? That was also around a month or two ago, I don't know why this is being opened back up.ShimonChai (talk) 22:53, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Weasel wording[edit]

Please avoid adding weasel words (such as "supposed") in articles like you did at radical feminism. EvergreenFir (talk) 23:49, 11 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Date formatting[edit]

Hello Shimon. When writing dates on Wikipedia, please don't use informal contractions like "Jan 4" – you need to spelling it out in full. For Israel-related articles, "4 January" would be the preferred way. Cheers, Number 57 18:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC) Sorry, thought abbreviation worked, I just remembered that you can't use a comma. ShimonChai (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Social Exclusion[edit]

Yay and hello User:ShimonChai, I applaud your effort and time to make the article Social exclusion a better one so as to inform the world properly. However, editing so much in different parts of the article at a go was not too good. Other editors, like I watching the page would have loved it if you made the edits section by section and gave a summary of your edit each time.

Would you love me to revert your last edit on the article so you contribute to it properly?

Danidamiobi (talk) 10:20, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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My grounds for making such drastic edits all at wants were at they were all unsourced or pov, which to my understand means that they can be removed. If you want to revert it, go ahead, I can't stop you, but I probably won't try and edit it again in all honesty. ShimonChai (talk) 12:13, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]


No Shimon, I would not revert your edits. I don't believe in undoing people's efforts at the convenience of a click from my armchair. What you did was the best for the article. This article is being used by sociologists, social workers and activists all over the world and they would be thankful for this. But this is a collaborative work, breaking your edits into batches or similar actions and summarizing each rather than combining it all is good team work because you, we can't be all right on some things that look so. Danidamiobi (talk) 14:11, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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STACKLEAK[edit]

חג סוכות שמח!

I have written some comments in Talk:Linux_kernel. Balmaz (talk) 20:58, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

White privilege[edit]

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I pointed out my problems with several citations one by one, and was met with no response. Yet when people mindlessly complain everyone shows up to comment and participate on that page? Weird. I have no interest in continuing the arguments on that page. ShimonChai (talk)

Research Project[edit]

Hi ShimonChai

I'm an anthropology student doing an online research project on wikipedians and their motivations and ideals for writing and editing wikipedia pages. I was wondering if you would be interested in answering a few questions I have - sort of like a small online interview.

Best Karoline Husbond (Student at University of Texas Austin) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Karohusb — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karohusb (talkcontribs) 21:41, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@Doug Weller:: What exactly was the problem with one of my edits that caused you to put this on my page? ShimonChai (talk) 14:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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2017 Women's March[edit]

maybe a couple of words should be added that explain how this alleged conversation affected the Women's March. I think that would be an improvement, because currently that is unclear so people who read the article don't know if the alleged conversation is relevant to the march. i sure didnt.

I dont think its an editwar, I remove something and ask for evidence, first you put it back saying there is evidence but you don't show it, so i remove it and then I add it back in after you post evidence.

With subjects like these we should always be very careful.

do you think that it would be a good idea to add something to the article that explains how this affected the march (bad press/other groups distancing themselves).

The VOX article you linked to says:

In the wake of the allegations, the Democratic National Committee and progressive groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center have distanced themselves from Women’s March, Inc

When i read about a link to the NOI I started to understand the allegation better because the NOI is openly antisemitic; for people who don't know about that link the allegation is rather surprising (and bizarre).

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@Libby Kane:: Hello,

First thing: "I dont think its an editwar, I remove something and ask for evidence, first you put it back saying there is evidence but you don't show it, so i remove it and then I add it back in after you post evidence." The reason I brought up that rule was strictly because you reverted my revert of removal of sourced content in dispute, before WP:CON was met.. Generally speaking, removing Wikipedia:Reliable sources requires some sort of consensus especially when the initial removal is reverted. Though I agree that better citations could have been used later on. When the Tablet section was initially added shortly after the event occurred the initial impact of the report itself was what was being covered, and not the impact on the Women's March as a whole, and on a local level, and in that respect the article is fairly outdated.

However, the section was entitled "Organizers" which mostly deals with the Organizers specifically, and the articles cited were talking about the organizers within the context of the Womens March as the main focus of the article, for instance "Women’s March Roiled by Accusations of Anti-Semitism", well it does focus on the Organizers specifically (the topic of that section of the article.), It was talking about them within the wider context of them being leaders of the Women's March, and not as separate from that. Though you are correct, I should have started off by responding to you by linking citations on how it was impacting the wider movement at large.

"do you think that it would be a good idea to add something to the article that explains how this affected the march (bad press/other groups distancing themselves)." Yes, I completely agree that it would be a good idea to expand upon that section further due to more recent coverage that has gone more in depth on how the controversy has changed and impacted the Women's March as a movement. (i.e local groups starting to disaffiliate with the national group.) ShimonChai (talk) 05:48, 21 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

before you posted evidence it seemed like that paragraph gave undue attention to a very serious (and bizarre) allegation against two individuals in an article about an event attended by thousands of people, that is why i removed it and only put it back after i had read the evidence. I spend some time reading about the allegations and there are facebook posts talking about the NOI which is an organization that believes that "the" white man is the devil and that "the" jews are responsible for all things they believe to be bad (not just the slave trade (which is bad), but for example also homosexuality (which is neutral)). So in that context the allegations are way more believable. The fact that the DNC and the SPLC and local groups distanced themselves from the national group is important information because it shows that this is not just a random allegation against some individuals without any consequences but something that had a huge impact on the organisation as a whole. Please think about how we can explain this in the article; I will do the same. Libby Kane (talk)

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Just an FYI, these were inline citations. The meaning of this term is a citation that is placed in or at the end of a sentence, and contrasts with a general reference added at the bottom of an article. Number 57 16:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, miss-typed, I meant WP:INTEXT. ShimonChai (talk) 16:11, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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@Triggerhippie4:, thank you for informing me about this. I haven't been active in awhile, but I left a comment because I have had issues writing the infobox on Israeli politicians before who are notable for other reasons so this seems like a useful proposal. ShimonChai (talk) 23:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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