User talk:RudolfoMD
August 2023[edit]
Hello, I'm Sundayclose. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Brincidofovir, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 13:55, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Info I added was obviously verifiable and not reasonably disputable; Sources were obvious; added. --RudolfoMD (talk) 10:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Apparently reality is a contentious topic. If you think I made an edit inconsistent with these expectations, please identify the content and expectation and explain. RudolfoMD (talk) 07:35, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
- Your comments at Talk:Peter Navarro show a misunderstanding of how article talk pages should be used. For one thing, putting "Fauci used taxpayer money to finance a Chinese laboratory ..." in a heading is a WP:BLP violation no matter how artfully the following wording is phrased. Your opinion about what a pdf says is not useful at Wikipedia. If you have a reliable source saying that an assertion in the article is false or misleading, specify the source and the wording that should be corrected, and why. Otherwise, you should find another topic to work on because much more of the same will result in a topic ban. The point about contentious topics is that they are contentious and time-wasting, repetitive yet content-free arguments need to stop. Johnuniq (talk) 09:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
Oops - I thought the idea that NIAID had funded research under which SARSr viruses gained the ability to infect human and monkey cells (Vero E6 and HeLa) with ACE2 receptors was widely accepted; I didn't think informed people still seriously disputed that. I regret the assumption. The ensuing discussion has showed is that there are still some who consider the idea to be not just disputed, but baseless conspiracy theory! My assumption apparently resulted in a lot of hostility and bad faith assumptions about me personally.
- I don't understand something: the Navarro article is a BLP and has stated for some time, "During a Fox News appearance in March 2021, Navarro echoed a baseless conspiracy theory that Fauci [...] used taxpayer money to finance a Chinese laboratory where it was supposedly developed" so I presume that that is not a WP:BLP violation. So then how can putting the same phrase - "Fauci used taxpayer money to finance a Chinese laboratory ..." in a heading on a talk page be a WP:BLP violation? Are you saying the ... part is a BLP violation?
- Are you saying the email in which Dr. Fauci wrote, “scientists in Wuhan University are known to have been working on gain-of-function experiments to determine that molecular mechanisms associated with bat viruses adapting to human infection, and the outbreak originated in Wuhan.” is not real or not a reliable source? Surely this FOIA'd government documents is not an unreliable source.
- I am reviewing the paper entitled “Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus”[1] to see if indeed it is the case that, as the Rand PDF claims, it described in-depth the research carried out at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and funded through NIAID Award R01AI110964. Dr. Zheng-Li Shi details the research in which the spike genes from two uncharacterized bat SARS-related coronavirus strains, Rs4231 and Rs7327, were combined with the genomic backbone of another SARS-related coronavirus to create novel chimeric SARS-related viruses that showed cytopathic effects in primate epithelial cells and replication in human epithelial cells. These experiments combined genetic information from different SARS-related coronaviruses and combined them to create novel, artificial viruses able to infect human cells. This research, funded under NIAID Award R01AI110964, meets the definition of gain-of-function research. If it does I think I can do / am doing what you said I should - present reliable sources (the email and the journal article) backing my rejected edit indicating that an assertion in the article is false or misleading. But if I haven't and can't then I certainly shall stop. I thought the idea that NIAID had funded research under which SARSr viruses gained the ability to infect human and monkey cells (Vero E6 cells and HeLa cells) was widely accepted. The paper does indeed show that experiments were performed on SARSr viruses whereby two, identified in the paper as WIV1-Rs4231S and WIV1-Rs7327S were described as having gained the ability to infect human and monkey cells (Vero E6 cells and HeLa cells), and was supported by funding of authors Peter Daszak (PD) and Zheng-Li Shi (ZLS) via the National Institutes of Health (NIAID R01AI110964 grant), and the USAID Emerging Pandemic Threats (EPT) PREDICT program. This is done in the "Rescue of bat SARSr-CoVs and virus infectivity experiments" and "Funding" sections. Authors state, "Using the reverse genetics technique we previously developed for WIV1 [23], we constructed [...] chimeric SARSr-CoVs". I'm finding everything in the quote checks out except perhaps the last sentence. I may need a source connecting the dots in one respect. We know - we have proof Fauci knew: "scientists in Wuhan University are known to have been working on gain-of-function experiments to determine that molecular mechanisms associated with bat viruses adapting to human infection" but it's a small leap to say "This research, funded under NIAID Award R01AI110964, meets the definition of gain-of-function research." I can't yet eliminate the possibility the statements are about different research.
--RudolfoMD (talk) 07:13, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- I stand by the above but perhaps I can keep it short: In short The Intercept[2] and the peer-reviewed paper and grant it refers to[1] and USGov bat coronavirus grant R01AI110964 serve as a reliable source of expert opinion for these two edits, or something along along those lines: [1] and [2]. It shows that most experts believe that the "Fauci ... had used taxpayer money to finance a Chinese laboratory" part of what Wikipedia is calling a baseless conspiracy theory, isn't baseless, but rather true. You instructed me, "If you have a reliable source saying that an assertion in the article is false or misleading, specify the source and the wording that should be corrected, and why." Done. No? If you think different wording explaining the part that is now likely true would be better, can you suggest some, Johnuniq? Or do you believe that these sources refute no part of the article's text it's "a baseless conspiracy theory : Fauci was the “father” of the virus and had used taxpayer money to finance a Chinese laboratory where it was supposedly developed"? Johnuniq?
- --RudolfoMD (talk) 07:13, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
- If you are attempting to ping me, it hasn't worked—I have not received any notifications from you. Pings require a new comment (not an edit) with a new signature. See Help:Notifications. Rather than repeat attacks against a living person, you should be responding at the ANI report. That's not compulsory, but failing to respond suggests contempt for standard community procedures. Johnuniq (talk) 08:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- I don't understand. I didn't just write the above, contrary to what you seem to have inferred. I wrote the above a week ago, long before the ANI report, which I don't know how to respond to because I see inaccuracies in so many of the claims and the overall gist that it seems unlikely to be coincidence. I can't leave it up to the admins to make their own judgement? How should I respond? Is there a policy? (It seems to me that assuming no response to be contempt would be assuming bad faith.) I had started writing a response and thought it wiser not to, and now I see you are pushing me to respond, but you also don't seem to want to even discuss The Intercept reporting covered.
- Are you saying it's against policy/I'm not allowed to quote from the Intercept about Fauci because that's attacking a living person? I feel frustrated - I see misrepresention at ANI and see you refusing to respond to my week-old questions by clarifying, and instead are giving instructions that I find are also unclear. So I'm not feeling well. Please consider directly replying to what I wrote a week ago at some point. If you're trying to be helpful. If you don't, I'll take that as confirmation you want me to stop editing. RudolfoMD (talk) 08:42, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding "
I didn't just write the above, contrary to what you seem to have inferred.
", I was thinking of the two links to my user page above, including one added 21 minutes before my comment (07:38, 1 September 2023). People don't need every inaccuracy refuted. It would be desirable to pick out, say, two of the most significant problems with the report and briefly explain why they are inaccurate. It's normal at noticeboards (including ANI) for people to put their differing views and for others to comment.My opinion on whether certain sources refute something is not relevant to what I wrote. My earlier comment above concerned WP:BLP and a claim you made in (diff) where you created a new section with heading "Fauci used taxpayer money to finance a Chinese laboratory where [SARS-CoV-2] was [perhaps] developed is NOT "a baseless conspiracy theory" per reliable sources these days
". The use of qualifiers like "perhaps" is not acceptable because it is obvious that such wording looks like an attempt to assert that Fauci did something bad. I haven't read your sources and have no opinion on the matter other than that a quick skim of Anthony Fauci fails to show any support for the notion conveyed in your text. That's not conclusive of course, but if what you suggest is true, it obviously belongs in Fauci's article. Johnuniq (talk) 11:03, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Regarding "
- SandyGeorgia, do you think I need to reply to the ANI?
- I was going to respond to you:
- Thanks.
- Yes, mustn't lose my temper even when someone endangers readers by removing notice of a black box warning from an article, citation or no.
- Kudos on covering Wakefield's fraud - https://xtools.wmcloud.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/MMR_vaccine_and_autism. Interesting tool too. Wow.
- I can't leave it up to the admins to make their own judgement? This smear so distasteful. I think most of my article edits (some tool can tell?) have nothing to do with covid or vaccines. I assume good faith, but so many misrepresentations - like one that has been made thrice- "peddling allegations from a controversial US senator as a sole source" - I did no such thing, as the record shows - I, rather, brought up a senator's letter's cited sources and its news coverage, like The Intercept article I am trying to discuss above, as sources. RudolfoMD (talk) 10:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Rudolfo; I'm sorry to be "meeting" under these circumstances. I do appreciate your attempts to contribute to medical content, and regret such a rocky start. The reason Johnuniq had not responded to you is that the ping you sent was faulty; for a ping to be received by another editor, it has to be included with a new post that is signed. Johnuniq was trying to explain that above, but with a lot going on right now, I see it's difficult for you to understand everything and prioritize what should be your first response to whom and where. In general, the "accused" should always respond at ANI, even if the accusations seem faulty or in bad faith. I understand your frustration that many diffs in the ANI are misrepresented and fail to AGF, but I have mostly already pointed that out, so with an ANI thread that is already being bludgeoned, I hope you can let those misrepresentations go and let the facts speak for themselves. That is, keep your response short and to the point, and even when you feel there have been bad faith accusations, don't respond in kind. In general, I can tell you four things about Wikipedia that must become your bright line:
- Always focus on content; don't personalize discussions.
- Always take care with edit summaries; they are permanent, and you can't retract what you write in them, so they should always be absolutely neutral and informative and avoiding personalization of issues. Sundayclose was wrong to revert your factual addition, but many editors are prone to blindly reverting edits from new editors that don't have a WP:MEDRS source attached to them. But you were wrong to call them a "nutter", and that should result in a sincere apology from you. Without an apology at ANI for your inappropriate edit summaries, things might not go well.
- Make one revert a general policy; never ever edit war, and never re-revert if you've been reverted once (except for WP:BLP or blatant vandalism), until a thorough discussion has occurred on talk. That policy will save you a lot of agida on Wikipedia.
- Stay away from anything related to COVID. Period. It has always been a mess on Wikipedia, as a new editor you aren't going to fix that, and even restating what sources say will only result in problems. You have much to add in other medical topics, and COVID articles on Wikipedia are unlikely to ever be a good place to spend your time ... particularly as you learn which sources will always be rejected on Wikipedia even if they are reliable.
- Yes, the smear is distasteful, and I regret seeing that happen to a new editor, but the failure to AGF in most of the diffs speaks for itself and most observers will see through them (that is, most editors do AGF). I think you need to apologize for the edit summaries, acknowledge that you are new and didn't realize the sources you were using would be rejected in COVID content, simply state that your intent with the COVID posts was misunderstood and ask that others carefully read, recognize that you should never revert without discussion, and express regret for having engaged in an argument with WMrapids at the reliable sources noticeboard; you are by no means the first to be frustrated to the point of exasperation by them, but nonetheless, you are responsible for your own responses and behavior, and on Wikipedia, one has to always avoid taking the bait. My best advice with WMrapids is to let them have the last word, or you'll end up typing for the rest of your life :) So, yes, you should respond at ANI, but you should do so when you are able to respond to it without anger or frustration, with a short simple apology for where you went wrong and agreement to seek advice from more experienced editors going forward; it's OK to take your time to compose a response, since you are so obviously new to Wikipedia. Once again, I'm sorry this happened to you; I can only offer that I had similar happen when I was new 17 years ago, and the bad things that were done to me made me a better editor in the long run. We need knowledgeable medical editors, so I hope you'll not be too discouraged by this, and stick around! Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 10:44, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- PS, having now followed through on Johnuniq's post after mine, it is important also to understand how to use appropriate talk page headings; short and simple is best. Even if you had a rock-solid, high-quality source, and even if we weren't talking about a BLP, a more appropriate section heading would have been something simple like "Navarro claims on Fox news". It's Navarro's page, but both Navarro and Fauci are living persons, WP:BLP applies on all pages (even talk), and the point you were trying to make was lost because of the way you worded the section heading. You were seeking to change the words "baseless conspiracy theory" (not very encyclopedic) to "claims" (more encyclopedic), and that point was lost. This is part of why I advise you simply avoid COVID topics until you're more experienced; I'm as experienced as any medical editor, and won't touch them :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 11:34, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Rudolfo; I'm sorry to be "meeting" under these circumstances. I do appreciate your attempts to contribute to medical content, and regret such a rocky start. The reason Johnuniq had not responded to you is that the ping you sent was faulty; for a ping to be received by another editor, it has to be included with a new post that is signed. Johnuniq was trying to explain that above, but with a lot going on right now, I see it's difficult for you to understand everything and prioritize what should be your first response to whom and where. In general, the "accused" should always respond at ANI, even if the accusations seem faulty or in bad faith. I understand your frustration that many diffs in the ANI are misrepresented and fail to AGF, but I have mostly already pointed that out, so with an ANI thread that is already being bludgeoned, I hope you can let those misrepresentations go and let the facts speak for themselves. That is, keep your response short and to the point, and even when you feel there have been bad faith accusations, don't respond in kind. In general, I can tell you four things about Wikipedia that must become your bright line:
- If you are attempting to ping me, it hasn't worked—I have not received any notifications from you. Pings require a new comment (not an edit) with a new signature. See Help:Notifications. Rather than repeat attacks against a living person, you should be responding at the ANI report. That's not compulsory, but failing to respond suggests contempt for standard community procedures. Johnuniq (talk) 08:09, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b Hu, Ben; Zeng, Lei-Ping; Yang, Xing-Lou; Ge, Xing-Yi; Zhang, Wei; Li, Bei; Xie, Jia-Zheng; Shen, Xu-Rui; Zhang, Yun-Zhi; Wang, Ning; Luo, Dong-Sheng; Zheng, Xiao-Shuang; Wang, Mei-Niang; Daszak, Peter; Wang, Lin-Fa; Cui, Jie; Shi, Zheng-Li (November 2017). "Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus". PLoS pathogens. 13 (11): e1006698. doi:10.1371/journal.ppat.1006698. ISSN 1553-7374.
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Indicating to wikipedia readers when they visit a page on a pharmaceutical if it has a black box warning - the most severe warning the FDA mandates for a drug[edit]
Anyone want to work on this with me?
I challenge with the claim that https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkonrad/2023/11/17/these-are-the-people-that-fired-openai-ceo-sam-altman/?sh=26dd1a074ae9, which has 2 paragraphs entirely about her, does not constitute significant coverage. The article is entirely about her and the rest of the board. And it's by two Forbes staffers. Surely independent. Not to mention there's a ton more out there; OpenAI is worth ~$86 billion. Combined, that makes this decline highly inappropriate, no? RudolfoMD (talk) 19:19, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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Harassment concern[edit]
It looks as if you are starting to follow me round disruptively reverting my edits. What for example are you doing here?[3] I explained why I made that edit in my WP:ES, yet you did a regressive revert without comment. Bon courage (talk) 09:18, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- [Copied from your talk page where I already responded to the accusation] Holy moly. Your writing that in response to the comment above it [edit:on Bon's talk page] with sources proving it wrong before I've even responded is... EPIC. Controlled animal studies can show something to be carcinogenic even if epidemiological dietary evidence can't. Editing accordingly is the opposite of CRYSTAL.
FOLLOW NPOV. By all means, the article should and (IIRC) does mention that CRUK as of 2021 says the idea it causes cancer is a myth with no evidence, but don't' put it in wikipedia's voice. Why?
The problem is what you wrote is a medical claim that does not represent the balance of perspectives of high-quality, reliable secondary sources, not that I didn't read it. The sources are overwhelmingly on my side; I noted three of them in my previous comment. "You need to" back the hell off and not order people around.
I'm not following you. As you should know. I came here to follow up on (link to) your removing content from Burzynski Clinic without adequately explaining why, and then refusing to engage when I said: "researchers other than Burzynski and his associates have not been successful in duplicating his results" is outdated. You rejected my update. What update is acceptable to you? Then while on the page, I saw THIS discussion about and your hostility to Kku and looked into the issue about acrylamide.
Consider yourself warned about making frivolous or meritless complaints about another editor following you around. And your argument is so weak. Look at the LD50 of the carcinogen. They're right there in the acrylamide infobox. ~100mg. That not a lot. 50 packets of chips can have that much. And I'm sure plenty of people have had several packets of chips in a day and that many in a month. And it does seem to do harm according to doctors and blood tests. Criticizing someone for OR on user talk pages is lame. OR even says "This policy does not apply to talk pages and other pages which evaluate article content and sources, such as deletion discussions or policy noticeboards." SMH. And the WP:ES of my previous edit moments earlier to the same page explained the edit you ask about so shrilly. As does BRD. --RudolfoMD (talk) 10:38, 18 January 2024 (UTC)- Still no explanation about why you reverted my shortening of an over-long short description without comment.[4] Was this a follow & harass stunt? Because I'm sorry to say that's what it looks like. Bon courage (talk) 10:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's not true. As I said above,
And the WP:ES of my previous edit moments earlier to the same page explained the edit you ask about so shrilly. As does BRD.
And further above,I'm not following you. ... while on the page...acrylamide.
Stop harassing me. I've now warned you 4 times -Consider yourself warned about making frivolous or meritless complaints about another editor following you around
RudolfoMD (talk) 10:46, 19 January 2024 (UTC)- In fact it is true. You reverted a maintenance edit (my shortening of a shortdesc) with no comment. Given your lack of explanation I have to conclude that you did indeed follow me an article and reverted my edits, simply because they were my edits. Bon courage (talk) 11:21, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's not true. As I said above,
- Still no explanation about why you reverted my shortening of an over-long short description without comment.[4] Was this a follow & harass stunt? Because I'm sorry to say that's what it looks like. Bon courage (talk) 10:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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- The mobile visual editor is now the default editor for users who never edited before, at a small group of wikis. Research shows that users using this editor are slightly more successful publishing the edits they started, and slightly less successful publishing non-reverted edits. Users who defined the wikitext editor as their default on desktop will get the wikitext editor on mobile for their first edit on mobile as well. [34]
- The mw.config value
wgGlobalGroups
now only contains groups that are active in the wiki. Scripts no longer have to check whether the group is active on the wiki via an API request. A code example of the above is:if (/globalgroupname/.test(mw.config.get("wgGlobalGroups")))
. [35]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 February. It will be on all wikis from 29 February (calendar). [36][37]
Future changes
- The right to change edit tags (
changetags
) will be removed from users in Wikimedia sites, keeping it by default for admins and bots only. Your community can ask to retain the old configuration on your wiki before this change happens. Please indicate in this ticket to keep it for your community before the end of March 2024.
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MediaWiki message delivery 19:21, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-10[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The
Special:Book
page (as well as the associated "Create a book" functionality) provided by the old Collection extension has been removed from all Wikisource wikis, as it was broken. This does not affect the ability to download normal books, which is provided by the Wikisource extension. [38] - Wikitech now uses the next-generation Parsoid wikitext parser by default to generate all pages in the Talk namespace. Report any problems on the Known Issues discussion page. You can use the ParserMigration extension to control the use of Parsoid; see the ParserMigration help documentation for more details.
- Maintenance on etherpad is completed. If you encounter any issues, please indicate in this ticket.
- Gadgets allow interface admins to create custom features with CSS and JavaScript. The
Gadget
andGadget_definition
namespaces andgadgets-definition-edit
user right were reserved for an experiment in 2015, but were never used. These were visible on Special:Search and Special:ListGroupRights. The unused namespaces and user rights are now removed. No pages are moved, and no changes need to be made. [39] - A usability improvement to the "Add a citation" in Wikipedia workflow has been made, the insert button was moved to the popup header. [40]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 March. It will be on all wikis from 7 March (calendar). [41][42]
Future changes
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [43]
- The HTML markup of headings and section edit links will be changed later this year to improve accessibility. See Heading HTML changes for details. The new markup will be the same as in the new Parsoid wikitext parser. You can test your gadget or stylesheet with the new markup if you add
?useparsoid=1
to your URL (more info) or turn on Parsoid read views in your user options (more info).
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MediaWiki message delivery 19:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-11[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 March. It will be on all wikis from 14 March (calendar). [44][45]
- After consulting with various communities, the line height of the text on the Minerva skin will be increased to its previous value of 1.65. Different options for typography can also be set using the options in the menu, as needed. [46]
- The active link color in Minerva will be changed to provide more consistency with our other platforms and best practices. [47]
- Structured data on Commons will no longer ask whether you want to leave the page without saving. This will prevent the “information you’ve entered may not be saved” popups from appearing when no information have been entered. It will also make file pages on Commons load faster in certain cases. However, the popups will be hidden even if information has indeed been entered. If you accidentally close the page before saving the structured data you entered, that data will be lost. [48]
Future changes
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [49][50]
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-12[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The notice "Language links are at the top of the page" that appears in the Vector 2022 skin main menu has been removed now that users have learned the new location of the Language switcher. [51]
- IP info feature displays data from Spur, an IP addresses database. Previously, the only data source for this feature was MaxMind. Now, IP info is more useful for patrollers. [52]
- The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. [53][54][55]
- Communities can now customize the default reasons for undeleting a page by creating MediaWiki:Undelete-comment-dropdown. [56]
Problems
- RevisionSlider is an interface to interactively browse a page's history. Users in right-to-left languages reported RevisionSlider reacting wrong to mouse clicks. This should be fixed now. [57]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 March. It will be on all wikis from 21 March (calendar). [58][59]
- All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. [60][61]
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MediaWiki message delivery 17:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-13[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- An update was made on March 18th 2024 to how various projects load site, user JavaScript and CSS in Vector 2022 skin. A checklist is provided for site admins to follow.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 March. It will be on all wikis from 28 March (calendar). [62][63]
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MediaWiki message delivery 18:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-14[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Users of the reading accessibility beta feature will notice that the default line height for the standard and large text options has changed. [64]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar). [65][66]
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation has an annual plan. The annual plan decides what the Wikimedia Foundation will work on. You can now read the draft key results for the Product and Technology department. They are suggestions for what results the Foundation wants from big technical changes from July 2024 to June 2025. You can comment on the talk page.
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MediaWiki message delivery 03:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:International project team for antivirals in covid-19[edit]
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 19:05, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Concern regarding Draft:Brincidofovir[edit]
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Tech News: 2024-15[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Web browsers can use tools called extensions. There is now a Chrome extension called Citation Needed which you can use to see if an online statement is supported by a Wikipedia article. This is a small experiment to see if Wikipedia can be used this way. Because it is a small experiment, it can only be used in Chrome in English.
- A new Edit Recovery feature has been added to all wikis, available as a user preference. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the project talk page. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
- Initial results of Edit check experiments have been published. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at the wikis that tested it. Let us know if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check. [67][68]
- Readers using the Minerva skin on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings. [69]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar). [70][71]
- New accounts and logged-out users will get the visual editor as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. [72]
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-16[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using Flagged Revisions, the "Reverted" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed. [73][74]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar). [75][76]
- Default category sort keys will now affect categories added by templates placed in footnotes. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked). [77]
- A new variable
page_last_edit_age
will be added to abuse filters. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made. [78]
Future changes
- Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. Learn more.
- Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including Quarry). This affects only the
abuse_filter
andabuse_filter_history
tables. Some queries might need to be updated. [79]
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-17[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Starting this week, newcomers editing Wikipedia will be encouraged to try structured tasks. Structured tasks have been shown to improve newcomer activation and retention. [80]
- You can nominate your favorite tools for the fifth edition of the Coolest Tool Award. Nominations will be open until May 10.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 April. It will be on all wikis from 25 April (calendar). [81][82]
Future changes
- This is the last warning that by the end of May 2024 the Vector 2022 skin will no longer share site and user scripts/styles with old Vector. For user-scripts that you want to keep using on Vector 2022, copy the contents of Special:MyPage/vector.js to Special:MyPage/vector-2022.js. There are more technical details available. Interface administrators who foresee this leading to lots of technical support questions may wish to send a mass message to your community, as was done on French Wikipedia. [83]
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MediaWiki message delivery 20:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-18[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The appearance of talk pages changed for the following wikis: Azerbaijani Wikipedia, Bengali Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Persian Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Dutch Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Romanian Wikipedia, Thai Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Vietnamese Wikipedia. These wikis participated to a test, where 50% of users got the new design, for one year. As this test gave positive results, the new design is deployed on these wikis as the default design. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at all wikis in the coming weeks. [84]
- Seven new wikis have been created:
- You can now watch message groups/projects on Translatewiki.net. Initially, this feature will notify you of added or deleted messages in these groups. [92]
- Dark mode is now available on all wikis, on mobile web for logged-in users who opt into the advanced mode. This is the early release of the feature. Technical editors are invited to check for accessibility issues on wikis. See more detailed guidelines.
Problems
- Kartographer maps can use an alternative visual style without labels, by using
mapstyle="osm"
. This wasn't working in previews, creating the wrong impression that it wasn't supported. This has now been fixed. [93]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar). [94][95]
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MediaWiki message delivery 03:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:International project team for antivirals in covid-19[edit]
Hello, RudolfoMD. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "International project team for antivirals in covid-19".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:19, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Brincidofovir[edit]
Hello, RudolfoMD. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Brincidofovir".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 07:32, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-19[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The appearance of talk pages changed for all wikis, except for Commons, Wikidata and most Wikipedias (a few have already received this design change). You can read the detail of the changes on Diff. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at remaining wikis in the coming weeks. [96][97]
- Interface admins now have greater control over the styling of article components on mobile with the introduction of the
SiteAdminHelper
. More information on how styles can be disabled can be found at the extension's page. [98] - Wikimedia Enterprise has added article body sections in JSON format and a curated short description field to the existing parsed Infobox. This expansion to the API is also available via Wikimedia Cloud Services. [99]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar). [100][101]
- When you look at the Special:Log page, the first view is labelled "All public logs", but it only shows some logs. This label will now say "Main public logs". [102]
Future changes
- A new service will be built to replace Extension:Graph. Details can be found in the latest update regarding this extension.
- Starting May 21, English Wikipedia and German Wikipedia will get the possibility to activate "Add a link". This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to all Wikipedias. These communities can activate and configure the feature locally. [103]
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MediaWiki message delivery 16:42, 6 May 2024 (UTC)