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This is an archive. Make no changes here. Do not attempt to contact me via here. Thank you. ЯEDVERS 16:04, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks![edit]

for the * ! NawlinWiki 19:44, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gay[edit]

I deleted the vandalism about you being gay for you. Who did that, anyway? Block time? For sure.The mann hu new 2 much 20:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found out! The vandal is none other than user:MONGO! Block time? I think it'd be best. The mann hu new 2 much 20:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Apology[edit]

I feel that it is better if the public can read it:

"I an truley sorry for my homophobic, racist, and incivil comments, and i hope we can forget them, and build a stable freindship using a new account"

--Maxasus 10:49, 3 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: The Deletion of the 'Jay Mariotti' Entry[edit]

Dear REDVERS:

I see that the old Wikipedia entry for ‘Jay Mariotti’ has been deleted (“Logs”); that it was David Monniaux who undertook this action (17:41, 30 August 2006); and that the reason he gave is that “Almost all the sections in this article had big warnings complaining about lack of sources and contained potentially libelous material.”

What I myself had noticed about the old ‘Jay Mariotti’ entry, and have pointed out to different Wikipedia administrators in the past (including you), is that content-wise and organizational-wise, the entry read very much like a smear of its ostensible subject matter.

In fact, I noticed this the first time I ever looked at the entry (around June 24-25), and have tried to call it to several people’s attention.

Now I do not know whether Wikipedia archives the history of entries that are subsequently deleted. But if Wikipedia does, then I strongly urge administrators to take a look at the history of the now-deleted ‘Jay Mariotti’ entry. As I wrote to you on August 22 (“Merging ‘Jay the Joke’ into ‘Jay Mariotti’”), of the approx. 178 different versions of this Wikipedia entry that had existed through August 22, the entry remained tolerably accurate and fair through 06:58, 15 June 2006. But this ceased to be the case at 18:08, 21 June 2006 or shortly thereafter, and the entry ever since then had become so riddled with biases against its ostensible subject that it read like an expression of these biases, rather than an entry about the individual under whose name it appears.

Presumably, this kind of basic objection is what David Monniaux had in mind when he executed the decision to delete the entry in its entirety.

On a related matter, I am very intrigued by David Monniaux’s comment to a user named “Shermerville” that he regards “Shermerville” to be a “sockpuppet” (17:41, 30 August 2006). As I’ve also mentioned in the past, Wikipedia’s “anyone can edit” philosophy makes this project just as vulnerable to what we might call negative (or black) sockpuppeting as it does to the other, more positive self-promotional kind. Much of the history of the now-deleted ‘Jay Mariotti’ entry after 06:58, 15 June 2006 struck me as the product of negative sockpuppeting.

If there is any validity to this judgment at all, then David Monnaiux did well to delete the entry. Since its post-June 15 revisions paralleled very closely a negative publicity campaign that has been carried out against the Chicago Sun-Times’s sports columnist Jay Mariotti in recent months, Wikipedia might consider studying the post-June 15 revisions in this light.

Should you (or anyone else among the Wikipedia administrators) wish to pursue this with me further, feel free to email me at davidepet@comcast.net.

Thanks.


David Peterson 22:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC) (Chicago)[reply]


Unblock[edit]

Thank you! :) michael talk 03:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks![edit]

Thanks for your help with that IP block. If this happens to me again, could I contact the admin and have him/her do the block the other way? --P. B. Mann 03:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Fix Bayonets![edit]

I'll stop my discussion with him/her. My hope was, as Golbez's was initially, that the user would calm down and actually want to have a rational discussion. It kinda worked that way, but not really. Anyway, I'll take my leave from making comments to the user completely. · j e r s y k o talk · 20:47, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fix Bayonets![edit]

No problem. It doesn't count as a wheel war, I think, if you *amplify* my ban instead of negating it. ;) You have a point, he did not immediately withdraw the threat, until he does there can be no quarter given. And the funny thing is, I'm usually very draconian - I probably am in the top 10 of admins dealing out permabans, so the one time I decide to give the guy a chance... Oh well, I can still hope. You did the right thing. --Golbez 20:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to let you know, I've unblocked him, after he retracted all of his statements, but I suggest we both keep a close watch on him. --Golbez 01:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whos Playing 'Silly People'?[edit]

Hi.

Just logged on to add some more content to a thread I produced yesterday (about the radio station 99.9 Radio Norwich) and I see it's been edited. Not only this but someone/some people have been editing it to the extreme. Can anyone shine any light on this and explain whats been going on?? This station is very close to my heart and I thought the information was constructive and informative, yet it appears to have been vandlised. It doesn't encourage me to spend the time taking part in this site and sharing my wide and indepth knowledge of the UK radio scene. I suppose a few spoil it for the rest.... ;(

Cheers, Sean Sean Cooper 21:53, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Further to my posting above, is it possible to delete the whole page please? I've just been reading through all the edits and think to avoid further silly actions, edits, etc that it would be better to delete the whole page. It's quite discouraging to see so much silliness on a page I thought would be useful and informative, especially since I spent much time researching the details and double checking them. Think this would probably be best. Shame a few spoil it though...

Thanks, Sean Sean Cooper 22:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC) ;([reply]

Your graphic for CelestianPower[edit]

Hi Redvers. I would like to ask you how you made the graphic for CelestianPower that he put on his page. I really like it and I would enjoy it if you would make one for me or tell me how you made it so I can try. Thanks.--Chili14 02:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Even though you had declined my unblock request,I appreciate your taking time to give it a a thought.I am not perturbed by being blocked but exercising block on first impression when you really haven't cared to look into the matter is arbitrary and it happened with me second time in sucession even if I discount 1st block which was equally dubious.For reasons as asked by you plz see here.[1].Thanx  HW  08:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you[edit]

Super appreciate the barnstar...I also thank you for all your excellent work, and for supporting my efforts!--MONGO 23:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Barnstar[edit]

Hi Redvers! Thanks for giving me my first barnstar :)-- Anupamsr|talk |contribs  10:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

And thank you for mine too. Appreciated. :D The JPStalk to me 21:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously.[edit]

[2]. Thanks :) Mangojuicetalk 20:23, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adrian is blocked again[edit]

Any chance you could take a look? --Guinnog 21:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Autoblock removal[edit]

Thank-you so much for sorting this out. -Kieran 21:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

65.184.18.231[edit]

65.184.18.231 has put on my talk page that Im a sockpuppet for TripleH1976 as if this is fact. its entirely wrong and the association is slanderous. what is clear is that 65.184.18.231 has been making these personal attacks previously as WorkingHard and his sockpuppets - just look at the edits made for both and associated ip addresses and you can see hes been doing this for a long time. This user is a constant nuisance to Wikipedia. Please look into it. Cumberbund 18:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Graphic[edit]

Sorry for the delay, I've been busy. I think the design would be a clear background with my sig exactly like it looks now. Thank you and if you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Sorry once again for the delay!--Chili14 23:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Jessica Lunsford[edit]

This post revealed some personal details of another Wikipedia editor and has been removed. A reply, without the details, can be found here. ЯEDVERS 12:58, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

example.ogg[edit]

Hi, I noticed you removed my post about example.ogg on Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism. Sorry I cross-posted on its talk page. I googled it (restricted search to Wikipedia), and was going to put {{test}} tags on peoples' talk pages.. but I'm not so sure. Some instances appear to be IP vandalism; some appear to be good faith edits. Does CorHomo have malware in it? How are people spamming this link onto various pages? Tks --Ling.Nut 15:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You're right; user error. I am suitably embarrassed. Thanks for all the useful info! --Ling.Nut 16:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanks a lot[edit]

i can edit now

Justforasecond 17:03, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RefactorPro[edit]

Hi... I created a page RefactorPro which seems now to have been replaced with a redirect to Visual Studio. I guess this kinda makes sence as the original page did not have a lot of content and did not particularly extol the virtues of the product. This was because I was going to flesh out the page a little later. I have had similar notices placed on the developerExpress page which I create but was given a little more time to add detail to those. It seems a little harsh to just replace a page so soon after it's creation. Anyway what do I do about recreating this page? what type of content would justify it enough that it wouldn't get deleted again?

RoryBecker 19:15, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for welcoming me[edit]

Wow. I just joined like a few seconds ago, and I've already been welcomed. Thanks a lot. I'm actually looking for somebody who can design a cool userpage for me, so if you know any user who can do that, just tell me on my user page. Again, thanks! --Wildfire03 19:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Trying to understand what qualifies and what doesn't[edit]

I totally understand that we don't want to flood wikipedia with advertising,. this is a sensible policy. I would however like some clarification and maybe some advise :)

Let me elaborate. I use a free product called DXCore which is a framework for developing plugins for VS.net. Since it is free , does the advertising thing still apply? the rules say that I must make a case for a product's notability. the best way in this case is to point to products that have been developed with this framework. I could point to my own free ( and open source) products that I have developed, but i feel this would be construed as vanity. I find myself between a rock and a hard place because I feel that the information is certainly useful to others in my position.

I found a page (List of Microsoft Visual Studio Add-ins) linked from the bottom of the Studio Page which listed some comparable addins. I wonder if you could help me and point out for me, where my pages likely fell down in meeting criteria compared to these other pages. The pages in question are DXCore, RefactorPro and CodeRush. If you would also note that my page to DeveloperExpress(the company in question) has now been improved and has kinda been accepted (at least provissionally).

I was working on these 4 pages as a group (but like many people I got distracted by family and other things). My pages effectively got jumped on after 2 hours. it seems that I could have been given more time.

Should I attempt to recreate some of these pages? If so, what improvements should I make?

Thanks for your time

RoryBecker 19:55, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment in log[edit]

Hi Redvers, following your deletion log (following my request) where you wrote "User request: malfunctioning bot. Bot will need to be blocked if this happens again"; this bot is currently in testing (or rather, the particular function of the bot which made the wrong edit is in testing), and it is run only manually so that I can check what it does. So there should be no need to block it even if something similar would happen again (which I hope not, of course). In addition, it parses quite a few pages but does only 1 edit at each run, so it can not do much damage, even if I was not there to collect the pieces. In any case, thanks for the deletion. Cheers, Schutz 22:35, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Same timezone here, and I should be in bed too ;-) About the bot, to same you some time: the function I was testing (and another one currently in test) is described in the last line of the bot's page. Have a good night, Schutz 22:43, 9 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Jessica Lunsford[edit]

There was no identifying information in my post whatsoever. I do notice though that instead of admitting fault, you have again locked the entry as YOU see fit and not like OTHER inbcluding Admins have seen fit (the actual TRUE verifiable record.) You say you don't let your personal feelings interfere with your job on Wikipedia, well, you obviously do, and yes, It shows very well. 65.184.18.231 01:02, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey[edit]

lets put the past behind us, iv'e become a reformed gentleman after all our little problems! I have joined ezperanza and the Kindness Campaign and have symbolised my new start by obtaining a new user page and talk page, i hope you find it in your heart to forgive me. I also feel a BARNSTAR is needed for all you great work on providing graphics.

The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
I just thought i would thank you on behalf of everybody who you have created graphics for , well done for working so hard to create suitable graphics for users needs Jimothytrotter 08:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Redvers. I'm so happy your talking to me again, you don't realise what this means to me. From now on I will leave darren to do whatever he wants to do and will not let his problems anger me. I will advise darren to do the same.

-- JiMoThYTALK

become an admin[edit]

Hey Redvers, I was wondering how difficult it is to become an admin, when would you recommend applying, after a certain amount of posts maybe? do you have to have been a member ok wikipedia for a certain amount of time? or do you just have to do some good work for the site? I would like to eventualy reach the admin possition and will try my hardest to deserve to become one. -- JiMoThYTALK

cheers[edit]

thanks for that redvers, one last thing... is my new signature alrite? -- JiMoThYTALK

thanks for pointing that out, it didn't sound rude i did ask you for your opinion! is this better...
 JiMoThYTALK

Hey i nominated a pageMatthew_Aaron_Dillon created by User:Maarond for speedy deletion, he created a new article with a similar name, I nominated it for deletion and he removed the speedy delete tag again? what should be done?

 JiMoThYTALK

Thanks Redvers...[edit]

Thanks for lifting my autoblock, as a reward, have a wikicookie! (It would show, but my sloppy pogramming cocked it up! and i am supposed to be taking a DiDA ina years time, bah!)

--Maxasus 14:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I baked a whole batch! --Maxasus 14:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[edit]

Hello[edit]

Hey, I had words with darren and he has said that like me he agrees to move on, I just thought I would tell you. Please give him another chance, he's preomised not to annoy you again. Cheers JiMoThYTALK

A favour[edit]

This is a stange question but hey, will u delete my monobook file please? I think its corrupt, i get real probelms when I edit it with random text taking over the screen. I think it would be best to recreate the page! is this possible? if so can u do it a.s.a.p! JiMoThYTALK

Done JiMoThYTALK
just passing on a message Darren says he sent you an email. I don't know what it is about but he said "can you tell redvers to make sure that the email is kept confidential"

JiMoThYTALK
thanks for deleting the page!

ktip images[edit]

Hey, just wanted to let you know that Image:Crystal Clear Ktip.png has been replaced by Image:Crystal Clear app ktip.png and you will probably want to update your pages/templates. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 23:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the images[edit]

Thank you very much for making both of the images for me. I like both of them very much, but I am going to go with the second, more exciting one. Again, thank you very much!--Chili14 01:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering...[edit]

are you any good at user page design? even if your not could you please take a look at the comment I left my user page creator and see if you can get your head round it?! JiMoThYTALK

Thanks[edit]

Thank you for reverting the vandalism on my talk page. --Wildnox 16:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Thanks for helping unblock me! --Rifleman 82 19:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

apologies[edit]

I Understand that Redvers, nothing of the sort will happen again. Oh and don't worry I do not intend to copy the homework, I intend to use it to find out what it was we were supposed to be doing and i can then write my own, it would be stupid to copy courseork! expecially when we're in the same class and are both 7 weeks late handing it in!

Sorry -- JiMoThYTALK 19:43, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar[edit]

The Barnstar of Diligence
To Redvers and pgk for extraordinary perseverance in getting me unblocked. Dave 20:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Average Homeboy[edit]

Why was it deleted? 81.110.1.43 13:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for changing the block![edit]

Well, that kind of says it... Thanks! Ansell 09:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

AIV removal[edit]

The user I reported was blatant. Please see history of Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. They uploaded an image that got speedied so you didn't see it in the edit history. All those users are the same vandal and should all be blocked indef. Those other edits were dummy edits to trick people into thinking they aren't a vandal. VegaDark 11:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually, it did apply. I gave them the BV template after their first obvious act of vandalism of changing the image. They then proceeded to change the image again, 3 minutes after I had already warned them. So posting was appropriate on AIV. I think my accusation of them also being a sock was obvious, and I think the fact another admin indefinitely blocked the account in question (whereas you removed them from AIV without even a temp block, which would have been justified even if they hadn't been a sock IMO) supports that. Obvious socks are reported on AIV all the time (wether it officially should be or not), WP:SSP is used for not-so obvious socks. VegaDark 12:19, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Redvers[edit]

Tanks Redvers, you helped me now I will take your advice! I was wondering how you became an administrator, you must have worked really hard to get that. Masier 15:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Thanx, Redvers[edit]

Thanx, Redvers for welcoming me.

Bro, how does your signature lookin like that. Is there any way to make it look different ? Bye. Take care. --Hernan Javier 16:43, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

thanks![edit]

thanks for changing our school's block to anon only. it means real wiki users can still contribute! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dr zoidberg590 (talkcontribs) .

A question..[edit]

Is there an official warning for users that have created nonsense pages purely as tests, that can be put on there talk page, if so what is the template?-- JiMoThYTALK 17:33, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thank you. I didn't know if the block automaticly became unblocked at the time. Thank you for clearing it up friend :) Kitler005 19:02, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks[edit]

Thankyou, I will use them wisely. -- JiMoThYTALK 14:53, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Username graphic[edit]

[3]
I didn't think you'd mind. -- Steel 21:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikibreak[edit]

Lucky git :P Seriously, have a cool time, bud. The JPStalk to me 09:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Enjoy whatever country the rooster represents. Syrthiss 11:28, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I have a colleague doing just that atm. Drowning himself as it were in triples and doubles and white ales. Syrthiss 18:54, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again Redvers[edit]

You answered another one of my questions. I've really got the hang of Wikipedia and some day I want to be an administrator just like you.Masier 15:03, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

spammers[edit]

Hello Redvers,

Thank you for the warning about spammers, I changed my user name immediately but I have been receiving several begging e-mails a week. The only place where my e-mail address appears is in the history page of 'The Salem Witch Trials.' Please could it be possible to delete this from the record?. Stupid of me I know, but I am relatively new to computing. Natalieduerinckx 16:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC) Thank you[reply]

Have a...[edit]

nice holiday, should help relieve the stress of everyday life on wikipedia! I hope to see some holiday snaps when you get back. -- JiMoThYTALK 17:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Hello Redvers, Thank you Dr.khan 06:35, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you take a look at this unblock request. I don't really know the situation there.--Konstable 11:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Arbitration re: Jessica Lunsford[edit]

Unsure if Im supposed to notify you or if the arbitrators are but I listed you as a party of interest in Request for Arbitration: Jessica Lunsford. Cumberbund 07:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]