User talk:Philsp

Welcome![edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia, Philsp! Thank you for your contributions. I am ThatPeskyCommoner and have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time, so if you have any questions feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. You might want to consider being "adopted" by an experienced user who would show you how wikipedia works through a program called adopt-a-user. You can also check out Wikipedia:Questions or type {{helpme}} at the bottom of this page. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Pesky (talk …stalk!) 15:31, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some tips to help you out![edit]

Hi Philsp, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)

First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.

Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:Philsp/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.

For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).

Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between <ref></ref> tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps. Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type {{reflist}} on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.

Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you.

One last thing to keep as a motto: "It's better to write one good, well-referenced, nicely-presented article than it is to create fifty unreferenced one-line stubs!" Pesky (talk …stalk!) 15:31, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How references work[edit]

Simple references[edit]

These require two parts;

a)

Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>

b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";

== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Philsp/reftest and try it out.

Named references[edit]

Chzz was born in 1837. <ref name=MyBook>
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> 

Chzz lives in Footown.<ref name=MyBook/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates[edit]

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Something to make your life easier![edit]

Hi there Philsp! I've just come across one of your articles, and noticed that you might appreciate some help with references.

You might want to consider using this tool - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or or Special:MyPage/vector.js, then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. Happy editing! Pesky (talk …stalk!) 15:31, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel Youd[edit]

I get that his actual birth name was Sam Youd. you made the initial changes without citing any sources, including obituaries or the SF encyclopedia, where i finally found a source for it. i have added such to the article, but i think to switch his name over entirely to sam youd, which is not well known outside of his circle of friends, would require some discussion on the talk page of the the article. I wont revert any of your changes (i dislike edit warring intensely), but I would ask that more inline sources be added, and a discussion be started. I do want to note that you have edited here under this user name a total of 40 edits. While i really want to welcome you, you might want to honor some of the other editors experience here as well (I have done a bit more, though i have never held a professional editing position). you seem to have an interest in the minutiae of the SF world, which i completely respect as necessary here. And, if consensus at some point is to change the article name back, or to rewrite using Sam extensively, i will defer of course. Also note, internationally, his WP articles are all Samuel or John (not that thats an authoritative answer, of course).User:Mercurywoodrose 76.232.10.255 (talk) 07:30, 15 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You make valid points. When i first made corrections to your corrections, i didnt have any sources for your changes. i then found the one source (sf encyc) for his kept birth name. I agree that we need to document a person's actual name. There is however some debate at many other articles on what the article should be called when there are multiple names involved. In his case, he is best known by most casual readers as John Christopher, to bibliophiles as Samuel Youd with lots of pseudonyms, to people in the SF fraternity as Sam, etc: it will require some consensus building (and i wont even try to push any pov at this point, just follow it a bit). Please accept my apology for the quickness in my editing. even with your not providing an initial source, i was still reverting to info that was not fully sourced itself. I will, again, not revert any changes you make, and will bring up any of my concerns on the talk page. PS this all comes about from my love of his work when i was a youth, and my efforts to improve the article a few months ago (and the creation of the template for his works as JC). so, i am guilty of WP:OWN, which i can see is easy to slip into if one is passionate about the subject. PPS my condolences to his family.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:40, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File permission problem with File:Recent photo of Richard A. Lupoff.jpg[edit]

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File permission problem with File:Recent photo of Richard A. Lupoff.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading File:Recent photo of Richard A. Lupoff.jpg. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

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Frances Deegan/Frances Yerxa/Frances Hamling[edit]

Got your email. I started that article a few years ago, and I don't remember all the details, only that the Deegan pseudonym was complicated. I'll edit the article to reflect that better. Thanks for reaching out. Penny Richards (talk) 14:17, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]