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Hi. You have deleted the local copy, because it was available on Commons. For information, the Commons copy has been deleted, for the third time, for lacking proper permission from the copyright holder. You may or may not want to restore it on en.WP on a fair use basis (I'm not 100% aware of the local freeness thresholds and policies). --Eusebius (talk) 09:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)


Orphaned images

Thank you for your attention to these image files. I am currently drafting a page, (awaiting suggestions from other editors) that is soon to be published but perhaps not within 7 days. What is the procedure for allowing images to stay around for a draft page? File:Eldiario_de_yaracuay_front_Nov_5_2008.jpg, File:Liberation_front_Nov_6_2008.jpg, File:Rzeczpospolita_cover_Nov._5_2008.jpg, File:Sidney_Morning_Herald_front_Nov_6_2008_jpg.jpg Thank you --Panda609 16:47, 14 February 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amandaroyal (talkcontribs)

Thank you very much for helping with these images. I am new to wikipedia and uploaded the files as part of a heated AfD discussion regarding Lesser of Two. Is there a way to merge these images into a single link and then use them as a reference. They are separate pages from an article I referenced but couldn't find online. Any technical help or suggestions would be much appreciated. The files in question are: File:MRR.LoT.1.jpg, File:MRR.LoT.2.jpg, File:MRR.LoT.3.jpg, File:MRR.LoT.SceneR.jpg. javascript:insertTags('noodle 18:30, 14 February 2010 (UTC)',,) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noodlesteve (talkcontribs)

Images

Hi,

I note that you have deleted virtually all of the images which i have uploaded recently. Each satisfied Wikipedia's requirements and were legitimately used. Despite this you have deleted them without any satisfactory explanation and without notifying me. This is clearly poor administration. I am not a vandal. I uploaded images which improved the articles that i edited, devoting much time in the process. I suggest that you improve your practices in the future. I myself will no longer contribute as it is a clearly a waste of time when people like yourself delete legitimate contributions without satisfactory explanation. Gingerdave (talk) 8:57, 18 February 2010 (GMT)

Please read the non-free content policy, the images you uploaded were not "legitimate use." As for your argument that you can't find free images, they can be created in the case of living people, especially people of some degree of celebrity. Melesse (talk) 09:28, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
I have read non-free content policy and consider that the images which i uploaded met the ten requirements specified. If you demur, please explain your reasoning.Gingerdave (talk) 13:11, 18 February 2010 (GMT)
I have received an explanation with regards to why one cannot upload non free images of living people from Rettetast (talk). However the question still remains as to what reason you had to delete the images i uploaded for deceased footballers such as Eric Brook, Bobby Johnstone, Max Woosnam, Fred Tilson, etc. I await your explanation. Gingerdave (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2010 (GMT)
Well then, please read it again, because you must have missed requirement #10 (various source information). You simply stated that you could not find a free image. Melesse (talk) 07:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Image Sir Andrew Balfour

Melesse, regarding the deletion of the image Sir Andrew Balfour, I can understand the image being contested, but I do not believe I was notified over 48 hours ago, or at all. Therefore I was unable to contest or correct the validation of the image. Am I looking in the wrong place for the deletion warning? Thanks FruitMonkey (talk) 08:34, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

It was automatically added to the image's description page (presumably by some script in the upload form). Melesse (talk) 11:15, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
I thought that was a standard template to inform Administrators of a new Non-free image so they can make a judgement. Which section of the invalid fair use rationale did it fall down on? FruitMonkey (talk) 12:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
A very quick search of the site you got the image from brings up a photo of him from 1923, which is old enough to be public domain. Fair use licensed pictures are not allowed when there are freely licensed equivalents. Melesse (talk) 07:02, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Image ChancellorFloellaBenjamin.jpg

Melesse, as per the note I left on the image description, I forwarded the permission email to the appropriate Wikimedia email address _a week ahead of the deadline_. You can see this. If this was not acceptable (to follow WP directions), then where is the correct information posted?? Ian Cairns (talk) 22:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

"Please note that explicit permissions have been received and forwarded to the relevant wikimedia email address. Ian Cairns (talk) 00:02, 13 February 2010 (UTC)"
The correct procedure is to have the copyright holder email the OTRS personally, as forwarded emails can be forged rather easily. Melesse (talk) 06:48, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

I am grateful to User:Shell Kinney for reinstating the image that you deleted. The explicit permissions were correct, as per the documentation - it seems that Wikimedia takes time. Ian Cairns (talk) 00:07, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of File:Horse_from_postage_stamp.png

I believe your deletion of the above image was in error. You wrote "Speedy deleted per CSD F8, was a file available as a bit-for-bit identical copy on the Wikimedia Commons. using TW". However, it is not a bit for bit copy. right Here is the original

The file you deleted derived from this but was cropped and modified (all text erased). Also, per CSD F8 "provided the following conditions are met:

  • The Commons version is in the same file format and is of the same or higher quality/resolution."

The file you removed was a png format while the Commons version is jpg.

Please put it back. Thanks. JPatterson (talk) 23:46, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

My mistake, restored. Melesse (talk) 06:55, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi Melesse. Just a friendly reminder to take a little more care when tagging files with the {{di-replaceable fair use}} tag. I declined some nearly 30 some nominations by you today (e.g. File:WaynePayne.jpg), regarding photos of TV/film characters that are not replaceable. As a general rule of thumb, images/screencaps of images of characters in the media are not replaceable. As a matter of fact, the majority of these files was missing fair use rationale - the files would have been more appropriately tagged with {{subst:nrd}}. -FASTILY (TALK) 00:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it occurred to me you wouldn't do this unless you had a very good reason for it. If there is some unique circumstance regarding these images, please do let me know. -FASTILY (TALK) 00:41, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

A note about

the orphan File:No_matter_what_shape.jpg. It is/was part of a discussion that I'm having with another editor. Posting that image (a scan from a book page) was a way of documenting the source of a particular bit of information. The editor involved has seen it, my point was made. It is however a technique that I use every now and then and I am wondering what is the best way, copyright wise to do this? Thanks, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:34, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

The best way would be to make a text citation of the book. Then people who want proof can locate the book themselves. Melesse (talk) 10:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

On a list with 100 items that gets pretty cumbersome. I wanted him to see the source himself. Finding particular books is not always possible for other folks and I had it in hand. Carptrash (talk) 23:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)


Melesse PLEASE EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE AS IM WIKI NOVICE CANT SEE HOW TO MESSAGE BACK RE A CHANGE YOUVE MADE TO John Reames article, i own the photo in question as it is my father who commissioned the photo in his capacity of owner of lincoln city football club at the time and the photos were handed over directly by the club, please reinstate the photo and article as i left it PLEASE. big thanks and sorry..didnt know where to message —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomreames (talkcontribs) 19:00, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

File:Russian lemon wikipedia.JPG

Hi there Melesse, just letting you know I've removed the fairuse orphan tag you added to File:Russian lemon wikipedia.JPG because the entire image is licensed under the Creative Commons. As it does not include anything not available under a free license fair-use need not apply, so the image may be used simply for a user page. Let me know if this doesn't checkout, or if you disagree on any points. (See also: http://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wiki.500.000.png&filetimestamp=20100225095849)
Kindest regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 20:42, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Cascade_Server_Logo_Color.png)

Thanks for uploading File:Cascade_Server_Logo_Color.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Melesse (talk) 05:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Deleted File:Primo Levi.gif

I included the source information on the Talk page of the image.. It was from the Italian wikipedia article on Primo Levi. http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primo_Levi. It qualifies as Fair Use. 7mike5000 (talk) 16:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Nicola Panaro.jpg

You deleted this image that was still under discussion. It was properly tagged with hang on tag and a proper justification is given for the claim of irreplaceability. It should have been moved to WP:IfD. You claim you notified the uploader but you did not. Please restore the image in order for a proper discussion. - DonCalo (talk) 06:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

No. The discussion appears to have ended two days ago, and I agree with Hammersoft, who left a notification on your talk page. Melesse (talk) 09:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

The discussion was not ended two days ago, it was supposed to go to WP:FfD. Please restore the image. - DonCalo (talk) 02:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I will not. The file was a candidate for speedy deletion on criteria F7, therefore no discussion is actually necessary. Melesse (talk) 02:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

"File:Joe Louis Clark - Time.jpg"

(Deletion log); 03:33 . . Melesse (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Joe Louis Clark - Time.jpg" (Speedy deleted per CSD F7, was a file with an invalid fair use rationale and the uploader was notified more than 48 hours ago. using TW)

Wikipedia:CSD#F7 states: Invalid fair-use claims tagged with {{subst:dfu}} may be deleted seven days after they are tagged, if a full and valid fair-use use rationale is not added.

And since I had immediately added a "Di-replaceable fair use disputed" tag with explanation, shouldn't that grant me 7 days? And possibly some discussion? - TheMightyQuill (talk) 17:48, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello? Am I wrong here? Could you please respond? Thank you. - TheMightyQuill (talk) 21:33, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Israel Kamakawiwo'ole has a broken image link in the infobox. Could you tell me why the image was deleted? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 12:27, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

This seems to be an irreplaceable image of a deceased person. Your thoughts? — BQZip01 — talk 20:46, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Here we go again

That file you have deleted is a picture i have taken myself. I referenced that in the summary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smiless--xo (talkcontribs) 16:51, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I gotta say, I'm not quite sure why these images were deleted. — BQZip01 — talk 20:51, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

File:Neuhold-Gunter.jpg

Sorry, new to this so hoped you could explain. The image is a publicity shot distributed by the Neuhold. I quickly read the fair usage policy and that this was ok. Could you explain what I did wrong please? I know it must be me so if you can explain I can rectify. Thank you Tucker talk 02:24, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

You need to include a rationale explaining why you think it should be allowed. And you need to give it the correct license, if it's a promotional photo don't tag it as a stamp. Melesse (talk) 02:26, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I see. Sorry, I will correct and thank you for explaining Tucker talk 02:28, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again, I have now re-uploaded with the correct tags, I think!. If you get the time and check it would be appreciated. Same name used Thanks Tucker talk 02:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Request file restoration. There was nothing that {{PD-textlogo}} didn't cover. What was the problem? — BQZip01 — talk 06:51, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Moreover, I created the image. — BQZip01 — talk 06:53, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
I would appreciate a response. — BQZip01 — talk 19:31, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
The file had no indication of source. If you created it yourself, you should have made an indication of that. {{PD-textlogo}} was not the license, it was {{PD-self}}, which is very very commonly used incorrectly/abused. Melesse (talk) 01:59, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Potato, puh-tah-to: either one would be correct as they both provide appropriate rationales that the image is indeed PD. Would you be so kind as to restore it so I can fix the license? — BQZip01 — talk 23:22, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
I have no obligation to restore it, as it was properly deleted as having no proper license stated. I suggest you re-upload it yourself and get all the licensing and source citations right from the start. Melesse (talk) 02:34, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
{{PD-self}} is a valid tag. As such, the image was properly uploaded and cited. Just because "very very commonly used incorrectly/abused" doesn't mean it is always wrong. Furthermore, I was given no notice on this image being up for deletion or any problems it faced. — BQZip01 — talk 08:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Anything to not have to see your name on my talk page again. I'm going to join Hammersoft and ask you not to add your commentary to my talk page anymore, and I'd thank you to not pretend you don't know why that is. Melesse (talk) 10:05, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
I truly have no idea why. You deleted an image of mine and I pressed to see you did so. For your information, I did add creation information to the page, but for some reason, it was not saved into the image description page ([1]); I'm thinking there may be a bug in the upload process. As you have asked me (for whatever reason) not to post on your page anymore, this will be my last post for anything other than required posts (i.e. notifications). — BQZip01 — talk 15:01, 9 March 2010 (UTC)