User talk:Loganberry/Archive4

Clifton College and the Zoo

The College has come back to me and said that they didn't used to own the Zoo site - have updated the page to reflect this incorrect College folk-lore! Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! ^(Whisper...) 14:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Aha; a mystery solved! Glad to be of some, albeit peripheral, use on the article. =:)

Please ban Dr. Righteous

Dr. Righteous when you started editing the fursecution vandal stopped. Dr. Righteous created an account purely to make edits on this article that others disageed with. I believe Dr. Righteous is the fursecution vandal.

Also he does 3RR violations [1] [2] [3] [4] DyslexicEditor 13:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

I can't ban anyone I'm afraid; you need to contact an administrator. Loganberry (Talk) 00:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Hill Climb

--b1ackcr0w 14:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for that :)

The Predator is somewhat in limbo at the moment. Over the Winter of 2005/6, there were lots of snippets of information surrounding Graeme and the car. Most of them suggested that the Engine had suffered a serious problem on the Dyno after a rebuild. There also appears to have been a deterioration in the relationship between him and Pride Engines. The facts of the matter are difficult to distil from the rumour borne of personal motivations, and therefore not a good subject for entering on the Wiki.

The last I heard, The Engine had been taken to Judd Engineering for remedial work. As a purely personal point of view, I feel that it's becoming evident that the F1 V10 may have been a mistake. It's design was so specific to it's original purpose, that there were was no latitude for engineering it for a different application. I really, really hope I'm talking nonesense here, because not only was it one of the most wonderful noises ever heard, Graeme is also a friend and a competitor I respect hugely.

BC

Thank you; most enlightening! I have to agree with you about the noise, even if I've only got to hear the thing running properly once or twice. I'd love to see the Predator back on the hills, and fully competitive, but I do have to wonder. After all, as you say F1 engines are such specialist things - I don't think it's only because of Graham Hickman's dreadful accident (which I had the misfortune to see at close range; how much worse it must have been for those close to him) that as far as I know we haven't seen modern-ish F1 cars competing since. Loganberry (Talk) 18:40, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Michael Passey

Not a lot to add to that stub, is there? ;) You appear to have used the career data of one Edward Bunting, however... Sam Vimes | Address me 22:26, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Aha; good spot! I've fixed it now; thanks. Loganberry (Talk) 00:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Max Woosnam

A splendid book. However I too looked up his cricket career and it is obvious he did not earn a cricket blue although he did represent Cambridge university.

The book also says that he played little Golf after leaving Winchester until he visited America with the Davis Cup Team. Perhaps verification is required as to whether he actually achieved a Golf Blue.

Thanking you in anticipation of a response.

James Ross [email removed]

Hello. I can't speak for the other four sports, but you're quite right that Woosnam didn't get a blue for cricket: his two matches for Cambridge were both against counties. I've changed the wording of the article, subject to any further information. Loganberry (Talk) 13:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Cricket articles

Great cricket articles. Very valuable never knew Nasser had a brother! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Loganberry (Talk) 15:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Typo on Isle Of Man cricket team

Thanks for correcting my rather silly typo on the Isle of Man cricket team page. I'm devloping a rather annoying habit of dropping the h from eighth, see here for another example! Anyway, you might want to check the other stubs on affiliate teams I've created/updated recently and see if I've made any typos on those too! I'm hoping to have completed the set of all ICC members before the end of the month, and will then move onto the Women's national teams, a handful of prospective ICC members, as well as pages on the defunct West African and East and Central African teams. Should make us pretty comprehensive on national teams!Andrew nixon 18:11, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Varsity/University Match

Thanks for your comments. I take your points. I hope to addrss them by (1) calling the page The University Match (cricket), in the hope that including the definite article will reduce the scope for confusion and (2) providing a redirect from Varsity Match (cricket) JH 16:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again. I've now set up redirects from The Varsity Match (cricket) and Oxford v Cambridge (cricket). I've sorted out some of the most obvious red links. I doubt whether any of the remainder yet have Wiki entries, but I could be wrong. JH 17:02, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Wrong Reid.

You added this to the wrong Reid. It should be John Reid (cricketer). Mentioning Mohsin Khan's feat is stretching the definition a bit, as only one wicket fell in the innings. Tintin (talk) 05:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Splendid-ness

Splendid indeed. I much admire what you are doing and look forward to more of it. I'm so bogged down in other (real-world) work that I haven't had time for months to pursue my own goal of eradicating the substubs in the test-bios, and I don't think I'll be surfacing for some time to come. And with 1300 of them still to go I suspect you'll reach the end on Worcestershire cricketers well before I'm done. Perhaps you could move on to my county, Somerset, next.

Anyway, what heartened me particularly about your contributions is that you have covered Alfred Tasker. My first-ever cricket book was the 1957 Cricket Annual (not Playfair then), and in the Worcestershire averages for the previous season he was called, simply, "Tasker", with no first-name or even initial. Many years later I bought the relevant Wisden and found he was A. Tasker, and then the ACS people unearthed him further in the mid 1980s. But I still think Tasker is the benchmark for cricketing notability, and I'm really impressed that he's already covered in Wikipedia, thanks to you. Johnlp 22:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Hick redraft

Great work, Loganberry!

Really enjoyed the redraft, thought the detail and research employed was just right and felt it was perfectly objective. I also see that a lot of the points I raised have been mentioned and I appreciate that.

I think the fact that the quotes you've used are a who's who of cricketing legends completely justifies the length of the page.

I don't feel its biased in Hick's favour; his good period in test cricket is given solid detail, as are his poorer periods. You've noted that his 83 v SA in 1992 was marred by controversy, and that his innings vs Aus in 1998-99 were the bright points of a patchy overall performance.

This may sound funny but I'm actually more of a Graeme Hick fan than an actual cricket follower (I don't hail from big cricketing country), almost to the point of obsessive. I've read a lot of writings about Hick, but your redraft is easily the fairest, best researched, most objective, and most interesting account of his career.

Cheers!

Dar2020 19:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Image

I contacted the website where the image was uploaded for, and they sent in an e-mail to permissions AT wikimedia releasing all rights. So it's all good. -- Jeff3000 02:38, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

THe problem is that there are tons of the See-before-you-die images that the user uploaded, and it's a major headache to go through them all, cropping the ad, and then pasting the fact that an e-mail has been sent to permissions. -- Jeff3000 02:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Hick question

I'm splitting hairs here but I noticed that you referred to Hick's ODI form in the summer of 2000 as "very poor". Given that I recall he played a useful supporting innings to Stewart in the final of the Triangular tournament against Zimbabwe, and also made an exhibionist 20-odd not out with Flintoff in another match, I'd be more inclined to refer to his form as either indifferent, patchy or disappointing rather than "very poor"; or maybe you could say it was very poor by Hick's ODI standards. For me, it all harks back to the double standards problem Hick suffered with: would it be "very poor" for any other England batsman to average 25 in an ODI series? Probably not. By all means, throw the book at him for the 12.40 v SA earlier that year, but - just as its important to make sure there is very robust evidence for positive remarks - I think we should make sure of this conversely too.

Keep up the good work!

Dar2020 21:43, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Hick again

I recall you saying that the 141 v SA was your favourite Hick innings; have you considered mentioning that that innings took him to his peak position of No. 7 in the ICC test rankings - I feel this symbolises the argument that the 141 was the peak of Hick's Test career. I posted a link earlier on the article discussion page.

Also, below is a link to Justin Langer's website where Graeme Hick is stated as one of his cricketing heroes in the biography section. You may wish to incorporate this into the aftermath bit at the end of the article. Hick's in pretty impressive company.

http://www.justinlanger.net/quickfacts.php

Dar2020 22:09, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I meant what I said in the edit summary: the article is well sourced, excellently laid out and thorough. I trust you will be putting it forward as a featured article at some time, perhaps when there's a picture? I'm going to try to get to a Worcestershire match next year to try to get a photo of him. And my commendations to Dar2020 too; I can well see s/he has had an integral part in the writing of the article! --RobertG ♬ talk 09:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing RobertG. Loganberry's also been kind enough to acknowledge my contribution. Given that Loganberry did all the laborious work of incorporating my rants into a controlled, impartial biography, I'm happy for the bulk of the credit to go here. I think the article serves as a great template to those wishing to expand upon the biographies of public figures whose careers they are interested in. The tone of the article is also exemplary, and will mean, I'm sure, that both fans and critics of Hick will have no difficulty it accepting its content and submissions. The referencing and statistical data is also first-class.Dar2020 17:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Duke of Norfolk's XI

Excellent work. --Dweller 16:06, 11 October 2006 (UTC)