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Online Ambassador application

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GA reviews

Hi Legolas! Is it okay if I ask someone if he/she could review my article? (not swap, lol) Novice7 | Talk 05:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Not exactly a fan of this untill and unless you are being absolutely unbiased and asking someone off the radar from music articles. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:47, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm not doing it, just asking to know if it's right or wrong. Thank you very much. Novice7 | Talk 05:50, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Wow. Did I sound rude? Did not mean to, was just typing a response to the above section. As I said, if you ask of my personal opinion, I'm not a fan of it. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I don't feel that you're rude at all :) And, I'm not a fan of it too. I swapped it before, as I was not aware of its consequences. And, by response, you mean Jivesh? Novice7 | Talk 05:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

(→) Sorry, but I didn't get you. Anyway, thanks again for everything :) Novice7 | Talk 06:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I didn't mean to disturb you, but me too!!! I love the song.. The sample song has been on my head for like many years, and now this!! OMG! Novice7 | Talk 08:22, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Lol kiddo, I was just joking... ya I absolutely lov lov lov the track.... love that Lopez is back. She was such a hottie in our younger days. You were too small to remember i guess. It reminds me of my childhood days, when cassette players were still in existence. He he. OK I'll stop blabbering. — Legolas (talk2me) 08:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Yep.. I was like 6 or 7 when she came out (music career). Anyway, do you think this website can be used to expand an article (I'm not going for a GA)? Novice7 | Talk 09:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Doesnot seem like. I'm not saying this because its a blog, but because its a blog of a non-reliable website itself which makes me question it. ON THE FLOORRRRRRR!! — Legolas (talk2me) 12:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks. I've been searching everywhere about this Japanese album, to expand but in vain :( Oh well, lol, is the song available for download yet? I don't see it on OVI store. iTunes doesn't sell in India too :( Novice7 | Talk 12:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
I got it from downloads.nl — Legolas (talk2me) 12:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

(→) Thank you!!!! The version I listened to had altered pitch. Thank you again!! Novice7 | Talk 12:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Reply:This

Replied at my talk. Novice7 | Talk 16:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Also replied there :) Novice7 | Talk 17:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi! Sheet music for Hold it Against Me has been published Legolas. Can you add that please? Novice7 | Talk 05:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey its done. Wow that was super-fast for Kobalt. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, very fast, and thank you. But, the sheet music for Pretty Girl Rock has not been published yet :( Novice7 | Talk 06:04, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Ughhh that NFCC failing image... hurts me, physically hurts me I tell ya! — Legolas (talk2me) 06:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
I had a feeling it would fail. Any suggestions how to create a good screenshot? The video pays tribute to like 6 or 7 artists. Novice7 | Talk 06:19, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Select the most important artist among them, and then put a screenshot of that tribute. Why the hell is Hilson suddenly tributing artists in that video? I have to check it out. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:21, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Should not be better use free images of the tributed artists? Remember WP:NFCC#1 Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 06:25, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

(→) Okay then, who all do you guys suggest from these? Novice7 | Talk 06:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Extremely good suggestion Tbhotch. Novice, pay attention to what he said. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:29, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, thank you Tbhotch and Legolas. But, I cannot use many images. Just one or two, right? Novice7 | Talk 06:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
If its free, you can use as many, just combine them to a single image, like something done for American Beauty in the casting section. You hve an account in commons I hope? — Legolas (talk2me) 06:37, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I do. Then I can make a collage and use it. Thank you. Novice7 | Talk 06:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Just remember in use free images, and attribute the authors of CC-SA-BY/ CC-BY images, something like this. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 06:51, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
He he.. So you know anyone who can help me make one? I'm not good in these. I tried making, but it fails. :"> Novice7 | Talk 06:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

You can use Photoshop or maybe Microsoft Paint, if it's impossible for you, choose the images and ask any user who has made collages, an example Sceptre (talk · contribs) with File:London collage.jpg. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 07:02, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I asked the user. Thank you. Novice7 | Talk 07:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Lol, Tbhotch rocks!! — Legolas (talk2me) 07:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
I echo your words =D Novice7 | Talk 07:27, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks again, I don't know what happened last time I replied, I'm confused. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 07:32, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Huh? What happened? Btw, the octagram in your contribution is pretty cool. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:39, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Text get mad, a lot of non sense, I don't know I cannot explain it, like an epic fail of a computer program, and which octagram? Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 07:42, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
The octagram in your signature, for the contributions. You realize that it is an octagram don't you? Lol. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Oh I get it I get it, I didn't undertand what you said, yeah its an octagram and means "God" in arabian, I guess. Well since I was practically (technically being realist) banned at ANI from use the trademark symbol and copyright symbol, as well as registered trademark symbol and sound recording copyright symbol, I had to search new options, and well I liked those symbols. I only hope that no one get mad of those symbols as well. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 07:49, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry they won't I guess. But then again, Arabs get mad very frequently over small issues. So God help you if any Arab users finds you are using it. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:43, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) I thought your previous signature was creative! I can't believe they prevented you from using it, just because of the trademark and copyright symbols. I still don't understand their conversation and how they based it. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 14:37, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Searching ۩ this means God, but not "God" itself, God making an action, either way, I do not think they would find it offensive, I hope. And Cprice, according to some users, not all, the use of "legal symbols" may confuse editors. I requested them to make it a rule as simple as I am not the only user in use them, and I won't be the only. This was more personal you know. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 19:21, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Ya I understand Axel. Anyways that OOT ANI was really lame. A simple discussion would have sufficed. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:39, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, but Ken insisted it was a "community problem", shameful. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 05:52, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Who is Ken btw? Some bigshot I'm sure? — Legolas (talk2me) 08:03, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Beyond My Ken (talk · contribs) (Assuming that his name is maybe Ken). Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 08:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Anyways, forget all that bygones, what are the things you are working on? How's "Halo" coming along? — Legolas (talk2me) 08:09, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
At this moment I am fighting against a son of a bitch who has attacked all TFAs since January 9, and almost all the blue links of the main page since January 16 with proxies, so as you can see I'm a little busy for work in articles. But yes, I'm maintaining "Halo" and I have "Ironic" on the queue of possibles GAs. Why the question? Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 08:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Just asking because you do seem like extremely busy. And that loser is still going round the TFA's?? My god. He was there during MJ's appearance and back again. A range block is surely needed. Btw, I'm in looooveeee with j.Lo's new song! — Legolas (talk2me) 08:18, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

No, I'm not busy, at all. Oh also, I'm trying to clean the plot of this crappy movie, which I liked it BTW (yes, I'm crazy if you wonder). But yes, this guy doesn't give up with this, and won't do it, even three new filters were created against him, and they work moreless; and since Grawp is active, again, Wikipedia is tumbling down thanks to its rules. Anyway, I have not heard her song, I'm not Lopez fan, you know, but I'll hear it later. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 08:30, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

The song is an absolute dance fad, for you and ...ahem... that special one. Lol, and btw, I also loved disaster movie "Hello lovers!!". If you need any help, just holla! — Legolas (talk2me) 08:34, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh wow, that was really unexpected, "and so I thought: Could a simple Indian user like you help me to review my finished plot? I wonder" But I need to finish it and I'll ask you for help, since I have no idea of what is (ir)relevant in a film plot, and since you have experience in that field, this is a bendition. For now I want to clean it since its current plot has alot of irrelevant and fake stuff and the most important things are missed, I'd blame its padlock. OK, time to bed, thank you, have a nice day. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 08:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Lol, very funny eh? Well good night and Sweet Dreams, and no, not Knowles' dreams, you can dream dream of him. He he. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
lol, NO, Legolas NO! XD. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 21:07, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Nirvana FAR

Many edits were made to Nirvana (band) since your "Delist" comment at the FAR. Can you take a look at the article now, so as revise your opinion (or request more changes)? Thanks. igordebraga ≠ 00:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Does everybody RELove J.Lo now?

I guess "On the Floor" is destined to be a #1! It's incredible how she made this comeback after 2 albums full of filler tracks and OK singles (with the exception of Get Right and Hold It Don't Drop It). Her vocals are great on this- much stronger than on any track of REbirth or Brave. This is sure to blow up in the UK if not also the US. Maybe there is hope for Love? --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 15:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Ya, US charts are extremely temperamental and US radio DJs manipulate stuff a lot. Plus, US radio is extremely ageist, hence as much as I love OTF, I dont know how much love it will get. If her label promotes it properly, its sure to smash in the US. This weekend I was DJing at my friend's party, and I mixed this one up in the middle. Everyone was so crazy! — Legolas (talk2me) 16:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Her promotion has always been a bit off, so that's probably why her last two albums failed and why This Is Me... Then didn't do as much as it could have. Anyway, you were a DJ?! That's awesome! --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 16:13, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, Brave was so disappointing. I think JLo can be back in full form and coupled with the exposure she's getting from American Idol, she can really pull it off. And yes my deaer, I was DJing...a little passion of mine. Everybody was too drunk to complain though. — Legolas (talk2me) 16:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
I don't care much for Brave; it just has too much filler. The singles, Brave, and "Mile in These Shoes" were all I cared about. Still need to buy REbirth, though. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 16:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
I thinbk both of them had enough of fillers that I didn't care to buy any of them. But Love? seems promising. — Legolas (talk2me) 16:22, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

(→) IMO, On the 6, J.Lo and This is Me... are the best. I like Como Ama Una Mujer, but don't like Brave that much. Rebirth is just okay. In my place, Brave has been on the shelves of music store for like one year, lol. But, others come and go fast. And Legolas, so I guess you mixed Madonna, Gaga and J.Lo together? Too bad that most things we Indians do never impact the charts of US. I wish we had a chart of our own. Novice7 | Talk 16:27, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Not exactly, lol, I dont listen to Gaga and Madonna only. I actually mixed some European tribal jungle beats with some rave music. Slipped "On the Floor" in between and also mixed some Nicki Minaj, just to change the mood. Billboard once proposed for a chart in India, but Radio FM 93.9 did not agree t ochange their formnat to cater to BDS. — Legolas (talk2me) 16:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Wow. Great. And, about Billboard, why the heck did the Radio do that? We'd have been so proud if we had one. Oh well, seems we have to stick to US Billboard :( Novice7 | Talk 16:37, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
No idea. They are idiots, simple as that. I got to know of this from a cousin of mine who works for Nielsen BDS. Anyways, wassup with ya? — Legolas (talk2me) 16:39, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Wow again. Oh, nothing. Just got excited when started working on Whitney's debut album :D Do you think a section for music videos is needed for the article? The books that I've got mention things about the music video. Might as well go to sleep now. Got class tomorrow. Good night :) Novice7 | Talk 16:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Good night kiddo. Do well in school/college tomorrow. And as for Whitney, I have to check and then respond. — Legolas (talk2me) 16:44, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. The present article has nothing on the background or production. I'll have to add that, and then move on its singles. If you could let me know how to fix it, I'd be glad. Bye again..Novice7 | Talk 16:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Lol everyone really going crazy over this new J.Lo song. Now the beat is hard, but I'm missin' Jenny from the Block? Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 01:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I completely agree! That is my favorite J.Lo song, and the song that introduced me to her. "Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got/I'm still, I'm still Jenny from the Block" I sing that all the time at school and my friends just don't get it. I think she reached her peak with that song, sadly. :( --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 01:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I just love all of her urban work, and I'm fine with "On the Floor" but she needs to pull out an R&B single with a hot rap feature too. Shoot, since she's going with the trend of dance-pop, she might as well go ahead and get the trend of Nicki Minaj assisting her next single.Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 03:09, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I Like! Bring on the Onika! Adabow (talk · contribs) 03:53, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
All good discussion, but old acts donot fare well with R&B couplet as you know. Carey's "Up Out My Face" is a recent example. I think J.Lo is definitely doing the right thing. Eurodance is the sound of the moment, she's caching on it and adding some Rap credentials with the help of Pitbull. This is a killer combo. — Legolas (talk2me) 04:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeahhh true true true. Too bad UOMF flopped, it was pretty good. I believe it would have done better if it was released a little after Minaj's meteoric to music royalty, since the Carey collabo was essentially her first mainstream appearance. Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 12:10, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
And Minaj's part kinda sucked there. Not that Minaj was bad, it was the song's composition itself, coupled with that *dead* video. I couldn't stop laughing at all the photoshop done on Carey. Back to "OTF". Woww at the music video trailer that just emerged on MTV! She's going the diva way it seems. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:17, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Whitney

Thank you. I've not started fixing the article completely. It is her debut album. I read that even album arts should have reason to stay. Is it? Oh, do you think that a Nippy (Whitney) WikiProject could be formed anytime, but not soon? Novice7 | Talk 10:06, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Look above, new sign eh? I do't think a Whitney project is needed anytime soon. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Shame on Me :"> Sorry, I forgot to sign.. Actually I proposed a project even before I knew you guys here. What do you think of the article? Isn't it a little too big right now? Novice7 | Talk 10:06, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
The article is the perfect example of WP:UNDUE and WP:FANCRUFT. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Lol, thank you. Now I got to know how to fix it. Also, Candyo made a collage, Adabow uploaded and added it to Pretty Girl Rock. Please check it out to see if it suffices. Novice7 | Talk 10:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh god, why is the non-free image still there? — Legolas (talk2me) 10:41, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I'll remove it right away. Hope the new image fits in. Novice7 | Talk 10:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Use upright and the default parameters. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:44, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

(→) I fixed it. Hope its okay now. Novice7 | Talk 11:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Ugh, that Harry Ward tag is irritating. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
E-mail him, and ask him to be more generous with his licensing. Adabow (talk · contribs) 11:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
He never replied. I think once Efe got back a reply that he is not interested in removing his name. Pretty rude guy.. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
The main article does not show his name. He could have put the name onto the image. Novice7 | Talk 11:43, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Guidance Barnstar
I hereby present you, Legolas2186, with this Guidance Barnstar. I do this because I read your talk page every day, and the patient and direct way in which you help people who come to you for opinions and guidance constantly amazes me. If every editor here had your attitude, this would be a much better place to spend an hour of free time. Thanks for your efforts to keep this place sane. Andy Walsh (talk) 05:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Lady GaGa Born This Way

I don't know how to source individual twitter statuses, but Edge Of Glory is confirmed here! http://twitter.com/#!/StephenGHill — Preceding unsigned comment added by 01lander (talk • contribs) 11:50, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Twitter is unreliable. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Favour

Thanks for reviewing "Sing Like Me"! Hey, could you look up the Bubbling Under Hot 100 info for Usher's "Here I Stand" (the song, not the album)? Much appreciated. Adabow (talk · contribs) 10:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

My subscription has expired. I have renewed it, just waiting for the mail with the login details to come. Can you remind me in two days? I have a bad habit of forgetting. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:02, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Arrived? :p Adabow (talk · contribs) 11:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
From there I can only see the chart run in Bubbling under as 14 --> 12 --> 7 --> 6. These are for issues from December 17, 2008 to January 7, 2009. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:06, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a bunch. Can you give me a ref code, please? Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:49, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Ref code? I gave you the date nos, now you can include the ISSN, and volume right? I did not ignore you, just that I hardly ever check old sections so missed this one. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:09, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that. OK, I'll try to hunt 'em down on Google Books. Unless there's an easier way? Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:14, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
If you have trouble finding the volumes, just holla! I will give it to you in evening. Im at office now, can't access billboard.biz from here. I have to go home and give it to you. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:19, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Tut tut. Skiving off at work are we? Lol. Yeah neither Dec 17, 08 nor Jan 7, 09 are on Google Books, so if its not too much trouble I would really appreciate you finding the volume numbers and whatever. Adabow (talk · contribs) 09:23, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Is skiving at work = Getting your ass busted? Then yes. I will get them in evening. Its 3:00 pm here now in India. — Legolas (talk2me) 09:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

[1] ← Thanks heaps! Now I just have to wait for the ridiculous backload at CAT:CSD to clear. *sigh* Adabow (talk · contribs) 22:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Forgive me please.

Legolas, won't you ever talk you me? I am sincerely sorry. Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Legolas, please. Jivesh models you on Wikipedia and he needs you to help him. He didn't mean what he said and he is sorry for it. Won't you please accept his apology? --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 15:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC) :Forgiven. Please dont do it again. — Legolas (talk2me) 16:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, infinitely. I do not have the right words. All i can say is a big thank you. But Legolas, i just to tell you one thing. I have never lied. Try to go on Beyonce articles and see who took them to GS. You will see the name of Efe. He is no longer active on Wikipedia. He also did all the FAs. Trust me, i did not lie. Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

OH MY GOD. Can you please stop cribbing? Who the hell cares that you are working alone on Beyonce's articles? I'm carrying the bloody Madonna wikiproject on my own shoulders only. Do you see me cribbing and blaming others? — Legolas (talk2me) 03:58, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Exactly, that was my point with Beyonce too. And this why i was wondering why you told me this : "You have no idea what the state of Beyonce articles would have been, if all these editors hadn't worked on it"? I do not want any recognition for my work. Whatever i do for Beyonce i do it with my heart because i really love her. Let's forget about all this now. I am very happy and grateful you have forgiven me. I will do my 100% beta not to upset you. Bye, have a nice evening. See you later if ever i have questions. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:30, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Legolas, i have already fixed "Irreplaceable", "Deja Vu" and "Ring The Alarm"? I would be very happy if you could have a look and tell me what you think? IO mean i have never done FAs. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:35, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Ring the Alarm needs a music video shot complying NFCC, there is quite a bit of critical commentary. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Help: Is it true that an artist's label cannot source her sales. Columbia records made a press release telling that when Beyonce sales are combined with those of Destiny's Child, it surpasses 130 million units. This is constantly being removed. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
We need third party reliable sources, not from the horse's mouth. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:54, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I think i understood. Ummm "from the horse's mouth". Lol. Jivesh • Talk2Me 11:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Is it okay now? Ring_the_Alarm#Background_2. Jivesh • Talk2Me 12:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
And the lead of "Irreplaceable" is a gross violation of WP:LEAD. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Please explain. Jivesh • Talk2Me 13:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Is it good now? Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I see you usually edit Video Phone. I found this and it has a lot of information. Very detailed. Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:04, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you Jivesh for the info. I'm just trying to sort and find out the reliability of the authors, although they do quote Carol Vernallis sometimes, one of my favourite author. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:10, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
You are welcome Legoals. By the way, i have a question. Are songs only with a very good chart performance taken to FA? What about if a song has not charted well, like mostly in the top 20 but has a lot of details about recording, composition, critical response, release, live performances, a critically acclaimed video? Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
My name is not Legoals. For FA what matters is brilliant prose, a complete NPOV representation, compliance with WP policies and covering all points, whatever is available. Hence it doesnot matter if a song was not successful commercially. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:14, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry fro having wrongly typed your name. I did not know that Legolas was really your name. Thank you for having explained it to me. So i consider, i can take "Sweet Dreams" and "Single Ladies" to FA. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Take if you want, but it will fail. And be prepared for the strong and hard reviews, something you are still incapable of. still. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:34, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
You mean both of them? Can you please explain why? Briefly. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Go to WP:FAC, there you will find the criteria for the FA candidates. Compare these articles with the criteria, and you will find out what I am saying. Coupled with it, if you remember long back I said that "too many cooks spoil the broth". That's what has happened to SL. The article is not even GA worthy. Anyways, I don't think you would really care whatever I say, because you are too busy to move out with articles, rather than delve patience to each one at a time. Result is in front of your eyes. I just had to add {{Lead too long}} tag to "Irreplaceable". Seriously, I am out of that Wikiproject, I should hardly care less. But its my job to monitor the music articles, that's why I have to. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:51, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay, i understood. I will continue to read on it. Thank you. Jivesh • Talk2Me 15:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Do you mean i rush with my GAs? Jivesh • Talk2Me 16:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Is mediafire.com reliable? Jivesh • Talk2Me 17:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

(→) No. Not at all. It's a file sharing website. Novice7 | Talk 17:12, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Legolas, could you please tell me whether EzineArticles is reliable? Jivesh • Talk2Me 18:00, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
No, and next time please raise a new section. I don't have time to sort through older ones. I am very busy now, dont excpect me to reply to any other querries. — Legolas (talk2me) 18:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Sleep or snoose?

Always snoose and still party on!. I'm obsessed with it. Thought I was gutted when you said "Some cleaning up, good start Cprice". unique boy stares at his name appearing 30× in the edit history o_O. LOL seriously kidding. It was joke. I love the song though. Its fierce! arg! I think she might finally have a good hit on her hands! (excuse the pun). Anyway how are you? I was wondering... is there any final recommendations before I nominated When Love Takes Over for FA? I've left it a while and spent a good amount of time copy-editing. I'm thinking it might be worth a punt now? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 02:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Ya know, I really am sorry for that edit summary, I noticed that you were editing also only when I checked the history. And yes yes yes, I absolutely adore the song. As you can see from above, while DJing at a friend's place, everyone lovvvved this song. As for WLTO, with the non-free image checking being so so strict now, I think you have to submit it without the images, including the single cover. I know it kinda sucks, but then again you won't find a rationale thats accepting for them. I'm madly searching something related to the cover art for "Bad Romance" and thats why holding to submit it for FAC. — Legolas (talk2me) 03:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Its ok I was pulling ya leg with the "On the Floor" thing. Fairplay with WLTO... wait hold on a second. You mean NO single cover? We're not even allowed single covers? And technically WLTO should be ok as its uploaded to commons as a non-copyrightable image as its simple shapes and text. I'll remove the music video image but your serious... cover arts are not allowed? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 04:18, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
P.s. there's bit of a one horse battle at Talk:Dance in the Dark -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 04:32, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I'm serious. This is for not only cover arts, also for film posters, DVD cover, book cover etc etc, unless you find an extremely strong rationale. See the recently promoted FA Taare Zameen Par and check its rationale. Its pretty difficult to get that kinda rationale since there's mostly no background story related to cover arts. And is it Stephen again? — Legolas (talk2me) 04:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh my... I wasn't aware. So this listing that Chase helped me create here is likely to be deleted? jeeze... well if that's what it takes... it was a hideous cover art anyway. So plain and uninspiring. And 2 b fair the music video image can go. The one in the promotion section is from commons/flicker that should be ok right? So I can expect a massive drive to delete existing FA images then such as Irreplaceable and 4 Minutes (Madonna song)? Yes its Stephen creating a small amount of noise in the big empty forest.
Well the massive drive is still not confirmed, discussion is still going on at WT:NFCC but as you know its FAC, they have their own sucky rules sometimes, and this rationale thing is one of them. And why, Stephen, why? He's talking of a bigger issue, its better that you advice him to take it to WP:SONGS. I hate him anyways. — Legolas (talk2me) 04:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
urg! it takes lot to use the word hate!! Lol. Fairplay I've removed the music vid. one and i'll remove the single cover before I nominate. I'll leave the live performo one as its a free image. In the mean time I do remember the cover art of Bad Romance getting some reception when it was released, just a matter of finding the articles!!! -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 04:56, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Don't worry boo, you will use this word about him if this discussion turns out to be the fun one I used to have with him. Lol. And yes the free image can of course stay. They are the gods who precide over FACs. He he. As for Bad Romance, ya I did find Hedi Slimane talking about it in Photography magazine. Just finding a way to incorporate it. Tonight we gonna be it on the floooor. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:00, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Lmao.... oh goodie... i'm leaving Stephen to you. I've said what I wanted to with that article. Tis all yours. I have some mad Rihanna stans to contend with over at Talk:S&M (song) and Talk:Raining Men (song). I don't even like Rihanna LOL. I had a look at the FAC talkpage... i think i'll stay well away from ANY of the discussions... no objections from me lol. Surely a note in the infobox would suffice for Bad Romance? no... walk walk ... its fashion baby.... And as for being on the floor... i've done that three times this week. I'm running on empty!!! -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 05:05, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Nah, don't leave that one with me. You gave your points and I gave mine, let him take it up with WP:SONGS. This is a generic issue. As for FAC, when you submit the article, you surely have to dedicate a lot of the time. For BR, a separate section for the artiwork is needed ala this epic I'm working on. And WTF, wat are you running on empty.. be specific... lolllllllz. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Be specific... I'm running on empty lol. I've literally been hit on the floor three times this week. U think my diet have been mainly liquid based and its obvious where I got my calories from!!! I need a normal week but it defo aint happening anytime soon. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 18:13, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
If I may weasel myself in here... Surely the WLTO cover is PD – it is just letters and shapes? Anyway, non-free media should not be ruled out like this. I'm no lawyer, but it seems like decent fair use to have a single cover. Hmmph. What twits. I'm off the the WT:NFCC discussion. Err, umm, forget what you just read. Adabow (talk · contribs) 10:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Welcome Adabow. And nooooo, it has been imprinted in my memory like the BTW tattoo on Gaga's thigh!! — Legolas (talk2me) 11:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Lol. Oh well. How tragic, they'll just have to close the discussion down now, seeing as it's so corrupted with my opinion. And I have a feeling that BTW is only going to sell on Godga-worshipping fans and Gaga's mega media hype. Adabow (talk · contribs) 11:16, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I have a gut feeling that it might flop. Gaga is taking a big-big-big risk. But then again, its Gaga, you can never-ever expect anything or really predict eh? — Legolas (talk2me) 11:21, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Nah, it won't commercially flop – Bieber hasn't got any new stuff lately, so Gaga is all 10-year old girls have. But yeah, the critics may hound it... Adabow (talk · contribs) 11:24, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Lol, Gaga's demographic has vastly increased. Its not only 10 year olds, but I have personally seen oldies and goldies waiting for this album. That's why its a bigger risk. Madonna succeeded with True Blue, lets hope Gaga can too. Whenever I DJ at any party, people are still hogging for remixes of Gaga's songs. So the initial hype is too strong. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:27, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
So... what your DJ name? Something really witty, I hope... 11:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
I go by the name MOKSH. If you ever come to Bangalore, I will take you to one of my plays. Its just a side hobby. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:42, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Sigh.. there are so many places I want to go... if only I won Lotto..... Adabow (talk · contribs) 11:49, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

(→)Don't worry, get a rich boyfriend or girlfriend, depending on your choice. Lol. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry to interrupt this lovefest but... [eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek! (now you may continue) -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 18:48, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Yay! On the Floor release date!! --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 03:33, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
YESSSS. I saw that on pulse! And did ya all see the mmusic video set pics!! Mad mad mad! Wigs are gonna be snatched! Adabow, I will get to that image in sometime. And go get a JLO girl to Upgrade ya! — Legolas (talk2me) 04:58, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
YUp agreed... I am familiar with webcite... just been a tad lazy. will update soon as poss. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 14:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Done. now the question is... is it ready for the mainspace? Or should we hold fire till there's more news on its release? -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 00:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

With regards to WLTO, the deed is done. Now let the fun begin with the FA comments. :( -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 03:05, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

OMG, have fun then. This experience will be an eye-opener for you. As for OTF, can we wait till the add date? I don't want those idiotic afd tags. — Legolas (talk2me) 04:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
You should move to mainspace on Feb 1/2, then ask for it to be on DYK on the add date – could be a nice hook. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:48, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I was thinking... did you know that... Jennifer Lopez's 2011 comeback single, "On the Floor," samples Kaoma's 1989 hit single "Lambada" and was also compared to Kat DeLuna's 2010 single "Party O'Clock"?" -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 21:56, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Agnes GA

Hurry and review it! :D I want to fix it all up soon! --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 03:31, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

You shouldn't have said that. :D — Legolas (talk2me) 04:59, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I should have expected what came up. Question What's the dif between "publisher" and "work" in a reference. --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 12:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
For eg, in a billboard.com reference, Billboard is the work paramter, since they are working and printing the article. Prometheus Global Media will be the publisher, since they are making Billboard publish their work. Clear? If not, use Kleenux. 15:19, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

I was pretty sure it was going to fail, I just wanted a list of why exactly. Also "how much did you really contribute?" --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 21:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

You do undestnad right? I didn't think you were that much associated with the article. Your own work that you are doing is quite good, but this article was pretty lame. That's why I asked. — Legolas (talk2me) 03:58, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Sure I have't been contributing to the article for more than a week but I did make improvements in formatting all the references (which took a long time) and rewriting a lot of the content. I didn't know exactly what to do since I don't quite know the GA qualifications, yet, but I did do what I could. I also sourced everything I could find a website for, which also took hours since everything was in Swedish. I tried! XD --ĈÞЯİŒ 1ооо 13:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

UK Number One Hits??

Legolas, do you know anyone who has the book 1000 UK Number One Hits (by Jon Kutner and Spencer Leigh)? I would like to know which page number is Kylie Minogue's Spinning Around. I found the material from a source, but do not have the page number. Novice7 | Talk 11:47, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Confused. If you have the book, why can't you search from the index from the backpages, or if it is online, do a Ctrl+F. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:56, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
No Legolas. I saw it on some website. They only have the song's detail, no page numbers. I haven't seen the book at all. I added the details, just the harvnb citation. Can you please? Whenever you're free. No hurry at all :) Novice7 | Talk 12:00, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I don't have the book. You might wanna try User:Frcm1988, but he is rarely editing nowadays. I will look around in my library though. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:03, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I have asked him. Thank you. Novice7 | Talk 12:12, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I know what I'm going to ask does not belong in this section, but, can you please check Irresistible PR out, and maybe leave some comments for me?? Novice7 | Talk 04:55, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey kiddo, would you mind if I take a look at it in evening? I'm at office now. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh, sure. Sorry, I keep on forgetting that you'll be at work this time of the day :( Novice7 | Talk 05:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay. I just found something. Gaga revealed Born This Way lyrics (I know I'm late, lol). It's amazing, inspirational!! Just a silly question. Do you think it resembles Xtina's Beautiful in any way? Novice7 | Talk 09:47, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Butting in here :P. So Novs, I also read them. I'll be honest, they are a little cheesy :S "Don't be a drag, just be a queen"? lol. I hope its got a hard beat (I like the hook already, the one she sang live) but we'll have to see. I'm more excited for "Edge of Glory" the lyrics to that seem more complex and mature. And no, I don't think its like "Beautiful". I mean they are both anthems, but remember that Xtina's is a ballad, whereas Gaga's will be a supposed club banger. Also, a quick question guys, do you know if Mariah's "Without You" is in the 1000 UK book? It was #1 there. I hope so, because since it didn't reach #1 in the US, there is less info on it :S--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 09:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Hmmm.. Harry Nilsson's version reached number one in US and UK. It should have a page on the book. About Mariah's, I'm not sure, but, I guess it'd (as they've compiled charts from 1952 to 2000s). I'm sure it is included on Fred Bronson's Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits book. And about "BTW", well she could do a ballad. Gaga's voice (from what I've heard) can handle a ballad just like a dance song. I have to check Edge of Glory lyrics out ;) Novice7 | Talk 10:01, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Well yes Harry Nilson's is in the Bronson book, but since Carey's went #1 in Europe and not the US its not in there :S. I guess I'll have to search for it in the UK one. Although "I'll Be There" will be easy, both versions are US #1 :D. Yup, thats true, Gaga, especially now has a pretty good voice. I so far though, cannot listen to her ballads. Both "You and I" and "Speechless" are total snoozefests lol, don't like! I like "Paparazzi" and "Bad Romance" :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 10:06, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
The other book (Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits) may have info on Mimi's Without You. Or, you could dig Google News Archive or HighBeam, just like I do :D Novice7 | Talk 10:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, sorry we bore you Mr. Grouch :P--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 10:20, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
The lyrics, kid, the lyrics made me yawn and confirmed that BTW is flopping. #HereForTrolling. — Legolas (talk2me) 10:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I was about to say that. Yes Nathan. You should check the libraries out. And Legolas, as I said earlier, Gaga has a bigger and stronger fanbase now. So, I'm sure it won't flop :) Novice7 | Talk 10:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
lol, sorry Legolas ;) didn't catch you're drift. I mean I'm sure the hype will be strong, but it might flop if it gets too "anthemish" and cheesy. I mean she's not famous for heart-wrenching ballads and anthems, she's famous for being different, weird, wacko and talented, not for being Celine Dion. I don't know, I'm starting to speculate like Legolas. Yes thanks Ada, I'm gonna check now :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 10:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Just stopping by to ask about the PR.. I'd be glad (more than glad) if you could review it for me :) Novice7 | Talk 16:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey there :)

Hiya Legolas, how ya been all this time :D Whats up?--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 00:50, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm good Nath. Just been busy with the monitoring role and the online ambassador mentoring thing. Plus that Wikicup thing is eating me... Grrr. So, your marriage thing is over I guess. How's your sister? — Legolas (talk2me) 06:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Well you're doing a good joB! :) Yes all done, she moved now to Baltimore :(
So you excited for "Born This Way" in 2 weeks? I actually got to say I am very curious an exited, but also skeptical. She's been way to confident and showy ad arrogant lately, honestly, that album better be amazing!--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:56, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
On the contrary, I'm fearing the worst. But that remix played at that fashion show was amazing. — Legolas (talk2me) 08:19, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
I really think you're viewing this thing the wrong way. I never was rude or told Indopug that his comments weren't correct. On the contrary, I did exactly what he asked. As for Tbhotch, if you really believe that that is all me, then I don't know what you're reading buddy. He looked for an edit war, and then to "punish" me by slapping on an oppose that had nothing to do with the actual article.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 18:33, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
On the contrary, he is indeed correct. You are again submitting underprepared articles and this is going down the same way as your previous FACs. Ergo, you are exhausting resources. And my point wasn't even mainly for the nom, my point was the personal attack. What was teh reason for it? If you see Tbhotch's talk page, I did ask him for his reason also for inserting that heinous link from my talkpage. I understand taht everything happened in the heat of the moment, and I am hoping that both of you can move on from this petty incident and not forget that friendship is above all these issues. — Legolas (talk2me) 18:38, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
I surely don't see it that way, and I don't find Butterfly under prepared actually. Also, I never attacked him, I expressed how I felt and why I was upset. While I may have gone a bit far, I did not out and out insult him or curse him out. And honestly Legolas, no, I take extra care when I deal with friends, so you can't tell me that. He came and didn't give a crap and started a stupid edit war with me, then instead of discussing it with me, he just slaps an oppose and starts criticizing me. Sorry, but he handled it terribly and I felt betrayed.--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 18:42, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Did you check it with WP:FAC?. You would have noticed where it lacked. Indopug pointed out some, there are still others. Comments like "go to school and learn English" are personal insults, whether your conscience says so or not. And didn't give a crap? Couldn't the high and mid importnace parameters have been discussed? In this one both of you are wrong though. And lemme tell you this, as a friend, what Tbhotch did could have been done by any delegate or reviewer, because they have noticed these continuous submissions of underprepared articles. Would you have yapped at them also like this? Cool down Nathan, log off and have a drink, read something, then log in. I know you are hurt, but you will recuperate I believe. — Legolas (talk2me) 18:53, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Alrighty Legolas, I really appreciate you're advice and input, I really do. I will get back into GAs though, there is never an FAC without drama, no joke lol. I'm starting to regret having nominated anything, not because of its quality, because I feel its ready, but because of all the unnecessary drama surrounding it. Thanks again! BTW, what would you say to MC going heavy beat, dancy music next time? lol I want her to come back like in 2 years, fit, sexy, rested, new sound and album. Nowadays R&B isn't fairing to well, especially for older acts like her, so I think she needs to have an "It's Like That" with kind of a Euro-dance "Only Girl" sound, then have a really strong ballad to follow :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 19:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

My experience shows that any woman, after she becomes a mother, there is a huge change in perception. For Mimi the birth is coming at a much later stage (bless her). I believe a similar change in perception will come and the ugh stuff will go away (H.A.T.E.U. video). It is this point of time that any person has a complete sense of everything and a fulfillment. Anything they create, is joyous. Ya, Mimi might go in the dance direction, and I seriously want her to. Her R&B schitck is so dated now and her voice is not tailormade anymore to sing ballads. This will be a genre she hasn't dabbled before and hope we are surprised. When is the due date for her babies? — Legolas (talk2me) 19:08, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes I totally agree, I really hope that she has completely different stuff, I don't want another "re-packaged" Memoirs. Yes, the R&B is good up until parts of E=MC2, but it is enough already, I want new stuff, I mean its obvious people are getting tired of it. Uchhh, yes, I hate "H.A.T.E. U" the song and video, totally weak song, and the production, uchh! Hmmm, well its officiallt reported that she's do at the end of April, beginning of May, but I think sooner, she looks so huge already :s--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 19:11, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Watchhhh 'n see, in a few years, electro/dance-pop will be back out and R&B back in !! Candyo32 - Happy New Year :) 20:49, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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