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Return to Neveryon

I feel enough wikification has been done that the tag is no longer needed.Geni 10:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Delany tagging

Thanks for the head's up :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 17:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Personally I would keep the seperate articles. However the content of the article may need to change so that their focus shift towards the particular individual novel or the series as a whole in hte case of that article. If there is overlap that can be placed in the series article and refered to in the individual articles. :: Kevinalewis : ^{(Talk Page)}/_(Desk) 09:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

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Missed Nova (novel) and Return to Nevèrÿon as well - thanks for the heads up! And to think that was in user oversight mode - not automated. <sigh>. As for the non-LGBT content, I've read about half a dozen of Delany, but certainly not all. I semi-assumed (knowing I was wrong) that most of his works had LGBT content. If you run across some of his books that don't have LGBT content, would you remove the tag? Thanks again for your help! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 04:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Change to Samuel R. Delany page was not vandalism. (Reply)

"Stratum" is the singular for "strata". The wording was correct and was not vandalism, therefore the threat of banning was not appropriate. Just thought you should know. --Kdring 00:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for catching my mistake! I hope to be more careful from now on (with reverting and warning). Again thanks! Cheers, S.D. ¿п? § 01:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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Re: Triton

I placed the 'fact' tag not for a reassurance of the subtitle of The Dispossessed (I have a copy too - in fact, by odd coincidence, I happen to be reading it right now) but rather for the statement that Delany intended Triton to be a response to Le Guin's novel. It's the sort of thing that makes a lot of sense and I'll bet it is true, but it sure would be nice to have a source to back that up. -- Antepenultimate 03:07, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Cool, and thanks for caring! IMO, anytime a statement begins with "So-and-so said..." (in this case, "Delany has said...") and ends without a source, a 'fact' tag is gonna rear its ugly head. Anytime someone can get rid of one, it's a big improvement. Thanks again -- Antepenultimate 03:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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Delany

Thanks for your note on my talk page, and thanks for creating the Delany articles. I always try to get a first edition cover, but am uncomfortable deleting covers that others have uploaded, so I generally move them down the article.--Rtrace (talk) 16:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

The Locus index indicates that the Incunabula limited edition of Atlantis: Three Tales is the first edition. I have a picture that edition in in Chalker and Owings The Science-Fantasy Publishers and it appears identical to the Wesleyan edition except that it is gray (just as you say). Unfortunately, the image is too small to upload and I couldn't find another image of the limited edition. Interestingly, Chalker/Owings say the Wesleyan edition came first. However, both Locus and ISFDB disagree with that and Chalker/Owings is somewhat infamous for having mistakes.--Rtrace (talk) 18:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for mentioning the listserve. However, I'm a little embarrassed that I've not actually read much of his work. I've attempted Dhalgren, and the first Neveryon book, but finished neither. I've got most of his early work, but haven't gotten around to it yet. I have actually read the two Wonder Woman comics he did. The reason I've been updating his articles is that I've been working my way through Donald Tuck's Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy and adding details to articles that exist. I'll go a little deeper with some authors (Tuck only goes through 1968) and have treated the bibliographies of Bradbury and Clarke similarly. It's probably a little odd that I seem to enjoy looking up all this bibliographical data, but I do.--Rtrace (talk) 23:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Rtrace, many people find Delany's earlier work more accessible than his modern stuff (more street, less classroom). Try to take him in chronological order and follow his evolution (skipping the porn, if you wish, and the other non-sf). Kdring, next time you correspond with Chip, tell him Orange Mike in Milwaukee says "Hi!" and hopes to see him at more WisCons! --Orange Mike | Talk 18:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy to oblige. The only reason I hadn't done Dark Reflections previously was that the Locus Index is only complete to 2006. I don't know when they put out the 2007 pages. Regardless, the Library of Congress had the info, so I was happy to do the infobox. It was also easy to find a cover image. I've also put a 1st edition cover out for They Fly at Çiron. Also, I meant to thank you for verifying the 1st edition of Atlantis. I'm impressed at you for knowing him, and at him for being so accessible--Rtrace (talk) 20:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

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"award-winning"

"Award-winning" is the kind of peacock term we try to avoid in articles, especially the lede; you won't pass Featured Article review with that phrase in place, for example. That's not to put down Chip in any way (he and I go back a ways). --Orange Mike | Talk 20:26, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

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No, it's not vandalism. It's called HUMOR and it's highly relevant, given that the alleged book doesn't have a release date yet that I have seen.

In other words, this is a wiki about something that does not actually exist. It's not supposed to feature information that cannot be independently verified or cited elsewhere, nor is a wikipedia article supposed to be a thinly disguised product annoucement. So at this stage my "vandalism" is as valid as the article itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gea-141020 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 17 September 2009

Chip wasn't at WisCon this year

So I couldn't ask him about the "Marxist" thing. He was mentioned, of course, quite frequently. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:16, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

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