User talk:Jeff G./Archives/2011/January

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question on an external link -

hi jeff, not sure if this is the correct way to ask for assistance. i posted an external link and it was removed. Is this something you can help me with?

thanks george — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgebarone (talk • contribs) 00:43, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Your link to your beercoastermania website appears unacceptable on a couple of levels:

WP:LINKSTOAVOID#EL11 - it appears to be a fansite for beer coasters, in violation of "Links to blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority. (This exception for blogs, etc, controlled by recognized authorities is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for people.)", as you don't appear to be a recognized authority because there is no Wikipedia article about you. You are a welcome to expound on your notability here, on your user talk page, or on your user page, keeping in mind WP:AUTO.
WP:ADV - you appear to be "linking to a site that you own, maintain, or represent" (appears to be registered to you, "Contact Me" email appears to go to you).

I have removed the other two recently-added external links for the same reasons. If you disagree, I suggest you post to the WP:ELN (External links Noticeboard). — $Jeff G. ツ$ 01:51, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jeff, thanks for the information. i am very new to using any of the above and the protocol for editing/adding to Wikipedia. Couple of comments. A few of the other external links are the same 'type' as mine. Primarliy the first 4 and the last one. All cover various aspects of coaster collecting. They are all 'fansites' for coaster collectors. Mine specializes in USA coasters.

I do maintain and own the site which is also the same for the ones mentioned above. Full access to mine is free, one of the others charges a fee for complete access.

As for an 'expert'. i would consider myself an expert on collecting USA coasters and have been doing it for over 30 years. I have done appraisals for insurance purposes and for assisting in buy/selling large collections. I have been written up in a book on breweriana collecting and interviewed for various publications "http://ephemera.typepad.com/ephemera/2007/02/interview_with__3.html"

My site is used as the sole reference for all USA beer coasters by hundreds of collectors world-wide. It has photo's of over 20,000 USA coasters.

Where & how would be the best place to have the above reviewed in conjunction with posting the external link on Wikipedia? Thanks for your advice and assistance. george —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.229.74.11 (talk) 15:02, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, sorry for my delay in responding. ephemera.typepad.com appears to be the blog of Marty Weil, which doesn't appear to qualify as a reliable source. To be fair, I'm not picking on just you - I removed all the external links and more in this edit to Beverage coaster as WP:VANISPAM. Any editor associated with one of those external links and resources would need to get reputable journalists to write about them in edited / peer reviewed publications before such link or resource would be eligible for inclusion here. — $Jeff G. ツ$ 16:19, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Jeff, thanks for your guidance on this topic. I appreciate the consistency you applied. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgebarone (talk • contribs) 00:02, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Cheers! — $Jeff G. ツ$ 03:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Try to avoid my article being deleted

Hi Jeff,

not sure how to ask for help. I really don't know much about wikipedia. I work for a non profit organization and we have an article written by one of our doctors thats we were asked to post to wikipedia. It is about a disease called Myelodysplastic Syndromes. The article that I tried to post on Friday was written by one of our doctors and i copied and pasted from the email he sent me to wikipeda and now I am getting a message saying it was copyright infringement. Not sure where to go from here. Can you help?

Foundation4573Foundation4573 (talk) 19:59, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

The article Management of Iron Overload in Myelodysplastic Syndromes (MDS) was deleted for being G12 Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:yW5bpFCNgIAJ:wenku.baidu.com/view/047b234d2b160b4e767fcf20.html+%22Such+measurements,+though+useful%22&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=, which is a cache of http://wenku.baidu.com/view/047b234d2b160b4e767fcf20.html, which is a copy of the National Comprehensive Care Network^®'s Clinical Practice Guidelines in Oncology™: Myelodysplastic Syndromes: V.1.2007 (Version 1.2007), presumably available in 2007 and perhaps beyond via registration at http://www.nccn.org/professionals/physician_gls/f_guidelines.asp. Who asked you to post it to Wikipedia? Which non profit organization do you work for? — $Jeff G. ツ$ 18:38, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy Tenth anniversary of Wikipedia!

File:Verre de whisky.jpg

Happy 10th anniversary of Wikipedia!

WAYNESLAM has bought you a whisky! Sharing a whisky is a great way to bond with other editors after a day of hard work. Spread the WikiLove by buying someone else a whisky, whether it be someone with whom you have collaborated or had disagreements. Enjoy!

Spread the good cheer and camaraderie by adding {{subst:User:HJ Mitchell/WikiScotch}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Message received at 17:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

WAYNESLAM 17:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Edit summary

How come when you put content or change content on a talk page or user page such as this, how come put it in your edit summary, too? WAYNESLAM 16:44, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I comply with "In the case of a small addition to an article, it is highly recommended to copy the full text of this addition to the summary field, giving a maximum of information with a minimum of effort." per m:Help:Edit Summary#Recommendations. — $Jeff G. ツ$ 03:45, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Should I try it? WAYNESLAM 15:04, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please. — $Jeff G. ツ$ 01:10, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I will do it. Thanks! WAYNESLAM 01:13, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) What I don’t understand is the inclusion in the edit summary of the indenting colons and the signature tildes. Also, I cannot find the text at m:Help:Edit Summary#Recommendations that you cited here on Wikipedia proper at Help:Edit summary. Does Metawiki trump the local wiki? I wasn’t aware of that. Thanks! — Spike Toronto 06:17, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I usually go the "minimum of effort" route: copy what I wrote, paste it at the end of the Edit Summary box, and ignore whatever doesn't fit. If doing that ignores important stuff, I'll try to trim or summarize. I have used MediaWiki on hundreds of different wikis, and this style of Edit Summary has worked well for me on all the rest. Also, Help:Edit summary doesn't say not to do this, or even imply that it is a bad idea. In general, more specific instructions on usage from a software package's developer (such as the MediaWiki Handbook) trump less specific instructions on usage from an organzation that uses it (such as Wikimedia's MediaWiki Handbook - they are the same in this case), which trump those of the community of a specific installation of that software package by that organization, especially when all three don't conflict with each other. — $Jeff G. ツ$ 12:59, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

By the way how did you change your signature? Did you change it in your preferences? WAYNESLAM 20:38, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer Jeff. Wayne, you know how to change sigs; you changed your own! Btw Jeff, what does the Kana character in your sig mean? — Spike Toronto 20:48, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

I knew that, Spike is that his new signature was used in one of my archives which when he made the edit it was a different signature. WAYNESLAM 21:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Interesting. It shouldn’t change edits already made. (Btw, that that was what you meant was not clear when you asked it.

). Interesting that. — Spike Toronto 22:30, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

My signature did not change wikitext, but it did change look because the "texhtml" font class changed. I have yet to figure out how and why the "texhtml" font class changed — I don't like what it changed to. Your question has prompted to me to change my signature again. However, I kept "ツ" which to me is the best viewed representation of a smiley within the limitations of WP:SIG. Interestingly, there is a redirect ツ to article Tsu (kana), with "The katakana form is becoming increasingly popular as an emoticon in the Western world due to its resemblance to a smiling face" included in the lede. — Jeff G. ツ 23:31, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Your signature used to be like this: — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) before you changed it and you added ツ to your signature. The "texhtml" problem didn't happen to me. It's pretty weird. WAYNESLAM 00:09, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Jeff, what did the texhtml font class look like before compared to now? Wayne, if I understand correctly, a change in a font class would indeed have the effect of changing previous (i.e., old) edits that use that font class. However, the signature that you present as Jeff’s old one does not use the texhtml font class. Or, does it? I didn’t think it did … Perhaps the ones that changed in your archives were of a later Jeff G sig that did use the texhtml font class? Unless even the default WP sig (e.g., Jeff G. (talk)) does indeed use the texhtml font class. Interesting stuff. — Spike Toronto 01:16, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

It was thick, tall, and sans-serif; it is no longer any of those. For background, please see the end of User talk:Jeff G./Archives/2010/July#Your_overly_large_signature.2C_again. — Jeff G. ツ 02:53, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Jeff. Interesting reading. I think you were rather dogged on that one. However, reading the archived material makes me think that Wayne may have his dates wrong. If one looks here, one still sees your penultimate signature without the yellow. The changes you made yesterday did not affect postings made prior. Thus, if one were to look far enough back, one should find that talk page edits signed by you with this signature — — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) — still look like that and not your latest sig. Would you agree? Thanks! — Spike Toronto 21:25, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes, according to my user page history, I started using that particular sig (with /talk and without sizing or texhtml) after I implemented /talk 08:15, 21 November 2007 (UTC) and stopped after I implemented sizing 07:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC), elapsed time 1 year, 10 months, 29 days, 22 hours, and 47 minutes. — Jeff G. ツ 04:05, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Holy details Batman! I was just trying to help Wayne figure out if his dates were wrong …

Thanks! — Spike Toronto 06:03, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Why did you change that signature? WAYNESLAM 00:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

I didn't like what it changed to and I wanted another way to stand out, so I went with some color. — Jeff G. ツ 03:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

October 2008 - The recent edit you made to Talk:Henry VIII of England constitutes vandalism, and has been reverted.

Hello,

I recently logged into Wikipedia and received the message below. I have never edited an entry on Wikipedia and I am not responsible for this 'vandalism'. However, I believe that I have most likely received the message due to having recently been issued with a recycled dynamic IP address which was assiciated with the edit in question at the time. Perhaps you can confirm that this is the case. Obviously I am distressed at having been associated with this 'vandalism' and would like to prevent this happening in the future. The suggestion at the bottom of the message is to log in to Wikipedia to avoid such problems but I was logged in at the time and still received the message. Your advice in this matter would be appreciated.

Regards

Félim Doyle

Felim (talk) 19:09, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

User talk:82.0.163.191 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:82.0.163.191&redirect=no

User talk:82.0.163.191 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [edit]October 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Talk:Henry VIII of England has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. TheSuave 17:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
The recent edit you made to Talk:Henry VIII of England constitutes vandalism, and has been reverted. Please do not continue to vandalize pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 17:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

This is the discussion page for an IP user, identified by the user's numerical IP address. Some IP addresses change periodically, and may be shared by several users. If you are an IP user, you may create an account or log in to avoid future confusion with other IP users. Registering also hides your IP address. [WHOIS · rDNS · Traceroute · Geolocate · Rangeblock finder · Global blocks · Global contributions] · [RIRs: America · Europe · Africa · Asia-Pacific · Latin America/Caribbean]

(talk page stalker) You are most likely correct that you received a recycled IP address and that those edits from over 2½ years ago were made by someone else. On the one hand, you could just ignore it, knowing that it was not directed at you. On the other hand, you could go to http://whatismyipaddress.com/ to confirm that you are truly connecting from IP 82.0.163.191. If you are, then perhaps you could approach an Administrator (most likely a CheckUser) and ask him/her to delete the talk page for you, thus giving you, in effect, a clean slate.

Jeff is significantly more technically minded than am I and so may have even better advice. Thanks!

— Spike Toronto 20:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Félim, thank you for writing, and welcome to Wikipedia. In addition to what Spike wrote above, it appears that the IP Address you may be using, 82.0.163.191, made this vandalistic edit 17:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC), and that I posted a warning to its user talk page about a minute later. It also appears that the IP Address is registered to NTLI Network Management Centre, now a part of Virgin Media Inc., in or near Aylesbury, and was in late October 2008 used by someone who very much disliked King Henry VIII. As the warnings are now stale, I have taken the liberty of replacing them with a welcome. Also, you should know that even if you have just logged in using one tab in one window in one browser, any other tabs, windows, and browsers could still be showing stale information retrieved before you logged in — I think that's what you saw (if it's not, there's a bug that needs reporting via Bugzilla). — Jeff G. ツ 03:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Content questions from a new user

Hi, I know how busy you must be, thank you for any help.

Basically I'm editing my small suburb towns (Rocker, Montana) information and want to know what does and doesn't put me in jeopardy of liability in any way.

What I would like to do is name the local businesses and functions. There are only 9 not including the adult place which I won't mention in the WIKI. Just need to know if this acceptable or not.

And yes, I plan to register as a WIKI editor.

Thanks much, Bud Eveland bud.eveland@gmail.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.220.171.148 (talk) 18:15, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Admin tools wiki

Hi, and sorry for asking about this, but I don't know if you are still an admin or bureaucrat on the admin tools wiki, but if possible, can I take over the wiki for you? My wikia username is Eglinton

205.189.194.208 (talk) 22:20, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

I am indeed still an admin and bureaucrat on the Admin tools wiki[1]. I am not the owner or originator of it, it is run by us bureaucrats with help from us admins and was originated by user Jhjnju. I don't know if you are in fact Eglinton, but you probably don't have the skills we are looking for yet, as evidenced by "I don't know" above (you should have been able to figure it out), your unwillingness to use Edit Summaries (you should always use them), your request to delete an alleged page that you should have the authority to delete all by yourself[2], and the fact that you are only an admin there at the Toronto Wiki because you created that wiki 17 days ago. — Jeff G. ツ 04:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)