User talk:GabrielleNSmith

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AfC notification: Draft:Mr. Dutch has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mr. Dutch. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 09:20, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mr. Dutch (November 15)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

As per previous comment, this is VERY poorly sourced and will need a complete re-write in neutral tone.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Mr. Dutch and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Theroadislong (talk) 09:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, GabrielleNSmith! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Theroadislong (talk) 09:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mr. Dutch (November 15)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

please address the tone!

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Mr. Dutch and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Theroadislong (talk) 10:58, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My second edit[edit]

I removed content I thought not useful to the article. You are free to revert my edit. David notMD (talk) 12:44, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mr. Dutch (November 16)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Greenman was:

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

The comment the reviewer left was:

See WP:COI. Please do not resubmit until you have address COI concerns and substantially improved the tone.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Mr. Dutch and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Greenman (talk) 11:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mr. Dutch (November 26)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Princess of Ara was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

COI concerns have not been addressed by the author. Proud of his roots and humble beginnings is not encyclopaedic writing.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Mr. Dutch and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Princess of Ara 10:14, 26 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mr. Dutch (November 27)[edit]

Your recent article submission has been rejected. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Bonadea was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: The only change since the previous decline is that the specific words mentioned as an example of the promotional tone have been removed. But the entire draft is promotionally written, and each time it has been declined, it has been resubmitted with only superficial changes.

The draft creator has not addressed the COI/UPE question. The most recent previous decline mentioned two things: the inappropriate tone in the phrase Proud of his roots and humble beginnings and the COI question. The draft creator removed the words, so they clearly read the decline comment but chose to ignore the COI part of it.

bonadea contributions talk 12:50, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please advise on how to further address the page's tone. There is no conflict of interest, I would simply like to publish a page for a musician that does not currently feature on Wiki. I have provided references to support the copy. Thank you. GabrielleNSmith (talk) 09:47, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia does not have "pages", it has articles. You did not pick this musician at random. How did you come to edit about him? 331dot (talk) 09:51, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies, the artist does not have an article on Wiki. I came across new music being released by this artist and wondered why there was no Wiki article. The artist has collaborated with several artists that already feature on Wiki and I wanted to contribute my first Wiki article. As a writer I have written for various outlets before and understand Wiki has it's own tone of voice. I wish to have the article published and would appreciate feedback on how I can amend the copy to be suitable for the platform. GabrielleNSmith (talk) 09:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So what you are saying you are a writer as a career but writing about Mr. Dutch is not part of your career? 331dot (talk) 09:58, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No this is not part of my career and I have not been paid to produce any Wiki copy. Anyone should be able to contribute articles to Wiki. I intended to write my first article for Wiki on the artist and following publication, write and submit articles on various topics. GabrielleNSmith (talk) 10:00, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You don't have to be specifically paid to edit Wikipedia to be a paid editor under our rules. Any form of paid relationship with a subject triggers the disclosure requirement. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The musician is a Nigerian artist and do not have any form of paid relationship with the subject? GabrielleNSmith (talk) 10:10, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. The draft was rejected, which means that it won't be considered any more, at least for now. No amount of editing can confer notability on someone. 331dot (talk) 10:19, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please can you explain why the article has not met Wiki guidelines. I wish to contribute further articles and would like to understand what can be done to ensure they are approved/published. GabrielleNSmith (talk) 10:21, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You've been told why before. I may have more to say later; limited on time at the moment. 331dot (talk) 10:24, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

see WP:NSINGER for the relevant criteria. Theroadislong (talk) 10:25, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Mr. Dutch has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Mr. Dutch. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 10:04, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is referenced from https://www.vanguardngr.com/2020/08/mr-dutch-drops-video-for-addictive-afrobeat-single-mamacita/ GabrielleNSmith (talk) 10:07, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Then it needs to be a quote, though we have little interest in what he has to say about himself, articles report on what reliable, independent sources say. Theroadislong (talk) 10:21, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you for the feedback. GabrielleNSmith (talk) 10:24, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 2022[edit]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because your account is being used only for advertising or promotion.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. 331dot (talk) 15:49, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In looking at your edits, you claim the image of Mr. Dutch, which seems a professionally taken image, as your own work. Either it is, and you have not been entirely forthcoming about your relationship with him, or it isn't, in which case you have violated copyright. Either is sufficient reason to block, but given your other edits and seeming investment in this topic, I am inclined to believe the former. 331dot (talk) 15:52, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Mr. Dutch[edit]

Hello, GabrielleNSmith. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Mr. Dutch, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:02, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Mr. Dutch[edit]

Hello, GabrielleNSmith. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Mr. Dutch".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:21, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]