User talk:FMRSJR

August 2022[edit]

Hello, I'm MaxnaCarta. Your recent edit to Biodynamic agriculture appears to have added incorrect information, so I removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. MaxnaCarta (talk) 02:36, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just to weigh in on a topic with which i am well versed: use citations for your claims, find sources for the benefits your describe, make the article better. Thanks for helping me create an encyclopedia, Saintstephen000 (talk)

The only changes I made were to take out that it’s all pseudo science - since it’s been proven to improve soul productivity just like other regenerative methods. The article even says so but tosses out its value just because of spiritual components. Just because the preparations can’t be isolated in scientific study does not mean the outcomes are not the same as organic and regenerative methods. I did not remove any citations so I am unsure why I need to provide them., but I will do my best to do so in the coming days.

Thank you :)

FMRSJR (talk) 02:58, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

I have two scientific studies that show that there are benefits to Biodynamic Agriculture:

1. A review of scientific research on biodynamic agriculture: A review of scientific research on biodynamic agriculture

Source: Santoni, M., Ferretti, L., Migliorini, P. et al. A review of scientific research on biodynamic agriculture. Org. Agr. 12, 373–396 (2022). https://doi.org/10.1007/s13165-022-00394-2

"This review was based on a structured literature survey of peer-reviewed journals indexed on the Web of Science™ (WoS) Core Collection database carried out from 1985 until 2018. We found 147 publications of studies in journals with an impact factor. Of these, 93 focused on biodynamic agricultural practices, 26 on the sustainability of the biodynamic method, and 28 on the food quality of biodynamic products. The results of the literature review showed that the BD method enhances soil quality and biodiversity."

2. Source: Morandé, J.A., M.G. Vaghti, J.N. Williams, J. Medellin-Azuara, & J.H. Viers. 2018. Carbon Inventory and Annual Increment Analysis of Vineyard Blocks and Adjoining Wildlands of Bonterra Organic Vineyards. Pacific Agroecology LLC Project Report. Davis, CA. 25 ppd.

"In partnership with Pacific Agroecology of Davis, Calif., we conducted a study in 2017 – 2018 to discover how farming choices affect organic carbon storage in soil and above-ground plants. The study’s findings indicate that organic and other types of regenerative agriculture have a positive impact on soil health, and encourage us to continue exploring the dynamic relationship between soil and climate resilience."

Farming Method

Conventional: 41,000 lbs

Organic: 45,200 lbs

Biodynamic 46,300 lbs

"Vineyards farmed with organic and Biodynamic methods stored 9.4%-12.8% more SOC per acre, respectively, than the conventionally farmed control vineyard"

According to the study, Biodynamic methods sequestered the most carbon dioxide via soil building.

FMRSJR (talk) 04:21, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I found one more study that supports scientific assertions about the benefits of Biodynamic preparations on soil health.

"Soil and Winegrape Quality in Biodynamically and Organically Managed Vineyards."

Jennifer R. Reeve,1* L. Carpenter-Boggs,1 John P. Reganold,1 Alan L. York,2 Glenn McGourty,3 and Leo P. McCloskey4

Am. J. Enol. Vitic. 56:4 (2005)

"In studies comparing organic and biodynamic treatments differing only or primarily in use of the preparations, biodynamic plots developed greater soil biological activity, greater soil microbial diversity per unit respiration (Mäder et al. 2002), greater soil organic matter, soil organic N, microbial biomass, and microbial dehydrogenase enzyme activity, greater dehydrogenase per unit microbial biomass (Abel 1987, as translated by Koepf 1993), and greater microbial biomass and root growth (Goldstein 1986)."

"Biodynamically treated winegrapes had significantly higher (p < 0.05) Brix and notably higher (p < 0.1) total phenols and total anthocyanins in 2003" FMRSJR (talk) 01:14, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fantastic work. Now just find sources from reputable botany science publications, and it will be informative. Saintstephen000 (talk)

Those cherrypicked indicators are fine, just notice that you cannot feed 4 billion people with all existing agricultural lands, using biodynamic agriculture. You can produce some tasty and overpriced fruits, vegetables, dairy and meat, but not feed the world. Billions would have to die overnight to make that possible. tgeorgescu (talk) 03:10, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi tGeorgescu. This unverified claim has nothing to do with the subject behind my citations, does it? Did I ever suggest that that all land should be transitioned to Biodynamic agriculture? As SaintStephen00 points out, please provide peer reviewed citations to support your assertion that transitioning all agriculture to Biodynamic would have such disastrous effects. Otherwise it’s all just unsubstantiated and highly opinionated hearsay.