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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023[edit]
Hello Eejit43,
Backlog
Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.
Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.
WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.
Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.
You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.
Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).
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Tech News: 2024-15[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Web browsers can use tools called extensions. There is now a Chrome extension called Citation Needed which you can use to see if an online statement is supported by a Wikipedia article. This is a small experiment to see if Wikipedia can be used this way. Because it is a small experiment, it can only be used in Chrome in English.
- A new Edit Recovery feature has been added to all wikis, available as a user preference. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the project talk page. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
- Initial results of Edit check experiments have been published. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at the wikis that tested it. Let us know if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check. [1][2]
- Readers using the Minerva skin on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings. [3]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar). [4][5]
- New accounts and logged-out users will get the visual editor as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. [6]
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
What was happening on Talk:2021-2022 inflation surge?[edit]
AnomieBOT was probably running into a misbug where it bypasses triple-and-more redirects but keeps re-processing the page. Normally this doesn't cause a problem since the re-processing is normally just null edits. But why were you edit warring with it to remove a colon from the target and remove the (useful, IMO) redirect categorization templates? Anomie⚔ 11:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Anomie that you for mentioning that, I was going to bring it up with you later. {{R avoided double redirect}} was out of date and throwing an error. I can't seem to reproduce that error right now, however, though it was somehow related to the earlier move. As such, I ran my user script, redirect-helper on the subject page to resolve that double redirect, assuming the talk page would have had the same issue. Seems like there must have been a caching issue on the page, and as such it kept throwing the error when AnomieBot updated the page. Seems like it is resolved now, thankfully. If not, I'll dig into the issue a bit more deeply.
- And while you are here: {{R from modification}} should be switched out with the new {{R from alternative hyphenation}}. Thanks! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 14:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- I forgot to mention, my tool automatically removes the auto-g8 (not specifically, but all non-whitelisted templates, something I'll can change). As for the redirect templates, I'm generally not a fan of having any rcats on talk pages aside from {{R from move}} as I think all it does is clog up tracking categories that would then have the subject page and talk page. I think it's better to just have the subject page categorized, but that is again just my opinion. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 14:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder whether {{R avoided double redirect}} was complaining about Talk:2021–2022 inflation surge still pointing to Talk:2021–2023 inflation until someone fixed that double redirect. Anomie⚔ 16:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- That would be it, yes! I got muddled around with that big chain of redirects. Thanks! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 16:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Anomie just FYI, alongside the change to {{R from alternative hyphenation}}, the use of {{no redirect}} is no longer needed with recent changes to those templates! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 02:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- That would be it, yes! I got muddled around with that big chain of redirects. Thanks! ~ Eejit43 (talk) 16:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder whether {{R avoided double redirect}} was complaining about Talk:2021–2022 inflation surge still pointing to Talk:2021–2023 inflation until someone fixed that double redirect. Anomie⚔ 16:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- I forgot to mention, my tool automatically removes the auto-g8 (not specifically, but all non-whitelisted templates, something I'll can change). As for the redirect templates, I'm generally not a fan of having any rcats on talk pages aside from {{R from move}} as I think all it does is clog up tracking categories that would then have the subject page and talk page. I think it's better to just have the subject page categorized, but that is again just my opinion. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 14:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-16[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using Flagged Revisions, the "Reverted" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed. [7][8]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar). [9][10]
- Default category sort keys will now affect categories added by templates placed in footnotes. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked). [11]
- A new variable
page_last_edit_age
will be added to abuse filters. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made. [12]
Future changes
- Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. Learn more.
- Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including Quarry). This affects only the
abuse_filter
andabuse_filter_history
tables. Some queries might need to be updated. [13]
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:26, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
This reminded me of three things (relating to the script):
- Feature request: currently the script suggests rcats e.g. r to section/anchor and r wikidata. It would be nice if you could just click on the warning text to add them.
- Second feature request: supporting rcat redirects from Category:Template redirects with possibilities. If it helps I have some code for this for Missing Redirects Project, see the source code and search for
fetchRcatsAndInit
. - I'm planning on nominating your tool for meta:Coolest Tool Award.
Happy editing! — Qwerfjkltalk 18:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- 1. A great idea, and something I've been meaning to implement for a while. I'll start on this soon!
- 2. Another good idea, and I'll have to think about how I want to implement it. I'll also start on this soon (and maybe simply fetch rcats from the category as well, instead of parsing from WP:ALLRCATS)!
- 3. I'm honored, thank you! I'm glad this tool has been so useful.
- Again, thanks! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 23:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
New page patrol May 2024 Backlog drive[edit]
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Tech News: 2024-17[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Starting this week, newcomers editing Wikipedia will be encouraged to try structured tasks. Structured tasks have been shown to improve newcomer activation and retention. [14]
- You can nominate your favorite tools for the fifth edition of the Coolest Tool Award. Nominations will be open until May 10.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 April. It will be on all wikis from 25 April (calendar). [15][16]
Future changes
- This is the last warning that by the end of May 2024 the Vector 2022 skin will no longer share site and user scripts/styles with old Vector. For user-scripts that you want to keep using on Vector 2022, copy the contents of Special:MyPage/vector.js to Special:MyPage/vector-2022.js. There are more technical details available. Interface administrators who foresee this leading to lots of technical support questions may wish to send a mass message to your community, as was done on French Wikipedia. [17]
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MediaWiki message delivery 20:25, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Bad move[edit]
You chose a bad move target for Tiden (newspaper, Arendal) because Tiden (newspaper) is also a Norwegian newspaper. Geschichte (talk) 04:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Whoops, thank you! I have no clue how I missed that. I'll fix that later, and likely make a disambiguation. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 11:08, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done! Tiden (Arendal newspaper) is the new location, and the other newspaper has been moved to Tiden (Christiania newspaper). Tiden (newspaper) is now a redirect to the Tiden disambiguation page. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 13:30, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Query regarding redirect-helper warning[edit]
Hi Eejit43 - and thanks for building redirect-helper :)
I just had a query regarding a warning it gave me -- I was trying to create a redirect from Ffransis (given name) to Ffransis with the rcat {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} (before I realised that Ffransis G. Payne would be a better target, as the rest of the people listed at Ffransis had it as a surname), and redirect-helper warned me that [t]his page is a redirect to a surname list, but it is not tagged with a correct disambiguation categorization template
. I was slightly confused by this - it might be that I'm missing something, but I'm not sure what redirect template the script wanted me to use here!
All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 09:59, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, now I'm wondering if redirect-helper wanted me to use {{R from incomplete disambiguation}} -- I suppose whether the disambiguation is unnecessary or incomplete depends on whether or not a name list is thought of as more of a stand-alone list or as a tool for disambiguation. —a smart kitten[meow] 10:05, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- redirect-helper considers valid surname list templates to be {{R from ambiguous sort name}} and {{R from ambiguous term}}. I hadn't thought of {{R from unnecessary disambiguation}} when creating that check.
- However, I think using both "R from ambiguous term" and "R from unnecessary disambiguation" would make sense, as the latter doesn't imply that the target is a disambiguation page (or in this case, a surname list).
- Does that sound right to you? Thanks! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 11:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 25 April 2024[edit]
- In the media: Censorship and wikiwashing looming over RuWiki, edit wars over San Francisco politics and another wikirace on live TV
- News and notes: A sigh of relief for open access as Italy makes a slight U-turn on their cultural heritage reproduction law
- WikiConference report: WikiConference North America 2023 in Toronto recap
- WikiProject report: WikiProject Newspapers (Not WP:NOTNEWS)
- Recent research: New survey of over 100,000 Wikipedia users
- Traffic report: O.J., cricket and a three body problem
afcrc-helper feauture request[edit]
Hi again - I was just wondering if it might be possible to add the feature to afcrc-helper
to be able to accept/decline some requests in a section, and leave the others for another reviewer to respond to? The use case for this in my mind is in case a reviewer feels confident responding to some requests in a section, but perhaps isn't personally sure about accepting or declining the others - which another reviewer might feel more happy to do. (I just attempted to do this myself at WP:AFC/R, but afcrc-helper didn't like that I hadn't selected a response for all the requests made in a given section.)
(I promise I'm still planning on replying in the section I started above about redirect-helper
, btw - I'm just very disorganised :P
)
All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 12:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello!
- This is actually something I had considered for a while. However, the implementation of this would be quite difficult, especially considering the script would need to account for actions other scripts take too. Parsing those sections could just lead to too many issues I think. At some point this might be something I look more into, but for the lack of usage I'm not sure it is necessarily worth it.
- Probably best just to leave requests open if you are unsure about part of it. Sorry!! :) ~ Eejit43 (talk) 13:16, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- No problem - that makes sense. Since leaving this message, the potential complexity of implementing this started coming to my mind as well - so I can’t say I blame you for leaving it :) All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 14:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-18[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The appearance of talk pages changed for the following wikis: Azerbaijani Wikipedia, Bengali Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, Persian Wikipedia, Hebrew Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Indonesian Wikipedia, Korean Wikipedia, Dutch Wikipedia, Portuguese Wikipedia, Romanian Wikipedia, Thai Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Ukrainian Wikipedia, Vietnamese Wikipedia. These wikis participated to a test, where 50% of users got the new design, for one year. As this test gave positive results, the new design is deployed on these wikis as the default design. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at all wikis in the coming weeks. [18]
- Seven new wikis have been created:
- You can now watch message groups/projects on Translatewiki.net. Initially, this feature will notify you of added or deleted messages in these groups. [26]
- Dark mode is now available on all wikis, on mobile web for logged-in users who opt into the advanced mode. This is the early release of the feature. Technical editors are invited to check for accessibility issues on wikis. See more detailed guidelines.
Problems
- Kartographer maps can use an alternative visual style without labels, by using
mapstyle="osm"
. This wasn't working in previews, creating the wrong impression that it wasn't supported. This has now been fixed. [27]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 May. It will be on all wikis from 2 May (calendar). [28][29]
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MediaWiki message delivery 03:31, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Courtesy notice of RM[edit]
Hi Eejit43 — I noticed that {{R from gender}} is listed in redirect-helper.json, so I just wanted to drop you a courtesy note that I’ve proposed that the template is moved to {{R from gendered term}}: Template talk:R from gender § Requested move 1 May 2024. All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 09:52, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you!! I'll monitor the RM and update the script if the template is moved. :D ~ Eejit43 (talk) 12:00, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Elvis at The Scope[edit]
Here is the information on when Elvis played The scope.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28w9DeY5RjE Charliehd29 (talk) 17:47, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! However, YouTube is not a reliable source, see WP:RSPYT. If you do find a reliable source, feel free to add it to the article. However, I would instead say something like The venue has featured artists such as Elvis Presley.... ~ Eejit43 (talk) 18:44, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-19[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The appearance of talk pages changed for all wikis, except for Commons, Wikidata and most Wikipedias (a few have already received this design change). You can read the detail of the changes on Diff. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at remaining wikis in the coming weeks. [30][31]
- Interface admins now have greater control over the styling of article components on mobile with the introduction of the
SiteAdminHelper
. More information on how styles can be disabled can be found at the extension's page. [32] - Wikimedia Enterprise has added article body sections in JSON format and a curated short description field to the existing parsed Infobox. This expansion to the API is also available via Wikimedia Cloud Services. [33]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar). [34][35]
- When you look at the Special:Log page, the first view is labelled "All public logs", but it only shows some logs. This label will now say "Main public logs". [36]
Future changes
- A new service will be built to replace Extension:Graph. Details can be found in the latest update regarding this extension.
- Starting May 21, English Wikipedia and German Wikipedia will get the possibility to activate "Add a link". This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to all Wikipedias. These communities can activate and configure the feature locally. [37]
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