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Thanks for the links, very useful. Thanks again.

C-c-c-c 07:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem. happy editing! --He:ah? 07:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I've been blocked for some reason...haven't done anything but posted a question in the Reference Desk. C-c-c-c 03:02, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

What is your IP address, you don't seem to be blocked -- Tawker 03:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Can you help me? I think I signed out after but was still on Wikipedia, after trying to answer a question on the discussion page, I found out I was blocked.C-c-c-c 03:15, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Please copy the whole block message you got when trying to edit. It may be that you have a dynamic IP (like AOL) that was blocked or autoblocked after someone else used it for vandalism. I'll need that information to unblock you. Dmcdevit·t 03:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed your helpme thing, and I checked the block log for your IP. It should unblock within the next 10 minutes or so, but you do have a shared IP address, so you may be blocked for things you really didn't do. Usually blocks for shared IP addresses are short, so if you ever do get blocked, you won't have to wait too long.

Also, please make sure you include edit summaries when editing. It makes keeping track of things easier! You won't need the helpme box anymore, since the block will soon pass. Happy editing! Jfingers88 03:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, just a recent Wikipedian as of....yesterday. But thanks! C-c-c-c 03:39, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Sign messages

Hi C-c-c-c. Could you please sign your messages with four tildes instead of just three? That way we'll know who you are, not just when you wrote. Thanks, Andrewjuren(talk) 03:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Don't you mean instead of 5? 3 is name, 4 is name+date, 5 is date. Feel free to insult me if I'm wrong. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 | T | C | @ 23:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Does it really matter? URGENT: SOMEONE UNBLOCK ME!!!! P.S. I think you're right:P C-c-c-c 23:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

hey

Gde živiš u Kanadi? Ja sam iz Vankuvera. --serbiana - talk 23:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Ja živim u Vinipegu, ali hvala bogu da je sada lijepo i vruće vreme. Normalno je jako zima kod nas. Ja bi teho da se sada zahvalim zato zašto sam ja od vas koristio code na user page-u za Kosovo i ja sam metno na moju stranic ako je to uredu svama. Izvinjavam se ako dosto reći su ovde pogreškno napisani. Ja znam da sam napisao da dobro srpski pricam ali imam samo 16 godina i nikad nisam u školu kod nas zbog rata išo, ali ucim se. Ja nemam problema sa govorom srpksom jezikom, ili vrlo malo. Ali sam ovde polago ispit u srpksom jeziku u high school i prošosam! Puno hvala iz Vinipega. Neznam ako ovo kod vašog user page-a da metnem ili kod mene onak sam u oba metno. C-c-c-c 23:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC C-c-c-c 23:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

wow, I mean wow, 15 years of age and so full of politics on Balkans on your head. And you say you never lived in Serbia. I mean, wow! It is amazing. Ilir pz 23:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

E, ćao Ilir, vidim da si i se i ti upoznao sa ovim korisnikom. Inače, još pokušavam da ti nabavim onaj film o kojem sam ti pričao.

C-c-c-c, slobodno koristi šta god ti treba za user-page, ne ljutim se :-)

Vinipeg? But, thats in the middle of nowhere :-) Šalim se. Dobro pričaš srpski, bolje nego Ilir, a on živi u Srbiji. Ja sam u Kanadu došao pre 2 godine, tako da sam još dosta vezan za moju otadžbinu, a vidim da si i ti vezan, pa mi to daje nadu da neću zaboraviti na svoje poreklo, kako vreme bude prolazilo. Mogao bi malo da uređuješ i za srpsku Vikipediju, sada je i na ćirilici, i na latinici. Ja sam tamo administrator, mogu da ti pomognem oko uređivanja, doduše, mislim da bi se lepo snašao. --serbiana - talk 00:12, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, Boris, never lived in Serbia. thanks for the comment. Ilir pz 12:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Isn't it sad... The Yugoslav countries have drifted apart so much that noone knows where they live anymore. Serbia, Ilir, Serbia. --serbiana - talk 00:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Serbiana, hvala puno. Nadam se da se vama Vankuver sviđa i ako ima puno kiše. Ja ću da malo čitam u srpskoj Vikipediju da se propravim. Ne čitam slabo ćirilicu ali ponekad kad pišem trebam se puno misliti. Ja več čitam neke naš vijesti na internetu kada imam vreme.

Now to Ilir...

Two years in Bosnia, six in Germany, eight in Canada. So, no, I'm not a home-grown ultra-nationalist. Sure the wars have affected me, you, and almost everyone in the Balkans. I didn't have a father for a good portion of my life because of the war, I don't know any of my family from back there. I'm ashamed that I can't properly speak and write in my first tongue, but English being my second last language( third in total, if Serbo-Croatian/Bosnian is one), somehow falls easy for me. So I have an eagerness to learn about my ancestry and country because I had the opportunity snatched from me to learn it there first hand. Oh yes I've very interested in history, geography and politics. CNN is always on, even though I don't tend to believe everything, and so is the History Channel. I'm full of random history facts, and I deeply enjoy it. I've read books on Nostradamus, to Newton, to Galileo, Magellan, Copernicus, whoever was important, and not just a Serb.

But I however, do challenge things people say ( such as, that Marconi invented the radio), even if I'll lose marks or fail because it's right. I can't wait for my AP History Exam next May (2007). I hope to score well indeed. Sure as a 16 year old I can't change the world, or write that first year university course, but next year I will, and I hope to do very well writing a college exam at 17.

As Serbiana might know, school's here are pathetic. Get into AP, and it starts taking on a European level of education. (The grade 12 in AP is your first year university course everywhere else.) Then if I do well, I can skip right onto second year university, and save myself some needed money. And then when I get my 5 on the exam I'll send you the transcript, hey ? I wonder what to write when they ask about the Balkans....mhm? C-c-c-c 00:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

C-c-c-c, Vankuver je divan grad. Jeste da mnogo pada kiša, ali kad prestane, negde oko Maja, do Oktobra je raj na zemlji. Inače, zovem se Boris, možeš tako da me zoveš, Serbiana mi je nickname koji sam stavio da malo nerviram neke korisnike iz Hrvatske (već su nekoliko njih rekli da promenim nadimak). Uostalom, to je oduvek i bila taktika Hrvatske - sve što je srpsko je velikosrpsko, ako u Hrvatskoj kažeš da si Srbin, onda si i nacionalista, veruj mi, živeo sam dve godine u Rijeci, HR. Pročitaj moj članak o Velikoj Hrvatskoj, i razumećeš o čemu pričam.

Nemoj da mi persiraš, pređimo na "ti" (na Wikipediji vlada Komunizam, šalim se). Što se tiče Ilira, nije on loš, živeo je u SAD neko vreme, oči su mu otvorene (za razliku od mnogih na Balkanu). U početku smo se žestoko svađali, dok ja nisam prihvatio da je Kosovo izgubljeno i da nema svrhe svađati se oko nečega što za mene lično nije važno. On, kao i ja, mrzi nacionaliste, ali je on, kao i ja, pomalo i sam nacionalista. Neće on to nikad priznati, takva je priroda svih ljudi na Balkanu, svi smo mi pomalo nacionalisti i poznati smo po tome.

Am I being analyzed here? I feel important.:))) I lived(studied) in Norway for 4 years, and that many in Bulgaria. Also lived in Paris for a short time. As we hail from the balkans, we all have a little nationalism by default. I think we all agree in this. But mine, no matter how small it is, is never directed toward harming anyone. THAT is very important. Ilir pz 12:05, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Drago mi je da imaš ambicija u oblasti istorije. Ja sam uvek bio pristalica ideologije "ko kontroliše istoriju, kontroliše i budućnost". Pročitaj "1984" od George Orwella. Ovde je škola stvarno katastrofa, univerziteti nisu ništa bolji, a o društvu da ne govorim. Dao bih sve kanadske prijatelje za jednog iz Srbije. Srećom, imam devojku koja je iz Beograda, pa se osećam malo više kao da sam u Srbiji. U svakom slučaju, ne planiram ovde da ostanem dugo, jer, a mislim da će se Ilir složiti samnom, there's no place like home.

Imaš li MSN? Moj e-mail je bormalagurski AT hotmail.com. Add me :-)

--serbiana - talk 23:19, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Zdravo Boris. Tvoja priča od hrvata je smešna jeli sam i ja danas tako pronašo. Gledo sam danas nešto na sportskom kanalu od nogometa. Bila imisija od privenstva u junu u Nemačkoj i svaki put pričaju od nekoliko država u "in depth analysis". Danas su od Hrvatske pričalji i smio sam se. Jedan igrač kaze, "We are Croatian, so we will never be satisfied". Nije lago, toje prava istina. Nisam pročito 1984, ali smo mi u školi pročitari Brave New World. Oni su oba "utopian societies". Iduće godine trebamo čitati 1984 ali ču sigurno prija u moje vreme čitati. Imam MSN, metniču te sada. Vidimo se. C-c-c-c 05:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

About statistics and your remarks in Kosovo talk page:The chart was added by someone else, I just put it back when someone removed it without explanation. It seems to have quite a credible source (World Bank, if it is enough for you). I am not sure you are more an expert than World Bank statisticians, but nevertheless. Not sure about the stats before WW2. I am more curious to know where you got that info, that Tito forbade Serbs to do anything in Kosovo (until death of Rankovic, and later 1974, when Albanians got more rights).Ilir pz 12:02, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Ilir pz 12:02, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I meant forbade them to return, didn't make that clear enough, sorry. The Serbs that fled during World War II from Kosovo were not allowed to go back home by Tito. I am not saying the source isn't credible, and really, isn't it saying what all Serbs have been saying? There used to be large Serb minority/majority (however you want to look at it) at one point, and that slowly throughout history, Serbs have fled or been killed in large masses. However, what I was saying was, that during in 1991, and 2000, there couldn't possibly be a similar Serb population. These were war years, were large numbers of Serbs were killed or forced to flee. Between 2000 and 2005 it dropped 3 full percent points, during a time declared as being "peace time". All I'm wondering about is how accurate this estimation could be. C-c-c-c 02:19, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Hipi, again

Oh, oh, ho. Du wars fast durch die ganze welt und bist du immer noch der selbe geblieben. Wie ih es sagte der CCCC kalender ist stehen geblieben. hahaha . Tung from Hipi (I am not Hipi). Man, verschviende nich deine zeit hier irgend welche geschite zu schreiben. Kein schwein list das hier auser serben, albana und die aus der Balkan. Die ganze welt hat die schnauze voll von Balkan und deren mytologie (die moderne mytoligie auch). Versuche es was zu machen da mit wir mehre administratoren in en:Wiki zu bekommen. Die Welt is gross es gibt genugt fur alle uns. Jetz is nich die zeit in Balkan krieg zu fuhren, last uns in USA, Kanada stadte grunden, und morgen werden unsere kinder streiten wer war der erste der diese spiel angefangen hat. Aber weren desen last die Kosovaren in ruhe, die mussen deren gebite von araban zuruck eroberen Egypten und die umgebung. Der Milosevic war eine vagbond niX anderes. Er hat alle bau vertrager der Kosovaren mit Gadafi und Egypta gekondigt. Davon hat Kosovo viele miliarden dollar verloren. Fals du in westen gelebt hast den weist du warum es geht. Jetz diese auftrage furen General Motors, Siemens ect. Der Milosevic war so dumm das e geht nich mehr. Er hat zusammen mit diese kakalken gearbeite und dachte das er etwas gewinnen kann. Und was hat er gewonnen mein Schw... soger das auch nicht. Stech auf, weil dein schlaf is zu tief oder deine ogen sid blid oder deine kalender ist stehend geblieben.

Die zeit werend die anderen geschichte schrieben und du die geschichte in Buchen geschrieben has, es ist vorbei. Die zeit werend die andren von der krieg mude geworden waren und du uber die geherrscht has is vorbei. Jetz must du dein brot selber verdienen und las das folk in Herzogovina in frieden. Die mussen erstmal zu sie kommen, nutzes nich die situacion. Gehe arbeiten! und hore auf mit palavra (Hipis). Wiki-wiki aus Deutschland

Hipi, das bist du hier, jeder Idiot kann das sehen. Wahrscheinlich glaubst du dass du intelligenter bist als wir anderen, sonst würdest du nicht Blödsinn über mich sagen. Wie kannst du sagen dass ich mich nicht verändert habe, Gott sei Dank kenne ich dich nicht persönlich. Ich bin noch jung und ändere mich jeden Tag, ich bin kein Opa der im Schaukelstuhl sitzt und der ruhig ein Buch liest. Als ich jünger war wusste ich nicht den Unterschied zwischen Serben, Jugoslawen, oder Kroaten. Ich wusste dass ich als Jugoslawien kam und nichts anderes. Meine Elterne waren keine Nationalisten, sondern fast Kommunisten, aber noch sehr liebe Eltern. Als ich zu Deutschland geflohen bin, war ich sehr jung.

Ich wusste kaum etwas über meine Kultur und habe die deutsche Nationalmannschaft im Fussball angespordet. Ich habe die Nationalhyme gesungen mit meiner rechten Hand auf meiner Brust. Jetzt, hasse ich Deutschland, und warum denn fragst du? Wegen der Geschichte, weil sie Leute wie Tiere behandelt hatten, noch schlimmer als Tiere. So behandelten sie Serben und Juden und jeden denn sie nicht gemögt haben. Also, kannst du nicht sagen dass ich mich nicht geändert habe. Gib mir keine Scheisse mit idiotischen Vorschlägen dass ich Kosovo in ruhe lassen soll. Oh, jetzt sollen wir Kosovo in ruhen lassen und keinen Krieg weiter kämpfen weil ihr ja fast Selbstständigkeit habt. Aber früher als die Serben in der Regierung waren, hattet ihr keine Problem mit der UCK. Ob die UCK Leute tötet ist egal für euch, ihr habt nur ein Ziel für Kosovo, eine "Lösung" für die ganze Minderheit Kosovos zufinden. Warum soll ich dass Volk in Herzegovina in ruhe lassen? Was für ein Recht has du, weiter die Scheisse schreiben? Bist du aus Bosnien? Bin ich aus Bosnien? Du has keine Ahnung gerade jetzt, und wenn du nicht sicher bist solltest du die Schnauze ein bisschen kleben. Serben kommen aus Bosnien, und ihr nicht, darum lebt ihr alle in Albanien und Kosovo, aber dass ihr aus Kosovo kommt bin ich auch zweifelhaft.

Ich bin aber froh dass du dich entschieden hast in deutsch zu schreiben, denn dein englisch ist leider sehr schwach, am meisten mit dem Buchstabieren, aber grammatischer Weise ist es nicht so schlecht. Du musst nur mit dem Buchstabieren weiter arbeiten und dann wird keiner jammern das er oder sie dich nicht verstehen können. C-c-c-c 05:39, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Hipi is jetzt mitologie. Er hat seine job gemacht. Er hat die montenegriner und die kosovaren artiklen von belgrada propaganda befreit. Jetz is die aufgabe der wikipedianten die neutralitet zu bewahren. Was bedeutet eigentlich serben, serbia, serbische stadt? Is das eine religion, nacion, region oder was? Woher nimms du das rechte unter diese namme "serben, Serbien" hier auf zu treten. Wenn du diese namme benutzt den muss du auch in richtigen platz benuzen. Deine problem ist einfach mangel an zeit entwicklungen der geschichte. Du benutz alle argumentacionen von der geschichte die unter name "Servia" laufen zu beweisen das ist serbische nation bedeutet. Denks du das irgend einer wird es schluken deine produkt. Einfach gesagt schlecte auftrit in die Welt Buhne. Hipi hat recht gehabt. "Die belgrader propaganda benutz den term Servia um die andere nationen (volker) zu unterwerfen" dafur benutz die selber art und weise wie nach den Osmanen kriege die moto CCCC (nicht vergesen das war mal bizantische zeichen und hate mit heutigen bedeutung niX zu tun.).

--Ejte 05:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Would anyone agree with me that this sounds very very much like Hipi again? Note that this user name was only created on the 27th of April. Both have minimal English and German skills. Suspicious. Sockpuppet, anyone? C-c-c-c 05:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Continued from Serbiana's talk page

Oh very funny. I know Montenegro will get it's independence and Montenegro will have enough votes to become independent, obviously. Why? because have you seen the campaigns for Montenegrin independence, like some in the USA and in Montenegro. Many Montenegrins want their independence, you can ask them yourself in Montenegro. But truly it is funny if they call the UN and tell them that the vote was rigged, which I would do, so that way, Montenegro can get its independence, no matter what. Anyways, no independence referendum is allowed to be rigged. If the Montenegrin referendum is rigged, I'd be p***ed off big time. So make sure no one RIGS THE REFERENDUM !!!!!! CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 20:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

You seem neutral on Montenegro's independence, but on Boris Malagurski's talk page, you make it seem like you oppose it. What is your problem, really? You are really trying to make me be very mad at you, as well as other Montenegrins (assuming), which I am right now after reading what you put down.(Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 03:06, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Here, I'll tell you my honest opinion. I'm doing it here since I am STILL blocked, and if some could PLEASE unblock me I'd greatly appreciate it. I don't want Montenegro to split, or Kosovo, or even Republika Srpska. Why ? Because I think splitting up the ex Yugoslavia into a dozen countries will do no good. Sure you'll have your own country, but you'll still have to be neighbours with them anyway. But I see the Montenegro independence is most likely inevitable, and so with Kosovo, so I don't know, I'm not really pro or against...I just want it all to be over with for once. C-c-c-c 03:33, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I doubt its ever going to be over. Probably ex-Yugoslavia will keep spliting or probably only Montenegro and Kosovo will be independent, and that will be it.CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 21:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Some help

{{unblock|Hi, I've been blocked by user [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Drini Drini]. My IP adress is 24.66.94.140 because I share IP's with some vandal (this is like the 10th since I've been using Wikipedia, not just with a user name). If an administrator can help, Thanks. }}

Hi. I saw your help request. If you want to ask for unblocking, use the {{unblock}} template. I've changed your help message to an unblock message for you. Mangojuice^talk 00:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. C-c-c-c 01:26, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you to whoever unblocked me! Or it just may have expired...C-c-c-c 18:25, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Physics

No problem, I'm just glad to know that I can still figure these things out if I put my mind to it. Melchoir's solution isn't really that complex, just he used one formula derived from a few more basic ones, which lets you do the calculation in one step. I've never been good at memorizing formulas, so I've always relied on a great deal of common sense and reasoning to get to my final answer. It takes a lot more time (especially on an exam) but if it helps you understand clearer than go for it!  freshgavinΓΛĿЌ  23:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

El condor pasa

Please cool down a bit. You are not going to get her to change of mind. No point on getting personal. In any case, as far as I see it, the page shall be certainly kept. Regards, --Asterion ^{talk to me} 19:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. BTW, why is the song called "el condor pada" instead "el condor pasa"?--Asterion ^{talk to me} 19:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Strange... Pada means nothing in (Peninsular) Spanish, maybe it is different in Andean Spanish, but I doubt it as there seems to be a musical piece named "El Cóndor Pasa" too which is like a second national anthem for Peru[1], plus the Simon and Garfunkel version [2]. Regards, --Asterion ^{talk to me} 20:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

You could actually translate it as "The condor passes through", "the condor comes [and goes]" or more accurately I would say as "the condor flies over". It is very difficult to translate it word by word: in the same way, in Spanish you may "el autobus no pasa", meaning not that the "bus does not pass through" but that you has been waiting for it for a while...

By the way, I just found a mention of a grafitti in La Paz, Bolivia, saying "El Condor Pasa, La Dictadura Queda": The Condor comes and goes, Dictatorship remains. Well, I think you get the idea :o) --Asterion ^{talk to me} 20:31, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

"Estoy embarazada" (--> I'm pregnant) while trying to say I'm embarrassed (Estoy avergonzada). Yes, quite funny! Now that you told me about Padati, it sounds as if they deliberately chose that title indeed! --Asterion ^{talk to me} 21:06, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Great. I never go to bed without being taught something new :o) --Asterion ^{talk to me} 21:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Not that late, just 10.15 but it has been a long day :o( --Asterion ^{talk to me} 21:18, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Factual Evidence deleted by Ilir

Oh Ilir, don't give me that crap. Left because of economic migration? Please be kidding. Have you considered a job in the propaganda industry? I think we both know it's ethnic cleansing. The following text is not from an online source, but rather from Encarta Student Encyclopedia 2006, and the same information can be found on the Encarta website, but since anybody can edit that too, I've decided to stick with the "real copyrighted" version, If you don't mind. Here we go:

As NATO-led troops began occupying Kosovo, the UN Security Council set up a temporary administration for the province, which was legally recognized as still being a part of the FRY. (In February 2003 the FRY changed its name to Serbia and Montenegro.) Thousands of Serbs and other non-Albanians fled' the province as revenge attacks by Albanians on Serbs and Roma mounted.

Microsoft ® Encarta ® 2006. © 1993-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

In 1948 there were 498,242 Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija, forming 68.46% of the population, 171,911 Serbs forming 23.6% and 28,050 Montenegrins or 3.9%.

According to the 1971 census for Kosovo and Metohija, there were:

• 916,168 Albanians (73.7%)
• 228,264 Serbs (18.4%)
• 31,555 Montenegrins (2.5%)
• 26,000 Muslims (2.1%)
• 14,593 Romas (1.2%)
• 12,244 Turks (1%)
• 8,000 Croats (0.7%)
• 920 Yugoslavs (0.1%)

Isn't it amazing how the Albanian population doubles in a mere two and a half decades? (23 years to be exact, and it more than doubled). This information is from HolyRomanEmperor, posted on the Kosovo talk page, so I hope it meets your "standards". Here are some possible reasons why the Albanian population has dramatically increased:

• 1) They could have a genetic birth defect, to reproduce like a virus.
• 2) They could be extraordinaryly horny people, and lack the appropriate contraceptives and consider abortion murder. (But killing a Serb will get you a free cow and severing a head in one go gets you his wife)
• 3) There may have been a large "immigrant" Albanian population enter Kosovo from Albania. Apparently, as bad as things are in Kosovo, it is no where near as bad as the situation in Albania. Economic migration anyone?

There may also be another reason, related to the first one. Albanians could largely be polygamists. Ilir, you would know, how relevant is polygamy in your society? Is it common? Is Warren Jeffs hiding out in Priština? You could get a big reward you know! But I know, if you want to keep him, we understand, he can half that "doubling" period for you guys in no time.

Anyways, you asked me about the exodus of the Serbs. Why, can't you see it out the window? Nevertheless Ilir, check out this, it's quite informative, and it was published in the New York Times, way before the war, so I hope that it may even meet your standards for once. Here's an excerpt:

"Privately, some officials acknowledge that the rise of Albanian nationalism in a society that is based on the principle of the equality of nationalities is the result of past errors - at first neglect and discrimination, and more recently failure to act against divisive forces or even recognize them.

""The [Albanian] nationalists have a two-point platform," according to Becir Hoti, an executive secretary of the Communist Party of Kosovo, "first to establish what they call an ethnically clean Albanian republic and then the merger with Albania to form a greater Albania. "

Mr. Hoti, an Albanian, expressed concern over political pressures that were forcing Serbs to leave Kosovo. "What is important now," he said, "is to establish a climate of security and create confidence."

The migration of Serbs is no ordinary problem becuase Kosovo is the heartland of Serbian history, culture and religion. Serbs have been in this region since the seventh century, long before they founded their own independent dynasty here in 1168. "

I hope you could believe this to be factual, since the rest of the article seems to be. If you read on farther you should read this:

"The 1981 census showed Kosovo with a population of 1,584,558, of whom 77.5 percent were ethnic Albanians, 13.2 percent Serbs and 1.7 percent Montenegrins.

The population in 1971 of 1,243,693 was 73.8 percent Albanian, 18.4 percent Serbian and 2.5 percent Montenegrin."

The exact same information that HolyRomanEmperor has posted, and that I am using above, so yes even you Ilir will have to agree that this article has at least some truth to it.

This article might interest you as well, as it talks about Albanian drug smuggling, apparently it was a problem as early on as 1985. This one is from the Wall Street Journal, so you know, it should be "okay". I guess drugs must still be a problem, so you know, if you do get that new democratic government one day, you should probably have some money handy for rehab centres if you haven't got any yet.

P.S. What's Serbia like? You seem to be living there.:) Regards, --C-c-c-c 18:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S What's Iliriens like? You seem to be living there.:) Regards

Actually Canada's part of the British Commonwealth.:) Regards, C-c-c-c 22:15, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, thats enough you guys, stop fighting, this is going no where. If Ilir and C-c-c-c are not getting along, you just shouldn't talk to each other. --serbiana - talk 05:56, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Smile!

Asterion ^{talk to me} has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}} or {{subst:smile2}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

userboxes

Hi c-c-c-c, I think you are going a bit too far with some of your userboxes (i.e. Ilir's) and it may get you banned because WP:NPA.Don't do anything silly! PS: Also, please try not to be rude to Ilir in general, whatever your disagreements are. Thanks and regards, --Asterion ^{talk to me} 18:53, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright...but I still think the user box is necessary:P. Thanks for the warning though. C-c-c-c

I restored Hipi's edit. It is really up to an admin to decide. There is no point in wasting energy on the issue and I do not want an edit war about it. I suppose I am partially responsible as I did not try hard enough to explain the problem to him. As far as I know, he is leaving wikipedia in any case. Regards, Asterion ^{talk to me} 20:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

He's leaving? C-c-c-c 20:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

According to the admins, he is not (they did a checkuser), but I could be wrong. --Asterion ^{talk to me} 21:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

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Answer

"I was wondering, are you Serb?"

Да, што питаш? PANONIAN (talk) 22:06, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

У питању су принципи. Пошто сматрам да ни један географски чланак не треба да буде увредљив за већину становника који на тој територији живе, нема разлога да исти принцип не примењујем и у случају Косова. Some of us are fair, you know... PANONIAN (talk) 22:49, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Stop

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.

This user believes in democracy. :)))) Regards, C-c-c-c 20:44, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. You keep offending, calling me a fascist, funny, etc. This is your last warning. Ilir pz 21:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh no! Ilir is going to chop me into a basket! C-c-c-c

Ilir this is a old user in en:Wiki, wich has maked a reserv acount. He wount to do something like "Hipi rebelion" and to be blocked. Everyhing what he is doing is a copy of Hipi, but his problem is big, beacose Hipi is ORIGINAL and he is working in global Wiki not only in en:Wiki. This is serbian version of albanian Hipi. C-c-c-c Im going to give you a TiP :dont iusse the nationalistic terms and simbols, don t make a pesonal attack, finde a better way, the way wich let the peopel thinking about a problem, then you are going to be more ORIGINAL. Hipi has only one interes in en:Wiki, this interes is: en:Wiki free from serbian govermend propagander beacose this image of en:Wiki is costen to Hipi, coupel of user in sq:Wiki. -- user:Hipi Zhdripi

Blah blah blah...I understand zip Hipi. Get a translator. Good day.C-c-c-c 23:59, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

This dont give you the chance to be Hipi sq:Diskutim:Kosova#Ha ha. This is not Hipi but dirty -- Hipi Zhdripi

Lmao Hipi, really, I think I'm going to die of laughter. I think I'd do a better job in Albanian than you could do in English, sad indeed...C-c-c-c 00:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. Don't remove warnings! Jakiša Tomić 08:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Vidim da se tvoje ponašanje tolerira pa samo tako nastavi. Očito sam bio u krivu kad sam te optužio za napade pa moje optužbe zanemari. Samo nastavi sa svojim doprinosima Wikipediji jer su oni više nego poželjni pošto si evidentno marljiv user. Pozdrav! Jakiša Tomić 11:52, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Seconded. Please do not make personal attacks on Wikipedia, not even if you think you're being trolled, not even if others are making them too, not even if you think they're justified. They aren't, no matter what. I'd advise you watch your edit summaries in particular, and to refrain from trying to insult people based on their nationality: edits like this, this and this are simply unacceptable. If you make any more like them, you may be blocked without further warning. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 18:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Award

		The Original Barnstar
		For your contributions to Wikipedia and for your future contributions Jakiša Tomić 11:53, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Please

Please don't remove {{weasel}} and {{peacock}} tags from Greater Croatia – all non-Serbian contributors have commented on the very problematic language used by this article. Read the talk. Thanks. --Elephantus 21:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Nikola Tesla

Huge changes are being administered to the Tesla article, and as I can see you don't agree with that. Please help me revert any major changes your see take place unless they are discussed on talk first. Thanks. We also have to deal with potential groupie editors: [3] 65.11.245.97 02:07, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree, but unfortunately I can't do anything at the moment, my IP was autoblocked, and I share IP's with someone who vandalized so right now I can't do anything, sorry. C-c-c-c 02:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Unblock request

{{unblock|Hi, I've been blocked by user [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Curps Curps] via [[autoblock]]. My IP adress is 24.66.94.140 because I share IP's with some vandal (this previously happened only a few days ago as well.) If an administrator can help, Thanks. }}

I need to know the name of the person who was blocked whose autoblock is affecting you, so I can remove it. --pgk^(talk) 16:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Your user name or IP address has been blocked from editing. You were blocked by Curps for the following reason (see our blocking policy): Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Armpit999". The reason given for Armpit999's block is: "vandalism". Your IP address is 24.66.94.140.

Armpit999 is the user. C-c-c-c 21:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It's expired, thanks. C-c-c-c 22:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Look at your userpage, I've got a surprise for youuuuu :-))) --serbiana - talk 05:43, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Biased editing

You've made a number of highly contentious and unsourced edits recently to a number of articles, such as Kosovo Liberation Army. Please read our neutral point of view policy for an explanation of why you should try to avoid biased editing. -- ChrisO

I suggest if you want to find biased editing you visit Ferick, he's pretty experienced with it.:))) C-c-c-c 07:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

You also use derrogatives like "(reverted terrorist sympathesizer comments)". Refrain from that, it would show maturity from your side. Surprisingly, my impersonator reverted the same parts of text like you, on the same document, within a couple of hours. Strange, ilir_pz 09:36, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I saw this and got confused, but then checked the date and it was edited before the impersonator was blocked. Sorry. ilir_pz 10:24, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

It's alright. By the way, you any good at physics?:P C-c-c-c 10:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I still remember some. what part of it do you need? ilir_pz 20:06, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Please, provide reference

Hi,

I saw that You keep deleting my "" marks from Greater Croatia. I respect Your private oppinions on some croatian politicians from 19th and 20th century or Croats in general, but this is wikipedia, and we play by the rules. One of them is WP:CITE.

Since I never heard anyone, not even serbian politicians, accuse all croatian politician for hegemonism, could you please exlain me where did you get idea that Eugen Kvaternik, Mihovil Pavlinović, Josip Frank, Frane Supilo and Stjepan Radić had anything to do with "Greater Croatia" ideas???

And, plase, do not remove my marks before proper reference is given. After all, that what {fact} is created for.

Thanks in advance, and, plase, play by the rules.

Regards, Ante Perkovic

If you look at the Eugen Kvaternik article you will realize what I mean. C-c-c-c 08:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

1. Regarding Kvaternik - I see only Krvaternik and Ante Starčević formed the Croatian Party of Rights together that is at least suspect that You might consider as a reference
2. I'm still waiting for explanations for inclusion of those other names.

--Ante Perkovic 08:46, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but it's 4:50 am here....doing homework. C-c-c-c 09:51, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I can wait, no problem, as long as You first talk, and then change articles. BTW, You should spend more time doing homeworks and learning history, as I can see from Your contributions ;)). --Ante Perkovic 10:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Reason I don't wind up doing my homework often is because I am reading history...:P C-c-c-c 10:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Blocked

I've blocked you temporarily for repeated edit warring and POV-pushing on Priština and Kosovo Liberation Army. Tag-team edit warring with Bormalagurski isn't an acceptable tactic. Removing reputable references from articles for POV reasons, as you did with the State Department link on Priština, is also a very bad idea. You know the rules - I pointed out several days ago that your editing was very biased - so please don't break them. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. -- ChrisO 22:01, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Right dumbass, but I'm sure the US State Department lies every once in a while, you know like with the whole WMD thing. If you read the article you will find this, "we do not know all the details, only bits and pieces" written. Also they themselves don't have sources, which is what Ilir_pz was complaining about, how sources that don't have sources aren't really sources. C-c-c-c 22:12, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

It's not our job to evaluate the sources of sources. From WP:V: ""Verifiability" in this context does not mean that editors are expected to verify whether, for example, the contents of a New York Times article are true. In fact, editors are strongly discouraged from conducting this kind of research, because original research may not be published in Wikipedia. Articles should contain only material that has been published by reliable sources, regardless of whether individual editors view that material as true or false. As counter-intuitive as it may seem, the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." -- ChrisO 22:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry but isn't that the dumbest thing ever? Did you hear about those WMD stories? I'm sure they were published a few million times in two dozen countries, but no one was refuting them until Bush got busted lying. There are enough books published about how the Holocaust was a myth, should we quote those too? I mean, we can't really verify it, and we shouldn't either, based on Wikipedia's standards. C-c-c-c 22:37, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

And tag teaming it up? Oh, then look at Ilir_pz and Telex. Telex reverted my edits one minute after mine, right after Ilir did his second revert and didn't have any left. But of course, you won't block your buddies, I understand. Please refer to Racism, Stupidity, Propaganda, and how to deal with Serbophobia.C-c-c-c 22:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually I'm more motivated by Badeditingphobia. In the case of Telex and Ilir_pz, they were right to revert your changes to Kosovo Liberation Army and Priština because of the POV and inadmissible nature of the content. However, I'm warning them both not to fight edit wars - it's a bad tactic, whoever does it. Also, although it's probably more than you deserve, I'll shorten your own block. I suggest you take the night off and come back tomorrow with a fresh approach that doesn't involve pushing your own POV. -- ChrisO 22:31, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Meh, I have exams to study for...I just like pissing people off haha.C-c-c-c 22:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

So when's it up?C-c-c-c 23:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

You mean the block's expiry time? 11:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC). -- ChrisO 23:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

... or potentially much later, if you keep up the "dumbass" and "just like pissing people off" type of remark. WP:NPA, WP:CIVIL, please. Alai 23:20, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for suspected sockpuppetry

On the basis of this checkuser request, I'm blocking you for 48 hours for sockpuppetry, 3RR rule violation, and/or other subversion of wikipedia policy. Alai 02:29, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

OMG you dumbass WINNIPEG AND FUCKING VANCOUVER ARE 2000KM APART C-c-c-c 03:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

You dumbass go look at Serbian Wikipedia, we're two fucking different people, fuck you can even ask Ilir_pz who can't stand me, and who awarded Boris a barnstar. God such idiots.. do you want mine and his MSN conversation for proof? Fuck we don't even speak the same languages, stupid dumbass. Go and stick that bagpipe up your ugly ass. By the way, there's like fucking something like 60,000 Serbs in Canada. C-c-c-c 03:59, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Chris0 IS A SAINT COMPARED TO THIS IDIOT!!! Alai CAN ROT IN FUCKING HELL AND SHOULD CHECK OUT HIS GEOGRAPHY!!!!

You have nothing on me idiot, those accounts aren't mine, so therefore I couldn't have broken the 3RR rule...all you can get me for is calling you a dumbass, which was instigated because of the lack of brain cells in that oddly shaped cranium of yours which decided to block me.C-c-c-c 05:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

P

C-c-c-c, I have lodged a complain against the sockpuppetry block as I do not think it is fair or justifiable. But please note that whatever your frustration and wiki-stress level is at this particular moment, please keep it civil and do not insult people. You are not doing yourself any favours in that sense. I would be surprised if the block is reverted indeed. Regards, Asterion ^{talk to me} 06:22, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Update: I thought the block was because you were accused of being a sockpuppet of Bormarlagurski, which is not true. However, I understand they say they have evidence pointing at User:SerbianMafia being a sockpuppet of you. Asterion ^{talk to me} 11:44, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

My sockpuppet? Then why does it say on User: SerbianMafia that it's Bormalagurski's sockpuppet? Great, one half has "conclusive" evidence I'm the sockpuppet, and then other have has "conclusive" evidence it's Bormalagurski's. If look here, [4], here [5], and [6] here, you'll see I was blocked three times for sharing IP's with vandals, twice in the last few days. Shaw is like the AOL of Canada, it's the biggest Internet service provider, so people are bound to have the same IP's, which is the case here. Anyways, there are a lot of Serbs in the Winnipeg/Manitoba area, not as many as Toronto but still enough. Also, User: SerbianMafia made only one edit, and got blocked indefinitely and was immmediately accused of being a sockpuppet because he/she made the obvious mistake of writing the word "Serbian" in it, it might as well be like pronouncing one is Jewish in Iran. C-c-c-c 19:26, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi C-c-c-c, do you know if the IP addresses of Shaw are dynamic or static? Asterion ^{talk to me} 19:33, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

To tell you truth, I wouldn't know because I don't even know what that really means...though when I read complaint about me it said "static". Sorry. C-c-c-c 19:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I guess Boris has been naughty and he drowned you with him. You could ask for another CheckUser and have the logs sent to you: It is allowed to check an editor's IPs upon his specific request, when this user wants to publicly prove his innocence. To be honest, the best thing is just to let it be and try not to get into troubles once the block is over. Cheers, Asterion ^{talk to me} 19:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Alright I'll just wait it out. Thanks for helping out Asterion, very much appreciated. Have you ever considered being an admin? I'd nominate you for sure, anyways, thanks for resolving this. Regards, C-c-c-c 19:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Maybe in a few months. I have much to learn yet and too little time. See you soon. Asterion ^{talk to me} 20:05, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

LOL

Hahaha this is a disgrace,it seems like all users that tryed to help on my article El Condor Pada(well,not mine,but I started it),it seems they all just keep getting banned.

First I was banned for starting that article twice,but when i alarmede Serian comunity on Wikipedia,then I got banned "forever"...Luckly,some of Englsih admins saw its wrong and filled a petition,and then I was finaly unblocked,after almost 15 days(and Wikipedia officialy apologised for my blocking).

But(suprise,suprise),on the very same day that I was unblocked,two other Serbs that tryed to help me with my article El Condor Pada were banned.First Boris,who was of major help both when I was banned and when I was making the article.Then this user,who is clearyly not a sockpuppet.

Next time you want to block people,just be honest about why you doing it,say it clearly next time:"This user is banned because he is Serb." Because there is no reason to do this.

hahhhaah O yes,I would also like to point out to nationality of admin that blocked you CCCC,then it all gets soooo clearDzoni 14:05, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppeting in Kosovo, the biggest threat since the KLA

For anyone unfamiliar where and what Canada is, it's the second largest country in the world, and we lie right above our great neighbours, the Americans....:(

User Bormalagurski lives in Vancouver. I, user C-c-c-c live in Winnipeg, and user Krytan lives in Brampton (greater Toronto area, and too small to show up on map covering this vast an area). And accused of sockpuppeting we are, funny, isn't it, that that god forsaken land called Kosovo is about size of...Connecticut? Funny, they have eleven users from a tiny, tiny area, one of the poorest in all of Europe. And odd, not just how these users come from the same area. There are only seven cities that have a population between 20,000-100,000 in Kosovo. Anything less than that in this area of the world, and we can positively assume that they most likely don't have running water, yet alone a computer with an Internet connection. So now we have Hevnonen, Hene, Pjetër Bogdani, Ejte, Sintonak.X, Dardanv, Beharprishtina, Hipi Zhdripi, Mig11, Petrit Augustini, and of course who can forget, Ilir_pz, all out of Kosovo.

Admittely, Sintonak.X and Beharprishtina, are not "in" Kosovo, they are in the United States and Switzerland, but then again I can't be blamed for them being incompetent and put themselves in that category. Anyways, so Priština, population estimated at 500,000, has, not one, not two, not three, but a total of four members on Wikipedia(notice how there's no Serbs). Amazing isn't it? So Vancouver, with a population of 2.1 million, basically that of Kosovo, can't have more than one person editing on article without it being suspected that the user is a sockpuppet. Also, Prizren, where Ilir_pz lives, is a mere 61 km from Priština, very close indeed for collaborating with his bretheren.

Winnipeg, has a population of over 700,000, and Brampton has one of 435,000. But since it's counted as being in the Greater Toronto Area, that would make the population 5.2 million. So three users out of a population of nearly 8.1 million in a first world country, spanning 3360km are accused of being sockpuppets. But then, four users of the same city in Kosovo, that may have one PC per every 1000 homes, are collaborating without incident. Plus another user, within driving distance of the others(or most likely, one other user). The rest of the users don't mention specific locations, but let's assume Priština because that seems to be popular these days, and we could also assume that based on Hipi Zhdripi, Hevnonen, Ejte, abilities of not being able to communicate in English, and having simliar grammar errors that they are the one and the same user. User Hipi Zhdripi is a known sockpuppet ( take a look at User: Zhdripi_Hipi and others). Both Hipi Zhdripi and Ejte can barely communicate in German and English and both have attempted to do so in my talk page. Similar incompetent spelling in two languages by two users in the same area with the same motives?

Unless all Albanians besides Ilir_pz are amazingly incompetent at speaking English, I can't find this random at all but done in a pre-mediated, and collaborated style and may "possibly" involve a larger group, such as the KLA, or even the government of Kosovo, who knows:P. But whoever it is, it's pathetic indeed.

Distances between Vancouver and Winnipeg, Canada and Winnipeg to Toronto, Canada

• 

  Distance from Priština to Prizren, Serbia and Montenegro

Proof that Kosovo is part of Serbia, even Microsoft says so.:)))) C-c-c-c 19:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Kosovo Liberation Army reverts

You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule on a page. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from further editing. -- ChrisO 20:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Why, I made two reverts, obviously I can do that, can't I? C-c-c-c 20:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I'd miscounted an earlier edit as being a revert. -- ChrisO 21:02, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem. C-c-c-c 21:02, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Sad

Oh very funny. I actually find the shows pretty good, though they get boring each time I watch them. Anyways, I'm going to update my userpage, big time. CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 23:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Funny, I didn't know Pokemon was known to be a comedy. C-c-c-c 23:25, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Ha,ha, you're a real comedian. Hey, don't call Telex a rampaging Hitler. It's his opinion. Also, I stopped playing RuneScape a long time ago. As I said, I will change my userpage. CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 23:34, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't watch soap operas and the teletubbies, you idiot. They are so stupid and pointless. Also, what gives you an idea that I act like and have a knowledge of a 12 year old. You don't have to tell me I need history lessons, because I know that I don't need 'em. Good for your English professor throwing you out the window head first for saying that. Anyways, YOU DESERVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 01:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, but Pokemon isn't I guess...haha. Maybe if you understand what I wrote you imbecile, there wouldn't be a big problem, idiot. You repeated the word "Albanian" five times within like one sentence, that's being redundant dumbass. That gives the idea you're 12 dummy. Any English professor would laugh at that, hell even a kindergarten teacher would laugh at that. Now I know why everyone thinks Montenegrins are imcompetent, here's evidence. C-c-c-c 01:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Now you pissed me off, you motherf***er. I'm not 12 and I'm not stupid. Don't change my signature, and don't call Montenegrins incompetent. I'm probably smarter than you, b**ch. Now leave me and my fellow Montenegrins in peace, since they're celebrating and do not, and i repat, do not, call them incompetent. CrnaGora (Talk/Contribs/E-mail/Edit Count) 02:08, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Ahem...INCOMPETENT.:))) C-c-c-c 02:11, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

By the way, what do you exactly "repat"? "All" celebrating? Funny, yes vote was 55.3%. Man do I ever hope civil war starts out hahaha....C-c-c-c 02:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

It is very wrong thing to say,because civil war would be amongst Serbs,because those so called "Montenegrians" know that they are Serbs......Wait and see,very soon,for a few years,they will beg Serbia to come back,Crna Gora cant live without Serbia,its one nation,one family CRNA GORA I SRBIJA TO JE JEDNA FAMILIJA.Crna Gora will have another referendum for a few years on witch 90 precent will vote for Unification with SrbijaDzoni

They probably will have civil war, it's going to funny. Montenegro will then ask Kosovo for Metohija, which it had before, and then it'll invade. The Americans come in, bomb the crap out of Montenegro, and then the Montenegrins will come to us and plead to help them out. It'll be interesting....C-c-c-c 02:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Haha,to me podseti na jednu pesmu : ЦРНА ГОРА ЗЕМЉА МАЛА БИЋЕ ГРОБЉЕ ЛИБЕРАЛАDzoni

lmao C-c-c-c 02:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

You guys really piss me off!!! Stop talking about my COUNTRY THAT WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!. Oh, that's it, I'm going to talk to an admin to have you blocked!!!!! Crna Gora ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edit Count)} 02:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Haha. Oh man CrnaGora...I can just see you now, red with rage, flinging your Pokemon cards everywhere:))) C-c-c-c 02:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

We were exchanging opinions, is that illegal CrnaGora? C-c-c-c 02:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Those weren't opinions, they were rather sentences to piss me off big time Crna Gora ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edit Count)} 22:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Am I to be blamed that my opinions pissed you off? C-c-c-c 22:15, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Znam da ti je teško, ali...

...nije lijepo napadat ljude onako kako ti to radiš. Previše si oštar i stvarno prelaziš svaku granicu.

Ono, znam u čemu je tvoj problem. Prvo ste popušili u ratu, onda su vas zgađali na Kosovu, a sad su vas i Crnogorci odjebali. To je isto kao da započneš tuču u birtiji protiv slabijih od sebe, ali te oni premlate, pa te putem doma premlati i policija, a kad stigneš doma, žena ti kaže da će se rastat od tebe.

Znam da ćeš sad napisat da sam Ustaša (pa Hrvat sam, a ti moraš nać neku uvredu bez puno truda), ali ćeš bit poprilično u krivu. Prije sam psiholog i vidim da imaš problema sa uvažavanjem ljudi sa drukčijim mišljenjem. Stani malo na loptu. Jakiša Tomić 00:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I dunno, look at CrnaGora, apparently he likes the idea of me "dying". Has anyone checked his criminal background? C-c-c-c 01:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

"Criminal background"? Ajde, molim te, dečko je u pubertetu gadno. Ja sam mu čestitao na neovisnosti iz pristojnosti jer mu je jako stalo do toga, ali me objektivno nervira stav Crnogoraca kao Srbi su nam dobri dok ide dobro, a kad krene lošije onda ćemo lagat o 85-godišnjem snu o otcjepljenju. Bez obzira na Miloševićevu i Šešeljevu politiku, meni je srpska politika puno čišća. Jakiša Tomić 07:56, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

prestani smesta, ne diraj mu stranicu. -- serbiana - talk 00:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

??? Jakiša Tomić 10:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Userpage Vandalism

Regarding your edits to User:CrnaGora:

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thank you.

Prodego ^talk 01:00, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

• *gasp*. I'll never ever do it, so long as I live!!!! C-c-c-c 01:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I've blocked you for 25 hours for 3rrv on the user page and personal attacks in the edit summaries. JoshuaZ 01:09, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I thought MCD comment was a compliment by the way. C-c-c-c 01:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Ouch, I felt that! --Telex 01:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

The truth is difficult sometimes, best to accept it. C-c-c-c 01:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed. I'm slowly getting to grips with the fact that Milošević has passed on :-( --Telex 01:15, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Funny, I still find that BBC report way back when on how Ibrahim Rugova was murdered by Serbs interesting. Too bad it was just the tar in his black lungs. C-c-c-c 01:18, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Are you from Kosovo? --Telex 01:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, will you kill me if I say yes? C-c-c-c 01:20, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Why would I - I have nothing to do with Kosovo (I've never even been there, although I'd like to). --Telex 01:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC) (the answer to your question is "no" btw)

Just noticed this conversation. I'd like you to go to Kosovo too. Please go. It's the perfect place for you. -- serbiana - talk 01:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know the way :-( --Telex 01:25, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Mhm fun fun. I'd like to visit some time, but I've heard rumours that price gouging is about the least of my worries when I get there. C-c-c-c 01:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed - I've heard it's a better place than Harrods to go shopping. --Telex 01:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Except everything seems to be manufactured by Wal-mart C-c-c-c 01:26, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Is Serbia a nice place? --Telex 01:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Haha never actually lived there. Well been in Belgrade, visiting family when I was small, but otherwise I have no memories  :( C-c-c-c 01:31, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

So you're from Belgrade, not (λέμε τώρα) Subotica? --Telex 01:32, 24 May 2006 (UTC) (this is a bona fide question)

What? You're confusing me with Boris. I'm not from Belgrade, I said the only time I ever was in what is Serbia right now, was when I was visiting family (when I was a baby). I've never lived in Serbia. I lived in Bosnia. C-c-c-c 01:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

So you're an ethnic Serb, Bosniak (Muslim) or Croat (or maybe Montenegrin)? --Telex 01:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Ethnic Serb. Lived in a mostly Muslim area, so we fled early on (still a toddler then). C-c-c-c 01:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

You seem to be able to speak (and presumably read and write) Serbo-Croatian fluently though. How's that? Do they have Serb schools in Canada? --Telex 01:42, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Well I can speak pretty good, the writing isn't the greatest but we had church organized lessons on Saturdays. In larger cities with bigger Serb populations, I think they're may even be private schools, (ie. Chicago, Toronto). I've been reading Serbian and Croatian Wiki to improve. Some thing you may have noted, since you speak a few languages, is that you like to use the one no one understands in public. Well this is basically what I use my Serbian for these days lol:P. And at home of course, but it's usually a mix with English. I also got my high school language credit for Serbian here which is good. C-c-c-c 01:44, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Kako si ti Srbin ako si živjeo u Bosnu i u Kanadu i ako nisi rođen u Srbiju? Crna Gora ^{(Talk/Contribs/Edit Count)} 22:11, 29 May 2006 (UTC) Do you need a translation of that in English? *laughing histerically* CrnaGora 22:12, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Umm...ever heard of the term "diaspora"? Considering the fact that 70% of Bosnian land was Serb before the war, I can rightly claim that I was born on Serb soil. :)))

P.S. Find a suitable spell checker, it's not "histerically", it's "hysterically".

P.S.S. Give up Pokemon and Digimon yet, or are you still deeply obsessed?:))

P.S.S.S. I also find funny, King Nikola was gifted with a fine physique and a commanding presence...really the meaning King Nikola, fattest man in Montenegro could devour pigs faster than the Ustasha could slaughter Serbs. I'm sure that title belonged to you some time, you seem to have "noble" (laughs) blood inside of you, Albanian and Montenegrin. (laughs again) C-c-c-c 22:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

This is a digrace

One of these days admins that so shamelessly block Serbs just because of their nationality may start getting blocked themselves,od as out people say NO CANDLE BURNS UNTIL DAWN(NICIJA NIJE DO ZORE GORELA) Dzoni 02:26, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Meh, don't worry Dzoni, I have homework I have to get to:P. C-c-c-c 02:47, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0:%D0%A2%D1%80%D0%B3/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%BE

No personal attacks

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. -- ChrisO 07:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Who is Hipi

Just Browsin a few things, who the hell is Hipi? and u p.s u do well wiv ur serb

What?:S C-c-c-c 21:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

You know, changing someone's user page without their consent is vandalism. No matter what is on it. C-c-c-c 00:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

You are not allowed to put personal attacks anywhere on wikipedia, including your userpage. It is innapropriate and against policy. --InShaneee 00:45, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

You aren't allowed to change it either. Please don't break the rules:-))). C-c-c-c 00:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Inshaneee is completely correct on this point - see Wikipedia:No personal attacks. That overrides any conventions (not rules) about user pages. I'd like to remind you (and Boris, whom I sure will see this) that personal attacks are a blockable offence. Please don't do it. -- ChrisO 00:48, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

How is that a personal attack anyways? I'm not calling him an idiot, or a dumbass, just stating the obvious. C-c-c-c 00:55, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Calling him a torturer and a murderer is a very plain and VERY serious personal attack. --InShaneee 01:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Echoing InShanee, and FYI, if anyone puts back that message, I will have no choice but to give them a long block. JoshuaZ 01:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

What, is this an admin conference or something? C-c-c-c 01:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

No, it's an admin dog pile. :-) Consider it an attempt to restore some civility to editing... -- ChrisO 01:41, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Ah, Wikipedia victimization at its finest. C-c-c-c 01:44, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey Josh, how long a block were ya talking about again? C-c-c-c 01:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

5... 4... 3... 2... 1......... Now just one hour left:)).

Just keep in mind that more edit warring and further incivility such as you showed in this edit summary] will not be tolerated, and will simply result in a longer block. --InShaneee 03:28, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Well would you also look at the facts provided by another User, Asterion, who found this exact information with verifiable sources (The UN I believe). Some members of the Wikipedia community have been disregarding evidence and claiming it to be Serb propaganda (ie. Ferick, Ilir_pz), even though they use the same sources when quoting more "appealing" facts and figures, and claim anyone who refutes these to be nationalist or hired by the Serb Propaganda Machine to spread the Greater Serbia ideology. C-c-c-c 03:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia's own rules, this seems legit.:P Thoughts? C-c-c-c 03:46, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

A lud si ko puška, majke mi moje mile. :)))))) Jakiša Tomić 18:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Well you know, at least I don't use one on people :)))) 05:28, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I've removed it again. This is not something that is negotiable, and if you try to post such libel again, you will be blocked without further warning. --InShaneee 18:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Then were else can I complain about just matters and avoid most of the punishment, but my own user talk page? Is it also illegal to show people the userbox in question? How can it be libel if it hasn't been proved false... Guess I'll just have to make flyers and them out. :))) C-c-c-c 22:06, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Threatening to defame wikipedia users off-site is yet another way to get blocked. Consider this your only warning. --InShaneee 23:00, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Regarding edits such as this: You have now been blocked for one week for trolling and other disruption. --InShaneee 23:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

In any case, you obviously haven't heard of the word sarcasm, but the likeliest scenario is that you have, it's just that you are one Huge Racist! If you want to prove me wrong about the latter, look at user Ferick, I have already presented evidence of his disruption at Wikipedia but it has been ignored for SOME reason, but I can't even make an opinion known on my own talk page. Unless you want that reason to be racism I suggest you look at his edits (mainly reverts of factual information). Here are his contributions, he made a personal block on me at UCPMB. Ferick also admitted to Chris0 that he would do anything, even break the rules, to get his POV across on Wikipedia, which is highly racist against Serbs and he sympathesizes with known terrorist organizations, always minimizing their actions and roles. Please be fair.C-c-c-c 01:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I've restarted your block, as calling other users racists is not acceptable. --InShaneee 18:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

But I guess being one is. C-c-c-c 21:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not exist to tell users how to act. And further abusive insinuations may result in an extension of your current block. --InShaneee 01:04, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Go away. C-c-c-c 01:36, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

It's hardly against policy to enforce policy, and if I continue to see that you have no intentions of working together with the community within the guideline of the site, your block can easily be extended. --InShaneee 19:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Mhm..is that a threat? C-c-c-c 19:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

No, but it is a warning. --InShaneee 20:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

NEMOJ NISTA DA BRIGAS,TU SAM JA,NIGDE NE IDEM

Indict

Mhm.....I wonder when Bush will get indicted.

Fun

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WP:SER (invite)

• I know that you said that you had no time for Wikiproject:Serbia, but you seem to have time to argue with Ilir and Hipi ;). It doesn't really take up much time, and wp:ser could always use more participants, and people wishing to contribute. I know you can. Regards, -- Krytan talk 17:16, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Hej Krytan! Bih hteo da pomognem vama sa WikiProjekt Srbija. Ja sa prije reko da nemam vreme dok škola se nezavrši. Ali kad mi blok prođe i ispite završim budem vama pomogao. Imam račun na srpskoj Vikipediji ali ga za sad malo koristim. Boris me pozvo da vama pomognem i tamo, i ako imam hijadu grešaka:P. Pozdrav, C-c-c-c 19:28, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Nema frke. Kad zavrsis ispite, tek onda. Nema veze ako pravis greske, moze i na englesku vikepidiju =)Pozdrav, -- Krytan talk 20:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Useful translation for admins

From an edit by the same user as the one here, there goes the translation:

"===Where are you Serbian brother=== Just that you know that now I use a different username, because the old one is blocked. I am the user who once told you "Montenegro a small land, will be a grave for liberals", but I could not tell you who I really am, just in case any Albanian (using derrogatory name here) reads this, and they block me again. So that is all, just that you know that this is my new nickname Jamal Curtis"

This was immediately removed by the user of this page. This is clearly a sockpuppetry, and meatpuppetry at the same time. ilir_pz 01:43, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Me Ilir? Anyways, didn't you forget you weren't welcome here?:)) Even better, before you accused of 3RR, but then realized you were wrong, then accused of sockpuppetry, reliazed you were wrong, then accused of meatpuppetry and I'm waiting to see you proved wrong again. Now you're accusing people of sockpuppetry and meatpuppetry with one account? At least it made "some" theoritical sense with more than user. P.S. Krytan's a funny guy don't ya think:))

A little note: Siptar is the Serb word for Albanian. It's also the Albanian word for Albanian. I find it odd that Albanians consider siptar offensive, even though they use it on themselves. Low self-esteem I assume and little pride, or little to be proud of :)) C-c-c-c 01:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Lmao Ilir, oh man you're making me laugh omg. C-c-c-c 01:58, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

So me, Krytan, Bormalagurski, Estavisti, Jamal Curtis are the same guy hey? Great detective work Ilir. C-c-c-c 02:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

I also find it funny how I'm (C-c-c-c) the sock of Jamal Curtis...since my account was created way before that one. Once again, I congratulate you on your brilliant detective work. Heil Ilir!! haha :)))) C-c-c-c 02:03, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Adios Wiki!

Will you ever leave me alone Shane? C-c-c-c 04:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Once you start following policy, I'll be more than happy to, believe me. --InShaneee 05:00, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Didn't know sarcasm was against the law, but I guess I should have expected it. C-c-c-c 05:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't enforce the law, I enforce the rules. And yes, ethnic slurs are against the rules. --InShaneee 05:04, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Interesting...nice to know others agree.:))) C-c-c-c 05:09, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Think whatever you want about me, but know that policy violations will not be tolerated. --InShaneee 23:07, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar, but I'm still not coming back to en wiki :-( Actually, from this point, I'll stop opening en wiki for a while, I might check my messages there and then. Once again, thanks :-) -- serbiana - talk 05:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Regarding this edit:

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. --InShaneee 18:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Vandal Burgas00, and rouge admin InShaneee

Thanks for the note you left on my talk page. I'll refrain from commenting on InShaneee's actions, but I agree that Burgas00's edits on your talk page were both an unacceptable personal attack, made after earlier requests to desist, and simple vandalism. On both grounds I've blocked him/her for 24 hours. Please let me know if there are any further incidents, and don't forget that you're subject to the same rules - don't let yourself be goaded into retaliation! -- ChrisO 23:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I'd suggest leaving InShaneee's comments where they are - see Help:Talk page#Etiquette for more advice on what to do with material on user talk pages. -- ChrisO 07:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Your contribution

Is only serbian propagander. Sorry my frend but you have nothing to do with Wikipedia

Oh Hipi, aren't you supposed to be blocked? Ah it never ends. :( C-c-c-c 21:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)